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Reviewer: MrLinkinPark333 (talk · contribs) 02:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I was keeping an eye on this nomination. As the previous review was deleted, I would like to review this article. Please note that I have not reviewed a F1 race before at GA, so I might make some mistakes. If there is any issues in regards to terminology/sourcing please let me know! It'll help me out if I choose to review F1 races in the future. If you have any comments/concerns, feel free to ping me here in this review. I'll be breaking this article up into sections as it's long and there's no way I can do it all in one session and not burn myself out.
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[edit]- "and he maintained it until his first pit stop on the 17th lap" -> "and he maintained it until his first pit stop on the 18th lap"
- Done MWright96 (talk) 21:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not sure if this would confuse people as the infobox says Rosberg held the lead from 1-17. I assume the only lap leads included are full laps?
- That is correct. MWright96 (talk) 21:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Rosberg retook it from his teammate Hamilton on lap 19 until kinetic motor–generator unit failures slowed both Mercedes from lap 35." - this sentence sounds like Rosberg lost the lead at lap 35, but that's not the case. He kept lead after the engine failures and lost the lead with his lap 44 pit stop. So I assume technically he had the lead until lap 43 with full laps.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 21:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, this contradicts Race paragraph 5, as the failures were from 37 to 38 according to the racing production. Therefore, Race P5 has to be adjusted with a source that shows these laps as well.
- See above response MWright96 (talk) 21:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "He retained it by responding to the pace of Force India's Sergio Pérez as a preventive measure to stop Pérez using his drag reduction system." - nope. This came after Massa pitted on lap 48, making this not relevant.
- The infobox says Rosberg did get the lead back at lap 48. With the racing production, it shows that Massa did enter the pits at the end of 48. So only laps 46-47 are counted for Massa?
- Yes, because the Williams garage at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve was located before the start/finish line. MWright96 (talk) 21:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Ricciardo's victory advanced him to third, demoting Fernando Alonso of Ferrari to fourth and Vettel was elevated to fifth." -> "Ricciardo's victory advanced him to third, demoted Fernando Alonso of Ferrari to fourth and elevated Vettel to fifth."
- "Ferrari, McLaren and Force India all maintained third to fifth" -> "Ferrari, Force India and McLaren all maintained third to fifth"
- Parts I think should be added to the paragraphs:
- Hamilton's lead from 44 to 45 and Massa's lead from lap 46 to 47. You could merge them in between Rosberg losing the lead at 43/44 and getting it back at 48.
- The accident on the final lap. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:41, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hamilton's lead from 44 to 45 and Massa's lead from lap 46 to 47. You could merge them in between Rosberg losing the lead at 43/44 and getting it back at 48.
Infobox
[edit]- In regards to F1 Racing, I'm not 100% sure if I have the right edition. I've downloaded a copy from GaleGroup, but this page range seems to have two separate articles. Fortune favours the brave by James Robert is from 136-137 while Canadian Grand Prix stats: the lowdown on everything you need to know from the weekend at Montreal is on page 138. Could you check whether this is indeed the same version as the one you have cited?
- Yes the print magazine has the same page numbers as the GaleGroup copy. MWright96 (talk) 20:56, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Source needed that states the track was a street circuit.
- Added. MWright96 (talk) 20:56, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- There's some mixed reviews on whether Bleacher Report is reliable or not. You might want to swap this source out just in case. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I see you replaced it with BBC. Works for me. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:16, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- There's some mixed reviews on whether Bleacher Report is reliable or not. You might want to swap this source out just in case. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added. MWright96 (talk) 20:56, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- 305.270 km rounded is 189.686 miles, not 187.700 if you're keeping the three decimal points (i think).
- Changed. MWright96 (talk) 20:56, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Farmer's Alamanc doesn't state it was "sunny and hot". Rest is verified.
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 20:56, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Side note question: what does the purple bar mean in the lap leaders section? Green/yellow are obvious,
- They are in different colours to denote the individual drivers; purple in this case is for Red Bull driver Daniel Ricciardo for the three laps he led. MWright96 (talk) 20:56, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- I see. I thought it was referring to the flag colours. I haven't seen a purple one before, so I thought it meant a purple flag lol! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- They are in different colours to denote the individual drivers; purple in this case is for Red Bull driver Daniel Ricciardo for the three laps he led. MWright96 (talk) 20:56, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "seventh of nineteen scheduled single seater races of the 2014 Formula One World Championship" - FIA doesn't state that there were 19 races in the season, nor that the races were single seaters. Extra source needed/new source needed as it does state it would be race 7.
- Done. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I see you verified 19 and dropped single seaters. Good compromise! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "It was held at the 14-turn 4.361 km (2.710 mi) Circuit Gilles Villeneuve" - all confirmed excepted 14 turns. Extra source needed.
- Removed 14-turn because of conflicting information I've come across. MWright96 (talk) 08:36, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Never mind strike that. Have found a source to back that claim up. MWright96 (talk) 08:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Removed 14-turn because of conflicting information I've come across. MWright96 (talk) 08:36, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Tyre supplier Pirelli brought the yellow-banded soft "prime" compound and the red-banded supersoft "option" compound tyres to the race" - page 138 (which is a different article titled Canadian Grand Prix Stats) doesn't say which one is prime or option. But F1 Racing does have soft/supersoft and the colors.
- Added another source to verify the information. MWright96 (talk) 06:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added FIA regs source. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Now this one is a problem. FIA does have prime/option, and F1 Racing does have red/yellow and supersoft/soft. But, FIA doesn't specify which colors are prime/option nor which one is soft or supersoft. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added another source. MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. But this source doesn't have "prime" or "option". As it's similar to F1 Racing (confirming that yellow soft and red supersoft would be used), you could drop "prime/option" and remove the FIA source, or switch one of these sources that confirms yellow soft is prime, and red supersoft is optional. With the sources, it doesn't connect which color is prime and which one is optional. So, I don't mind whether you choose to find one that verifies or drop the unverifed parts.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:49, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded to omit "prime" and "option" and removed the FIA regs source. MWright96 (talk) 08:00, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. But this source doesn't have "prime" or "option". As it's similar to F1 Racing (confirming that yellow soft and red supersoft would be used), you could drop "prime/option" and remove the FIA source, or switch one of these sources that confirms yellow soft is prime, and red supersoft is optional. With the sources, it doesn't connect which color is prime and which one is optional. So, I don't mind whether you choose to find one that verifies or drop the unverifed parts.
- Added another source. MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Now this one is a problem. FIA does have prime/option, and F1 Racing does have red/yellow and supersoft/soft. But, FIA doesn't specify which colors are prime/option nor which one is soft or supersoft. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about if Pirelli "brought" the tires to the race, more like they were the sponsor of the tires.
- Pirelli are the manufacturer and the one who shipped tyres to the races. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Your addition of the FIA regulations does clear up if they brought it per allocation. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, F1 Racing said green banded intermediate tires and blue banded wet tires were used as well.
- The source actually has them darkened to tell readers that they were brought to the race and were not used at all. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. Fair enough. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- The source actually has them darkened to tell readers that they were brought to the race and were not used at all. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Pirelli are the manufacturer and the one who shipped tyres to the races. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Casino Straight linking turns 11 and 12" - NBC Sports calls it a main straight, not Casino straight.
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "and the second was on the straight between the final and first corners." - the second straight was from turn thirteen to turn one. As the track has fourteen turns, thirteen wouldn't be the final turn.
- Changed wording. MWright96 (talk) 06:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- It should be 13th and first corners, not 14th --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- It should be 13th and first corners, not 14th --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed wording. MWright96 (talk) 06:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- "gravel to the left of the L'Epingle hairpin and turn 13" - FIA doesn't give the unique name of L'Epingle hairpin, just turn 10.
- Changed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, FIA isn't specific if it was left/right, just that it was away from it. Same with the turn 13 barrier not mentioning left.
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I see "left" mentioned in the turn 10 spot that needs removal. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Replaced with outside per FIA source MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Replaced with outside per FIA source MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- I see "left" mentioned in the turn 10 spot that needs removal. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "After winning the Monaco Grand Prix two weeks earlier," - FIA points breakdown doesn't have when Monaco was held.
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "was seven points behind him in the battle for the position." - I recommend using another word for "battle" for neturality.
- Dropped. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "and Red Bull were second with 99 points" -> and Red Bull was second with 99 points
- Changed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Ferrari (78 points) and Force India (67 points)" - I recommend removing the brackets for flow purposes while making sure it sounds right grammatically.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:22, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Now I realize this sounds odd with "and" multiple times. I think McClaren should be a separate sentence. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:41, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. I know it's a minor point.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Now I realize this sounds odd with "and" multiple times. I think McClaren should be a separate sentence. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:41, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Rosberg regained the Drivers' Championship lead with a win at Monaco;" - Guardian says Rosberg's win had Hamilton lose the number one spot for the championship, but doesn't state Rosberg had already led the championship once before Monaco.
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "after the latter suspected Rosberg had wilfully went off the track in qualifying to prevent him taking pole position." - While Guardian does say Hamilton felt Rosberg prevented him from taking pole position, it doesn't mention Rosberg going off the track deliberately.
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I should have been specific. The Guardian also doesn't mention any event of going off the track in qualifying at all. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:09, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- I should have been specific. The Guardian also doesn't mention any event of going off the track in qualifying at all. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:09, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Both drivers spoke to each other four days before the event" - "four days" is a bit too much detailed and not confirmed. Although it does say it happened Wednesday, Guardian doesn't say the race would be held Sunday. So I suggest dropping "four days" only.
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "acknowledged contact between him and Hamilton would harm his team's interests" - yes, but this isn't related to the quoted part. That part comes before "It's a tiny bit more caution" further down the page, so I recoomend just removing this part as it's not related.
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- The quote isn't about their contact between each other. It's about their friendship/relationship with each other per "Asked if he was still surprised to hear Hamilton describe them as 'friends'" part. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:13, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Nice rewording! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:19, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- The quote isn't about their contact between each other. It's about their friendship/relationship with each other per "Asked if he was still surprised to hear Hamilton describe them as 'friends'" part. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:13, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- "and was un-surprised tensions emerged early in the season," - sorta. The previous tensions were about their previous relationship while they were karting together. But this appears before the "I didn't see it as too unusual," quote, which isn't part of the "We're fighting every single race weekend" part. So this part should be removed as well.
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Hamilton had won in Canada three times (in 2007, 2010 and 2012)" - I suggest rewriting this part to avoid the brackets.
- "Renault and Ferrari would have to have done an exceptional job" - Almost. The Montreal Gazette quote says "“Renault (Red Bull’s power-plant supplier) and Ferrari would have to have done an exceptional job" with the brackets included in this case.
- Added brackets. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "In technical developments, Mercedes installed fins and turning vanes...less drag to the inside of the front wheel." - I suggest two sentences for grammar.
- Done. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "front wishbone on its lower front suspension" -> "lower front wishbone on its front suspension"
- "Toro Rosso manufactured new exhaust systems" - close paraphrasing. If "manufactured" was reworded, this'll pass limited wording as the rest can't be changed.
- Changed to built. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "systems for their two STR9s following the development of fractures" - Autosport isn't specific on the type of cars for Toro Russo. Rest of the sentence is confirmed.
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Williams mounted a duct over the top of its brake discs" - yep, and this is specifically for their FW36. As you've mentioned the specifc engines before for other manufactuers, I think this one should be added too for consistency.
- "and featured longer sidepods to better cool the F14 T and removed downforce." - this needs a grammar tweak as it has "and" twice.
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "McLaren used a rear suspension element to improve the diffuser's performance." - McLaren didn't improve the diffuser's performance. They used one rear suspension blocker instead of two in the practice.
- per the Williams suggestion, I suggestion stating McLaren used it for the MP4-29.
- per the Williams suggestion, I suggestion stating McLaren used it for the MP4-29.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:23, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed wording. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "McLaren used a rear suspension blocker to replace some downforce lost and include drag on the MP4-29 with the lower rear wing's removal" - I think the "and include drag" is out of sequence. McLaren didn't use the blocker to include drag, the blocker replaces downforce at the cost of including drag. So i think "and include drag" needs to be put at the end of the sentence and reworded a bit. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:03, 10 January 2020 (UTC){{tick}
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Funny I was going to suggest wording as "at the cost of including drag" but you read my mind LOL! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:15, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "McLaren used a rear suspension blocker to replace some downforce lost and include drag on the MP4-29 with the lower rear wing's removal" - I think the "and include drag" is out of sequence. McLaren didn't use the blocker to include drag, the blocker replaces downforce at the cost of including drag. So i think "and include drag" needs to be put at the end of the sentence and reworded a bit. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:03, 10 January 2020 (UTC){{tick}
- Changed wording. MWright96 (talk) 08:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "two 90-minute sessions on Friday and another 60-minute session on Saturday" - either citation needed to verified the days or they need to be dropped as the regulations don't specify.
- Used FIA preview source MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "In the first practice session...ahead of the Mercedes duo of Hamilton and Rosberg." - very long. I suggest two sentences.
- "Valtteri Bottas' Williams." - slight reword needed to avoid word for word copy.
- "the second Ferrari of Kimi Räikkönen" -> the second Ferrari driver Kimi Räikkönen
- Changed to "Ferrari driver Kimi Räikkönen" MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- That works as well! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:02, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed to "Ferrari driver Kimi Räikkönen" MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "During the session, where several drivers went off the circuit" -> During the session, several drivers went off the circuit"
- "because of a low amount of grip from not getting the optimum tyre temperature," - "because of a low amount of grip and not getting the optimum tyre temperature."
- "Jules Bianchi damaged the right-front track rod on his Marussia from contact against a wall at the exit of turn four." - Autosport's did not specify it was right-front, just right side. As for the wall it was indeed at turn four, but there's no mention it was at the exit.
- Change per source MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- The exit part needs to be dropped as well. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:04, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- The exit part needs to be dropped as well. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:04, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Change per source MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Hülkenberg spun by putting one of his car's wheels in the grass at the turn eight chicane." - Autosport says wheels so "one of" can be dropped to make it plural.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "spun by putting a wheel" -> spun by putting his wheels --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:04, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- I also see in Autosport that Massa had to withdraw during the session due to a battery probleme. Sky Sports also briefly mentioned it as a ERS problem. I think this should be added as multiple cites are mentioning it.
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[edit]- "Sfter the session, Ricciardo was summoned to the steward's office...at the conclusion of practice." - I suggest two sentences as it's a bit wordy.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Ricciardo was summoned to the steward's office" -> "Ricciardo was summoned by the stewards" (as there's no mention of an office). Minor point.
- Pit Lane is capitalized in the ESPN quote.
- Other sources I look online use either Pit Lane as Capitalized or not at all. MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- That's strange with the inconsistency. If you want to keep the lowercase pit lane, I suggest either summarizing the source to avoid the quote, or swapping the source with one that has lowercase letters. Whichever is easier for you. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded to avoid using quotes MWright96 (talk) 08:00, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Looks better. As it's long, I suggest merging some of it with the "summoned by the stewards" sentence to help balance the sentence flow as the previous sentence is super short. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:36, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded to avoid using quotes MWright96 (talk) 08:00, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- That's strange with the inconsistency. If you want to keep the lowercase pit lane, I suggest either summarizing the source to avoid the quote, or swapping the source with one that has lowercase letters. Whichever is easier for you. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Other sources I look online use either Pit Lane as Capitalized or not at all. MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Autosport also mentions Kvyat having to withdraw early because of a fuel leak. It also mentions Ericsson stopping at the chicane but doesn't state why. Of the two, I think Kvyat would be important to mention.
- "Bianchi was restricted to three out-laps because of an engine problem that led to an overnight change of engine." - I'm not sure if out laps is the same as "slow laps"
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, it was multiple engine problems, not just one.
- Changed for accuracy MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Finally, the new engine was going to be installed when the Autosport source was written, it hadn't been at the time. So "that led to" should be "that would require".
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:20, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Hamilton used the soft compound tyres" - not in the June 7th source BBC source.
- Used another source MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Source also does not have Hamilton's time. However, clicking on the Canadian Grand Prix practice results link on the bottom gives
an archived source which does confirm it. You can cite this one or another source to verify it.
- See above reply MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Massa was faster than on Friday" - not true per the above link. Plus I don't think this is needed as previous comparisons of drivers' qualifying performances were not mentioned. However, Massa was indeed second so his placing is fine.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "ahead of the second Mercedes of Rosberg in third" -> "ahead of the second Mercedes driver, Rosberg, in third"
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Bottas, Daniil Kvyat, Vergne and Vettel were in positions six to ten." -> "Bottas, Daniil Kvyat, Vergne and Vettel were in positions seven to ten."
- "The session was red flagged after 15 minutes after Esteban Gutiérrez" -> "The session was red flagged 15 minutes after Esteban Gutiérrez"
- Reworded a little differently MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "turn three and four chicane, and struck an outside barrier at its exit, causing extensive damage to his car's left-rear corner." - comma spice. I suggest breaking it up into two sentences.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "lost control of the rear of his Sauber under braking" - close paraphrasing of the two sources that need a slight tweak to pass close paraphrasing. Specifcally "lost control" and "under braking"
Note: see below
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- "had a loss of control at the rear of his Sauber in the act of braking" - unfortunately, this sounds wordy now because I had you reword per above. If this could be trimmed down a bit, it'd help. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:52, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Further changes to the sentence have been made. MWright96 (talk) 08:00, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- "had a loss of control at the rear of his Sauber braking" -> "had a loss of control of his Sauber's rear braking" --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:49, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "causing extensive damage to his car's left-rear corner" -> "causing damage to his car's left-rear"
- "and he would miss qualifying because the team's spare chassis had to be constructed for the race on Sunday." -> Gutiérrez would miss qualifying because the team's spare chassis had to be constructed for the race on Sunday.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:54, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Saturday afternoon's qualifying session was divided into three parts." - source needed to show they were on Saturday.
- Used FIA preview source MWright96 (talk) 21:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- "The first part ran for 18 minutes, eliminating cars that finished the session 17th or below." - Yes. However, a source needs to be added to show that there were 22 drivers instead of the usual 24 drivers. Then the subsequent eliminations would make sense per FIA regulations.
- The 2014 F1 Sporting Regulations source mentions this on Page 26 in Article 33.1 (c) MWright96 (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, but a source is needed to show 22 drivers were for this specific qualification alongside the FIA source. Therefore, the subsequent calculations that the FIA regulations has (eliminating 6 racers in Q1 and Q2) can be worked out. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:00, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added a source from F1 Fanatic MWright96 (talk) 20:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, but a source is needed to show 22 drivers were for this specific qualification alongside the FIA source. Therefore, the subsequent calculations that the FIA regulations has (eliminating 6 racers in Q1 and Q2) can be worked out. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:00, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "The 107% rule was in effect, requiring drivers to reach a time within 107% of the quickest lap to qualify" - I don't see this mentioned in FIA.
- The information about the 107% rule can be found on Page 27 of the 2014 F1 Sporting Regulations. Specially it is listed under Article 36.1 on that page. MWright96 (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. It was on page 29 which you cited. I thought it'd be with the free practice parts. Thanks for pointing where it was. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:00, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- The information about the 107% rule can be found on Page 27 of the 2014 F1 Sporting Regulations. Specially it is listed under Article 36.1 on that page. MWright96 (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- The 2014 F1 Sporting Regulations source mentions this on Page 26 in Article 33.1 (c) MWright96 (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Up to you if you want to mention how many minutes the third session was as the article mentions how long both Q1 and Q2 were.
- "The final session determined pole position to tenth." - FIA doesn't have Q3 determining the positions, just that the ten drivers would be in Q3.
- The F1 Fanatic source I have added should rectify this MWright96 (talk) 20:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Cars who progressed to the final session were not allowed to change tyres for the race's start, using the tyres with which they set their quickest lap times in the second session." - I don't see this mentioned in FIA.
- It is located on Page 17 of the 2014 F1 Sporting Regulations, specially Article 25.4 (e) } MWright96 (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- LOL i was looking at page 19, not 17. But i see you cited 17. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:17, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- It is located on Page 17 of the 2014 F1 Sporting Regulations, specially Article 25.4 (e) } MWright96 (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- "The weather conditions were sunny and hot" - no mention of "and hot" in Associated Press, so I suggest dropping this minor point.
- "Hamilton who was 0.079 seconds slower after driver errors at turns six and eight and slower traffic delayed him" - no mention of "driver errors at turns six and eight". Rest of the sentence is verified.
- Used F1 Qualifying Quotes source MWright96 (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- As The Advertiser source doesn't state third session at "Rosberg paced the third session" but Autosport does, I suggest citation bundling of these two adjacent sources after "and slower traffic delayed him".
- "Vettel adjusted his driving style to take more risks and qualified third." - I don't see any adjustment of driving style nor taking risks in Sky Sports.
- Used F1 post-qualifying quotes source MWright96 (talk) 21:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Bottas in the faster Williams car could not improve his best time due to traffic that compromised his front tyre warming, restricting him to fourth" - Crash doesn't have Bottas trying to improve his best time.
- I suggest rewording "compromised" and "restricted" for neturality.
- Removed in a rewrite of the sentence MWright96 (talk) 21:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- I suggest rewording "compromised" and "restricted" for neturality.
- "His teammate Massa had a fluctuating front-left brake temperature" - I don't think it was "fluctuating" so I suggest removing this specific word only.
- Removed and rewritten the sentence MWright96 (talk) 21:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Sixth-placed Ricciardo lost time by going too quickly on the super soft compound tyre." - Sorta. I think he was losing control of the super soft compound tyres while trying to recover the lost time.
Note: - see below
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 21:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:08, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- I think this needs additional rewording, but I'll come back to this later. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded to something entirely different. MWright96 (talk) 06:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- I think this needs additional rewording, but I'll come back to this later. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- In that case: "Ricciardo in sixth began was beaten in qualifying by his teammate Vettel for the second time in 2014" -> "Ricciardo in sixth was beaten in qualifying by his teammate Vettel for the second time in 2014"
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:19, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Extra sources
[edit]- Just in case you haven't seen, I left a copy about an optional point (stating how long Q3 was), and point about final ten racers in Q3 determining the race positions. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:00, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "His fastest time of 1 minute and 16.300 seconds was 1.246 seconds slower than Hamilton in the second session." - I don't think comparing Hulkenberg's Q2 time to Hamilton is necessary, considering Hamilton was 2nd. Plus, Hulkenberg didn't race in Q3, making this out of scope. I recommend removing this quoted part only, while keeping that Hulkenberg was the fastest qualifier outside of the top ten.
- "and the second Force India of Sergio Pérez" -> and "Hulkenberg's teammate Sergio Pérez" (or a similar rewording).
- "Romain Grosjean could not better his lap because he crossed the start/finish line one second after the second session ended" - no mention of this quoted part in F1. Only part confirmed is placing.
- Used F1 post-qualifying quotes source MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Based on Permane's quote, he doesn't say Grosjean finished one second after the session ended, but that Grosjean missed the chance to begin another lap after he finished one second late. A slight reword might be needed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:48, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Rewritten MWright96 (talk) 08:00, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Based on Permane's quote, he doesn't say Grosjean finished one second after the session ended, but that Grosjean missed the chance to begin another lap after he finished one second late. A slight reword might be needed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:48, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Used F1 post-qualifying quotes source MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Brake and handling difficulties left Kvyat in 15th position" - Similarily, braking/handling difficulties not verified in F1, but placing is.
- See above reply MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Maldonado failed to advance beyond the first session as a turbocharger intake problem prompted his engineer to ask the former to stop his car at the exit of turn three and was prevented from improving his lap on his final attempt" - This is a bit wordy and a run on. I suggest trimming and two sentences please.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Maldoando had a power problem, but not specific it was turbocharger intake.
- Used the F1 Fanatic source on the issue MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- His engineers asked him to stop the car, not just one. So engineer needs pluarizing.
- Maldonando stopped his car at the exit of Turn three, but his engineers didn't ask him to stop there specifically. He stopped at the exit of turn three after his engineers asked him to stop the car.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think Maldonando was prevented from improving his lap on his last attempt, but you're close. He couldn't complete his final lap because he was requested to stop.
- If possible, could you see if you could find what "separate incidents" required Chilton to use his first lap attempt? To me, it sounds incomplete with it. As Autosport doesn't specify what happens, this is an optional point. If you can't find any info on it, you can leave it alone.
- Added MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "because qualifying was temporarily stopped for an accident in the first session" -> "because qualifying was stopped for an accident in the first session" --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:48, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- "because qualifying was temporarily stopped for an accident in the first session" -> "because qualifying was stopped for an accident in the first session" --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:48, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- " Kobayashi's balance on his Caterham was improved and went faster on his final attempt to take 20th" -> "Kobayashi had an improved balance on his Caterham and went faster on his final attempt to take 20th" (as the balance itself didn't make him faster).
Note: see below.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Minor spelling issue: Kobayashi's had an improved balance" -> Kobayashi had an improved balance
- Minor spelling issue: Kobayashi's had an improved balance" -> Kobayashi had an improved balance
- Done MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "with a crash at the exit of the turn eight and nine chicane" - Autosport doesn't give the location of this chicane, only that it was the "first" one.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "he failed to reattach his steering wheel" - little bit of rewording needed to avoid close paraphrasing with "failed" and "reattach"
- Rewritten MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Formula One Sporting Regulations at the exit of turn three" - "Formula One regulations at the exit of turn three" (minor point)
- "Gutiérrez was allowed to start the race by the stewards who judged him capable to compete at a sufficient pace based on his free practice times." - similiar rephrasing needed as per the Qualifying classification note.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "for meeting pace requirements in practice" -> "for meeting time requirements in practice" (or something similar) as I think pace/time are not the same.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- "for meeting pace requirements in practice" -> "for meeting time requirements in practice" (or something similar) as I think pace/time are not the same.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "He was later ordered to begin from the pit lane" - maybe "ordered" should be reworded to a less loaded word.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 13:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Sauber changed the gearbox and the survival cell of his car as a result of his third practice accident" -> "Sauber changed the gearbox and the chassis of his car as a result of his final practice accident" --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- I'm not sure the policy for flags in F1 articles, so I'm leaving this here for now while I check.
- As you've put a source for the flags in the racing classification, I don't think it'd be necessary for this part as it'd be citation overkill. If you do want to add it, feel free to. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:32, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Both Vergne and Kvyat's team were listed as STR-Renault, not the fuller name Toro Rosso-Renault. I suggest either using the abbreviated version with the F1 source or adding another source that gives Toro Rosso-Renault as the constructor for both drivers.
- F1 Fanatic does say Kobayashi was penalized due to the gearbox change, but isn't specific that this was "unscheduled".
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 09:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Esteban Gutiérrez did not take part in qualifying" - The Autosport ref was written before the Grand Prix started, so qualifying hadn't happen then. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:10, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- "sustained to his car during the third practice session in time." - "sustained" is an unique word that I suggest changing to pass limited wording.
- Changed. MWright96 (talk) 09:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, Autosport doesn't specify the Saturday morning session was the third session. You could either swap wording or add a source. Whichever is easier.
- Swapped the wording. MWright96 (talk) 09:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- "sustained to his car during the third practice session in time." - "sustained" is an unique word that I suggest changing to pass limited wording.
- The FIA decision I'm in a bit of a conundrum over. I don't doubt the page itself, but I do with the website (IP address). I've looked it up and it doesn't give me any connections to F1. I've tried searching the document on FIA but no luck. I suggest swapping this with a new source.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:10, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- I've found that the link for this is on the FIA website but it goes to the IP address for an unknown reason – FIA Event and Timing Information MWright96 (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Well then! I think that IP address is the hosting server for FIA back then. As that link is pointing to the IP address one, it might be better to link the FIA site, and keep the ref name FIA Stewards Decision - Document No. 24. Cause without it, the IP address alone doesn't vouch that it belonged to FIA at the time. Good find! Why did I find it LOL --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:39, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, the decision doesn't mention the 107% limit nor that he was capable of lapping, just that Gutiérrez had set decent practice times.
Note: see below
- Removed. MWright96 (talk) 09:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- I've found that the link for this is on the FIA website but it goes to the IP address for an unknown reason – FIA Event and Timing Information MWright96 (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Gutiérrez was further penalised...during free practice." - Racing Fanatic doesn't list this as a penatly, nor was this a "further" penalty.
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 09:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- "his car's gearbox and a survival cell were changed as a result of his accident during free practice." - his chassis was changed, not survival cell.
- Clarified. MWright96 (talk) 09:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, Racing Fanatic has it as final practice, not free practice.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed. MWright96 (talk) 09:04, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "who deemed him capable of lapping decently based on his free practice time" - the "deemed him capable of lapping decently" isn't verified, just the free practice time.
Note: see below.
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, it's not specificed which type of practice. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:10, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- There's a couple of points as well from before in the upper section that you might have missed. I've tagged them with my username/date. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:13, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- "*"who deemed him capable of lapping sufficiently in practice" - "capable" doesn't sound like the right word as it suggests that he was able to do something. The stewards focused on his lapping sufficiently, not his ability. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:53, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed wording. MWright96 (talk) 21:00, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstood what I meant so I'll be more specific. The stewards noted that his times were sufficient in the race. The "deemed him able" part needs to be removed as the steward does not mention it. Yes it's a moot point. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:21, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 21:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. I know it seems silly going over and over again this point. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 21:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstood what I meant so I'll be more specific. The stewards noted that his times were sufficient in the race. The "deemed him able" part needs to be removed as the steward does not mention it. Yes it's a moot point. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:21, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed wording. MWright96 (talk) 21:00, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Esteban Gutiérrez did not take part in qualifying" -> Esteban Gutiérrez would not take part in qualifying (as the event hadn't happen yet).
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:17, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed MWright96 (talk) 21:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- As the stewards decision does state he didn't appear in qualifying, you could citation bundle these two points. Otherwise, this will still be a check. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed MWright96 (talk) 21:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Weather conditions at the start were hot and clear." - I don't see hot nor clear in F1 Racing nor Motorsport Total. The closest I see is sunny with both sources.
- Changed MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, neither source said they were at the "start" of the race, just the race.
- "forecasts expected the weather to remain consistent" - this seems out of place as you've already mentioned what weather did happen at the race before stating forecasted weather. Because of this, it might be better to bump this to the first sentence and rewording based on what the forecast for Sunday was listed as in the Motor Authority source.
- Moved and rewritten MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "All drivers in the top ten began on the soft compound tyres." - supersoft, not soft.
- Corrected MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, "All drivers in the top ten" would need a slight reword to avoid word for word copy and satisfy limited wording.
- "When the race commenced from its standing start at 14:00 Eastern Daylight Time (UTC−04:00)" - no mention of standing start or EDT in FIA preview
- Changed to "local time" MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Hamilton made a faster getaway than his teammate Rosberg." - what do you mean by getaway?
- The latter locked his brakes entering the first corner" - Autosport play-by-play confirms most of it except locking the "brakes".
- "and oversteered into the side of his teammate Bianchi's car." - Chilton did oversteer, but Sunday Telegraph does not specify which part of Bianchi's car he hit.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "He spun into a right-hand side barrier beside the track" - Motor Sport doesn't specify right-hand side.
- "since track marshals were needed to clear oil and debris laid on the circuit" - True, but as Autosport doesn't say that the oil was cleaned up, you might want to citation bundle with Telegraph as it mentions cleanup of oil.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:25, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Extra item that's won't effect the GA review
[edit]- I've located a copy of the race on Internet Archive. For some points I'm not sure about, I'll be consulting it and referencing it if I don't think the prose is exactly correct. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:40, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "was slower by about 10 km/h (6.2 mph) on the straights and Hamilton duelled him." - only one straight was mentioned, not 2, making it singular.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, Motorsport magazine has this for lap eight as well and has no mention of dueling.
- "to the turn 13 and 14 chicane for tenth" - BBC doesn't specify which turns the chicane was at, just that it was the last one.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Still see this issue. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:16, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Still see this issue. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:16, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "prompted his retirement in the pit lane to prevent engine damage." - Ericsson didn't retire in the pit lane based on his and Staudohar's quotes in ESPN. The rest of the sentence is right.
- Added source to verify this MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, extra source needed to verify when Ericsson retired from the race. From the racing production, he went into the pit in 9. So it was the next lap, not "That lap".
- "Kvyat oversteered and spun at turn one from 15th on the tenth lap;" - Neither Autosport / Telegraph state Kyvat was 15th when he oversteered. Racing production doesn't help either as he shows his new position of 26th and that he was 16th on lap 9.
- "On the same lap, Hamilton was fast out of the L'Epingle hairpin" - Not sure if "good exit" is the same as fast. Also, BBC just mentions it as hairpin, not L'Epingle hairpin.
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "into the turn 13 and 14 chicane to retake second" -> "into the last chicane to retake second" (similar issue as above)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "whom he could not pass due to a slower pace on the straights." - straight (singular).
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "in an attempt by Red Bull to move past both of the Williams drivers" - While Ricciardo did make a pit stop at the end of lap 13, Motorsport Magazine doesn't state it was Red Bull's idea. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:27, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded to say it was Ricciardo's attempt instead MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Williams responded by calling Bottas into the pit lane for the soft compound tyres on the next lap and same was undertaken with his teammate Massa on the 15th lap" - Guardian doesn't verify any of this. With Motorsport, it does say Bottas went to the pits then Massa the lap after, but doesn't given specific lap numbers nor that they went for soft tyres.
- Added source to verify this MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Nice find with the GPUpdate source! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Racing production shows Bottas went into the pit at lap 15 and Massa was lap 16th. So this is a slight bit inaccurate. No help with whether Williams went for soft tyres as well unfortunately.
- See above reply MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added source to verify this MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "A faulty front-left wheel gun failure dropped Massa to 13th" - not verifed by BBC Sport.
Note: see below.
- Added verification MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Bit of problems with the sources. As GPUpdate previously determined that Massa pitted at lap 16, then the front-left wheel gun failure should have happened then too. Guardian mentions this happened at the pitstops but not a specific lap. As for Motorsport, it's pointing to the wrong lap. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:53, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Have removed because sources are proving highly problematic in verifying all of this point. MWright96 (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Fair enough. If you happen to find sources that don't contradict each other for this point, please let me know. I've learnt with this review that even reliable sources contradict each other, especially with lap numbers :( --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:46, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Have removed because sources are proving highly problematic in verifying all of this point. MWright96 (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Bit of problems with the sources. As GPUpdate previously determined that Massa pitted at lap 16, then the front-left wheel gun failure should have happened then too. Guardian mentions this happened at the pitstops but not a specific lap. As for Motorsport, it's pointing to the wrong lap. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:53, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added verification MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Vettel was about five seconds behind Hamilton by his own pit stop on the lap for the soft compound tyres." - six seconds, not five. Also, not verified whether soft compound tyres are the "prime" tires.
- "Alonso made a pit stop and his higher speed moved him past Vergne" - yep. I think you should add it was for 7th place.
- "Rosberg was more than two seconds ahead of Hamilton when he entered the pit lane one lap later." - Neither BBC Sport nor Sunday Telegraph state Rosberg pitted around this time. The racing production shows he came into pits at the end of lap eighteen, making it two laps later, not one.
Note: see below section
- "He clipped a kerb on the inside of turn four" - yep, but it was on lap nineteen, a lap after his pit stop. So this came after Hamilton took the lead and before Hamilton went to pit.
Note: see below section
- "yet-to-stop Force India cars of Pérez and Hülkenberg" - close paraphrasing. I suggest rewording "yet-to-stop" only.
- "Kvyat illegally drove across the turn 13 and 14 run-off area" -> "Kvyat illegally drove across the last run-off area"
- "Maldonado retired with a loss of engine power on the following lap." - ESPN doesn't have a specific lap for Maldonado's retirement.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:29, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added source to verify this MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]After double checking the prose from Massa pit stop onwards, I've noticed a few things:
- "On the 16th lap, Alonso made a pit stop" - It was the 17th lap, not 16th per racing production. Therefore, sources need to be adjusted to reflect that.
- "Rosberg was more than two seconds ahead of Hamilton when he entered the pit lane two laps later" - Neither BBC/Telegraph specifically state Rosberg pitted.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:54, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, as Rosberg pitted at the end of 18, it's one lap after Alonso, not two.
- Alternativelly, Rosberg clipping the kerb at 19 should be bumped after Rosberg's taking back the lead at 19.
- "Hamilton took the lead on lap 18 and maintained it before his own pit stop" - as you've mentioned that Hamilton pitted at 19 in the lead paragraphs, I think it should be mentioned as well he pitted at 19, while finding a source that does exactly say that. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:02, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:54, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Minor spelling issue with Rosberg being spelt Rosberh with the kerb incidient at lap 19. Makes sense since G and H are next to each other ;)
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:31, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "During the 23rd lap, a loss of rear car control put Vettel wide during an attempted pass on Hülkenberg for fourth at the L'Epingle hairpin" - not mentioned by Motor Sport.
Note: see below.
- Added additional verification MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- The only part I don't see after your additional source is that Hulkenberg was fourth at the time of the attempted pass by Vettel. Rest is good.
- The only part I don't see after your additional source is that Hulkenberg was fourth at the time of the attempted pass by Vettel. Rest is good.
- Added additional verification MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- "On lap 24, a rear suspension failure caused Kobayashi to retire at the exit of Virage Senna turn." - ESPN doesn't state the turn name nor where Kobayashi exited. To me, the turn name is too much detail as well.
- "As Hamilton slipstreamed Rosberg on the Casino Straight a lap later," -> As Hamilton slipstreamed Rosberg on the main straight a lap later,"
- "his teammate locked his tyres by braking too late and cut the turn 13 and 14 chicane" - not mentioned by Motor Sport.
- Used other sources MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Hamilton's race engineer Peter Bonnington advised him to be conservative" - no mention of Bonnington's name in either source, just position name "Race engineer".
- However, I do see Bonnington quoted in F1 Racing (under the name Pete, not Peter, even though Google gives me both first names) about not taking risks. So, if you want to connect it specifically to Bonnington, you could swap the source out.
Note: see below.
- Pete, not Peter per F1 Racing.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:27, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Alternatively, i don't think "conservative" is the right word here as another way to say to not take risks.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- However, I do see Bonnington quoted in F1 Racing (under the name Pete, not Peter, even though Google gives me both first names) about not taking risks. So, if you want to connect it specifically to Bonnington, you could swap the source out.
- "He was less than a second behind by the same lap and could use DRS" - Neither F1 Racing or Autosport mention this happened at lap 25. The only lap 25 event was Rosberg cutting the kerb.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, "could use DRS" sounds a bit off. If you mean something like "had DRS available" then yes. Otherwise "could use" sounds like he needed it, not had available.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Massa passed Alonso on the outside through the first turn and Virage Senna" -> "Massa passed Alonso on the outside through the first and second turns"
- "In the meantime, Button overtook Kvyat around the outside at the L'Epingle hairpin for 12th and Vettel held off Bottas at the turn 13 and 14 chicane." - Autosport doesn't state which lap this was (i assume "in the meantime" is referring to the same lap as Massa passing Alonso?)
- This is not made clear which lap it occurred MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. I can kinda guess that Button overtook Kvyat at lap 29 but there's no visual evidence with racing prodcution. So, "in the meantime" will work here. No changes needed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:17, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- "In the meantime, Button overtook Kvyat around the outside at the L'Epingle hairpin for 12th" -> "In the meantime, Button overtook Kvyat around the inside at the hairpin for 12th"
Note: see below.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Inside, not outside.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:17, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Inside, not outside.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "and Vettel held off Bottas at the turn 13 and 14 chicane" -> "and Vettel held off Bottas at the last chicane"
- This is not made clear which lap it occurred MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Better tyre management prompted Force India to extend third-placed Pérez's stint on the super soft compound tyres to lap 34." - Tyre managemnt and Force India deciding to have Pérez keep using the super soft tires until lap 34 are not mentioned. Only part that is mentioned that Pérez used the super soft tyres until lap 34.
Note: see below
- Used Autosport Live source MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. That looks fine except for "Better". A different word would be needed, or the phrase reworded to state Force India decided to keep Perez on the supersofts because the tires were doing good.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:54, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 07:54, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. That looks fine except for "Better". A different word would be needed, or the phrase reworded to state Force India decided to keep Perez on the supersofts because the tires were doing good.
- " He rejoined on the soft compound tyres in 11th." - no mention of which tyres Pérez used after his pit stop on 34. Also, I think you should state he did make the pit stop then as you mentioned earlier he hadn't made a pitstop earlier in the previous paragraph.
Note: see below --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 04:11, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added other sources MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Perez pitted at 35 and rejoined at 10th place per racing production. Therefore, BBC should be dropped as ESPN is right. It's silly how sources contradict each other :/ --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:00, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added other sources MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Perez was 10th after the pit stop, not 11th. I did get confused with "comes out behind Vergne in 10th" but racing production does verify 10th.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Used Autosport Live source MWright96 (talk) 14:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "As Hamilton slipstreamed Rosberg on the main straight a lap later" -> "As Hamilton slipstreamed Rosberg on the main straight that lap" (as the sentence before that now shows Kobayashi retired lap 25).
- "less than a second behind Rosberg on lap 28 and had DRS available." -> "less than a second behind Rosberg on lap 28 and had DRS available the following lap." (per GPUpdate)
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[edit]- "Hamilton caught his teammate Rosberg (who used 2 kg (4.4 lb) more fuel), who repelled the former's repeated attempts to pass." - not mentioned by BBC
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I think the fuel part is too much detail.
- "both car's engine control systems" -> both cars' engine control system
- "Rosberg's shut down on the approach to the L'Epingle hairpin on lap 36" -> "Rosberg's shut down on the approach to turn ten on lap 36"
- Fixed details MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, for some reason, the laps are off. It should be 37 for Hamilton and 38 for Rosberg according to the racing production.
- Note: The radio messages in Formula One are slightly delayed for various reasons and the lap-by-lap sources reported as when it was broadcast and not at the precise moment MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Huh. That's strange. In that case, F1 Racing does have the right laps. Who knew?? LOL XD --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: The radio messages in Formula One are slightly delayed for various reasons and the lap-by-lap sources reported as when it was broadcast and not at the precise moment MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "losing the engines 160 hp (120 kW) and tightened their steering ability." - ee News Automobile only connects this with Rosberg, not Hamilton.
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I see Motor Sport does show it applied to both. If you want to reinsert the rear braking issues, feel free to. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:41, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, the phrasing in the source "would have had" doesn't sound like he did lose his horsepower and had different steering ability. So I think this needs a new source to confirm that this did happen to both drivers or just Rosberg.
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "That lowered their top speed on the straights" -> That lowered their top speed on the straight
- "to restart the engine control systems were unsuccessful." -> "to restart the electric control systems were unsuccessful."
- "Bottas entered the pit lane from fifth on lap 35 in Williams' attempt to pass Vettel" - no indication by Motor Sport that Bottas was fifth when he entered the pit, nor was it Williams' idea.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I double checked the racing production. Bottas entered the pit on lap 36. It does confirm he was in 5th at the time.
- Used BBC source MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "A slow in-lap by Vettel put him behind his teammate Ricciardo, Bottas and both Force India cars" - not from what I'm seeing with racing production. It was Ricciardo, Massa, Alonso, Vergne, Perez, then Vettel after he came from the pits in lap 38.
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Fair enough. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:34, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "the third-placed Massa on a one-stop strategy" -> "the third-placed Massa on an one-stop strategy"
- "Rosberg entered the pit lane at the end of lap 43" -> "Rosberg entered the pit lane at lap 44"
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:17, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Hamilton's time in his pit stall overheated his rear brake discs" - Hamilton's pit stop before his rear brake discs overheating needs to be mentioned, as only Rosberg's pit stop had been mentioned the previous paragraph.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, maybe switch pit stall to pit stop.
- Motor Sport isn't specific the discs belong to his brakes.
- Reworded
- NVM, I do see multiple instances of brake discs, so rear discs would be the same. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded
- "and he ran wide at the L'Epingle hairpin on lap 46." -> and he ran wide at the hairpin on lap 46.
- "That encouraged Rosberg to draw alongside and took second from his teammate." -> No mention of how Rosberg took the position from Hamilton.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, Motor Sport said Rosberg retook the lead, but I know this is wrong per the racing production. A new source is needed to show Rosberg retook second after Hamilton running wide in the hairpin.
- Added another source
- "Hamilton then slipstreamed back past on the left with DRS; he ran onto the turn 13 and 14 chicane run-off area and relinquished second place to Rosberg" - New source needed to show that this happened at lap 46 (which racing production confirms). Guardian incorrectly has it as lap 48.
Note: see below section.
- "He ran off the track twice more and slowed before he was retired in the pit lane on lap 47." - similiarly Autosport doesn't mention he retired on lap 47. MIght be better to swap for a source that has all of it.
Note: see below section.
- "In the meantime, Massa led for two laps before an increase in tyre wear prompted Williams to revert to a two-stop strategy" -> In the meantime, Massa led for two laps before tyre wear prompted Williams to revert to a two-stop strategy"
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, source needed to show when Massa took the lead and that it was for two laps.
Note: see below section.
- "he entered the pit lane at the end of the 47th lap" -> " he entered the pit lane at the 47th lap"
Note: see below section.
- "Mercedes told him to go faster in the first sector to prevent Pérez from using DRS on the Casino Straight." -> *"Mercedes told him to go faster in the first sector to prevent Pérez from using DRS on the straight."
- "On lap 48, Kvyat retired with a drive shaft fault." -> On lap 48, Kvyat retired with a drive train fault.
- Done and corrected lap and added where he pulled off. MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also need a source to show it was lap 48 Kvyat retired.
- Done; it was lap 49 as according to several sources and the racing production. MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Nice catch! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done; it was lap 49 as according to several sources and the racing production. MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Bottas' tyres were 12 laps older than his teammate Massa's." - word for word that needs tweaking with "Bottas' tyres were 12 laps older"
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Good enough per limited wording. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Williams invoked team orders to allow Massa past Bottas and challenge Hülkenberg in fifth." - no mention of team orders, but Massa was indeed told to let Bottas go past him.
Note: see below section.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- " Bottas locked his heavily flat-spotted tyres at the L'Epingle hairpin. - - the Guardian source is inaccurate as it lists it as 59, even though it was at lap 57. While BBC Sport does have the right lap (57), none of this is verified.
Note: see below section.
- Used other sources
- "in an attempt to overtake Hülkenberg and Massa passed him on the right on lap 57" -> *"in an attempt to overtake Hülkenberg and Massa passed Bottas on lap 57"
- Done a little differently MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Hamilton then slipstreamed back past on the outside with DRS; he ran onto the final chicane's run-off area, and relinquished second position to Rosberg" - in terms of sources for this sentence, the only one that has them in the correct order of events (DRS/run-off/second position relinquish) and correct lap (46) is Motorsport. I suggest dropping all the other sources
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, "final chicane's" -> "final turn's as there's no mention of chicane
- Changed to final turn per Motorsport Magazine source MWright96 (talk) 07:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Similarly, no mention of "outside"
- "and relinquished second position to Rosberg" - true, but he did get ahead of Rosberg after the run-off before giving the place back via racing production
Note: see last point.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 07:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- "An increase in tyre wear on Massa's car prompted Williams to revert to a two-stop strategy. He entered the pit lane at the end of that lap" - new source needed as Massa pitted at lap 48, but Autosport has it at lap 47. Also, since it doesn't hve the tyre wear part, you can have a separate source for the tyre wear part that led to the second stop.
- Made changes MWright96 (talk) 07:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Motor Sport doesn't have "increase" so I think it's safe to drop that word only. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 07:39, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Motor Sport doesn't have "increase" so I think it's safe to drop that word only. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Made changes MWright96 (talk) 07:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Bottas' had tyres that were 12 laps older than his teammate Massa's" - could this be mentioned that this happened at lap 57? It seems out of place without it.
- "Williams told Massa to allow Bottas past" -> "Williams told Bottas to allow Massa past
- "to allow Bottas past for a challenge on Hülkenberg in fifth" - the radio production only says to swap, not why. So the challenge for fifth for Hulenberg is separate.
- "Bottas locked his heavily flat-spotted tyres at the hairpin in an attempt to overtake Hülkenberg" - Bottas locked his tires at the hairpin to allow Massa to pass. He then used DRS to overtake Hulkenberg. So again, two separate events.
- "Massa passed Bottas on lap 57." - if possible, could a source that shows that this happen at lap 57 be used instead? As mentioned before, Guardian/BBC Sport contradict each other. Also, racing production does verify lap 57.
- Used ESPN source MWright96 (talk) 07:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, this can be reworded to "Massa passed Bottas on that lap." per above.
- "and passed Rosberg for second. Hamilton then fell back behind Rosberg" - of the sources, the only cited source that does state Hamilton passed Rosberg after the final corner ("fight back") and giving back the place later ("yield") is GPUpdate. Therefore, I think Autosport/ESPN should be dropped while adjusting the sentences.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:30, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Adjusted sentence MWright96 (talk) 07:39, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Massa immediately passed Hülkenberg for fifth before the turn 13 and 14 chicane on that lap." -> "Massa passed Hülkenberg for fifth before the last chicane on that lap."
Note: see below.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think "immediately" is the right word here, as Massa passed Hulkenberg near the end of the lap. So if "immediately" was dropped, the rest would be fine as well. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think "immediately" is the right word here, as Massa passed Hulkenberg near the end of the lap. So if "immediately" was dropped, the rest would be fine as well. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "He then the race's fastest lap" -> "He then had the race's fastest lap"
- "as he drew closer to Vettel and Ricciardo, whom Pérez delayed" - this was for lap 57 according to Motor Sport. So it should come before the fastest lap which happened on lap 58.
- "overtook Bottas for seventh between turn one and Virage Senna" -> "overtook Bottas for seventh between turns one and two"
- "under braking for the L'Epingle hairpin." -> " under braking for the hairpin."
- "Vettel ran wide to avoid contact," - slight rewording needed to pass limited wording.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Massa gained on Vettel on the Casino Straight;" -> "Massa gained on Vettel on the long straight"
- "forgot to deploy his DRS." - word for word copy. If you reword "deploy", it'll pass limited wording.
- "In the meantime, Pérez in second had rear brake problems and Ricciardo challenged him" - Motor Sport doesn't state Pérez was in second at lap 64.
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not 100% sure if "swarming" him is the same as challenging him. Maybe that can be confirmed with the above point.
- See above response. MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "On the 66th lap, Ricciardo used DRS, and steered right to pass Pérez for second on the approach to turn one. An error put him onto the grass and maintained the left at Virage Senna corner. That caused Vettel to nearly hit Pérez's car in the subsequent concertina effect." - none of this verified by Autosport. As for Motorsport, it doesn't have a specific lap indicator (like 66 laps or four laps remaining). I think Autosport can be swapped for a source that does connect these events to lap 66.
- Added other sources. MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Alternativelly, everything is verified by Motor Sport except for "maintained the left at Virage Senna corner." --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:34, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- What do you mean with "He stayed on that line"? Also, no mention of "maintained the left at Virage Senna corner. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:41, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Removed that portion of text MWright96 (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- It would be better to have the "On the 66th lap" citation at the end of "to pass Pérez for second entering turn one" cause I don't think "On the 66th lap" is enough to cite alone. However, this is not a major issue.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- "He went onto the grass at Virage Senna corner." Neither ESPN nor Autosport list Turn one as Virage Senna. Therefore, Virage Senna needs rewording.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded to turn one MWright96 (talk) 06:39, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Gutiérrez retired with an energy storage system failure on the 67th lap" - while Autosport does say he pitted with four laps remaining, it doesn't say he retired that lap. ESPN does verify the reason why he retired.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Ricciardo lowered Rosberg's lead to seven-tenths of a second over the next two laps." - true, but this would need to be put at the start of the paragraph, since this was from 66-67.
Note: see below.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "over the next two laps" -> between laps 66 to 67 (as the last sentence of the previous paragraph already mentioned 66).
- "over the next two laps" -> between laps 66 to 67 (as the last sentence of the previous paragraph already mentioned 66).
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "On the approach to the turn 13 and 14 chicane on lap 68," -> " On the approach to the back straight on lap 68,"
Note: see below.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Guardian doesn't mention back straight is a "chicane", so I suggest dropping that specific word only.
- Guardian doesn't mention back straight is a "chicane", so I suggest dropping that specific word only.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "to overtake him for third at the end of the Casino Straight" -> " to overtake him for third at the end of the back straight"
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- You can drop Autosport to avoid overcitation as Sunday Telegraph/Guardian cover it all.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Pérez was slower on the start/finish straight from having an untidy exit out of the final corner." -> Pérez was slow on the straight from having an untidy exit out of the final corner.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I don't see a change, but I think it's fine as Straight (racing) says pit straight is before the finish line. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:25, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "He went slightly to his left as Massa steered left in anticipation of holding the former to the right entering the first turn" - bit wordy and i think a tiny bit inaccurate. Massa used the inside lane and Pérez steered slightly left. Then Massa began to steer right to hold Pérez to the right entering the first turn.
Note: see below
- Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 21:37, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- I also think this needs a bit of rewording too to help with close paraphrasing. It is a lot of details, so summary can help cut it down.
Note: see last point.
- "braked 10 m (33 ft) earlier than on the lap before." - don't think this is needed as this part came up after the steward's decision into the accident.
- In doing so, Massa's front right tyre and the back of Pérez's left-rear wheel collided" - new source to show this happened at lap 69.
"which caused both drivers to career out of control." -> "which caused both drivers to careen out of control." Note: see below.
- With the new source, I don't see careening out of control mentioned in Autosport. I think another source is needed alongside this one to show their cars were out of control after the collision.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:01, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added MWright96 (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Motor Sport only references the careening part to Perez (even though that's wrong since Vettel avoided Massa), but both cars as hitting the barriers after their wheels collided. If you really wanted to, you could drop the careening part. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:09, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added MWright96 (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- With the new source, I don't see careening out of control mentioned in Autosport. I think another source is needed alongside this one to show their cars were out of control after the collision.
- "Pérez rammed into a barrier to his right at 32 g0 (310 m/s2)" -> "Pérez rammed into a barrier at 32 g0 (310 m/s2)"
- "into the right-hand side tyre barrier and sustained an impact of 27 g0 (260 m/s2)" -> into a tyre barrier and sustained an impact of 27 g0 (260 m/s2)"
- In regards to the calculations, I'm not sure if I'm using the right conversion (as I don't see g0). If it is right, then 27 g0 should be 265 m/s2 and 32 g0 should be 314 m/s2. Please let me know if I'm using the wrong units.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you're using the wrong units for this instance MWright96 (talk) 07:39, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- In that case, could you point me to somewhere this conversion can be done? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:23, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- I am unable to do so; using g in the conversion on this encyclopedia results in an error message. MWright96 (talk) 21:37, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- I mean linking here in this review somewhere where I could do the conversion. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:01, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- No unfortunately no link has been found by yours truly. Note: Formula One and other racing series use the horizontal measurement and not vertical. MWright96 (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by that lol. SInce you can't find anywhere to convert g force to mph, I think both mphs should be dropped as neither source has the mph parts, just g-force. If there was somewhere to convert it, I could confirm whether the mph is correct. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:19, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Removed convert template because it is causing more problems than anticipated MWright96 (talk) 06:49, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- No worries. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:19, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Removed convert template because it is causing more problems than anticipated MWright96 (talk) 06:49, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by that lol. SInce you can't find anywhere to convert g force to mph, I think both mphs should be dropped as neither source has the mph parts, just g-force. If there was somewhere to convert it, I could confirm whether the mph is correct. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:19, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- No unfortunately no link has been found by yours truly. Note: Formula One and other racing series use the horizontal measurement and not vertical. MWright96 (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- I mean linking here in this review somewhere where I could do the conversion. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:01, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- I am unable to do so; using g in the conversion on this encyclopedia results in an error message. MWright96 (talk) 21:37, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- In that case, could you point me to somewhere this conversion can be done? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:23, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you're using the wrong units for this instance MWright96 (talk) 07:39, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Massa's front right tyre and the back of Pérez's left-rear wheel collided" -> Massa's front right tyre and Pérez's left-rear wheel collided" (to prevent redundancy)
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:42, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Post-race
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[edit]- "At the podium interviews, conducted the 1995 winner of the race Jean Alesi," - extra source needed to show Alesi was the 1995 winner.
Note: see below.
- Added MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- For some reason, the UK version of the Reuters page is working for me. However, the American version is and does verify it. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:29, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- For some reason, the UK version of the Reuters page is working for me. However, the American version is and does verify it. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:29, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- "conducted the 1995 winner of the race Jean Alesi," -> "conducted by the 1995 winner of the race Jean Alesi,"
- Added MWright96 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Lots of Aussie flags, that’s nice. It’s just an amazing feeling right now," - an ellipsis is needed between "that's nice" and "It’s just an amazing feeling" as some of the quote is not stated here.
- "Rosberg stated he had no knowledge of his surroundings" - yep, but he specified this was after his second pit stop.
- Clarified MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "His compatriot Vettel congratulated his teammate Ricciardo on winning and commended Red Bull's effort" - Vettel did congratulated Ricciardo, but I don't see any mention of him prasing his team's effort.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Rosberg revealed he had to cool his brakes after his kinetic motor–generator unit failed," - the quoted part " "It was a very, very difficult day" does not belong to the paragraph where Rosberg talked about cooling his brakes. It belongs to the question by Chris Medland about the points. So either the part before the quote needs to be changed, or the quote itself.
- Changed quote MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, I suggest using a more neutral word for "revealed" if you choose to keep the kinetic motor–generator unit part.
- "Vettel said he felt Red Bull had been fortunate after overcoming several inter-team issues during pre-season testing" - not mentioned in the Formula One quotes
Note: see below.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Vettel said he felt Red Bull had been fortunate after overcoming several issues early in the season" -> "Vettel said he felt Red Bull had been fortunate after several issues early in the season" (as Vettel doesn't mention overcoming the issues, just the issues themselves)
- "Vettel said he felt Red Bull had been fortunate after overcoming several issues early in the season" -> "Vettel said he felt Red Bull had been fortunate after several issues early in the season" (as Vettel doesn't mention overcoming the issues, just the issues themselves)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "and finishing the race ahead of both the Mercedes" -> "and finishing the race ahead of one of the Mercedes." --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:38, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Corrected MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Pérez and Massa were unhurt; they were transported to the circuit's medical centre...registered enough of a G-force to activate their car's medical alarm" - two sentences please especially because of the semicolon.
- "before being airlifted to the Hôpital du Sacré-Cœur de Montréal" - The fuller version of the Times of Malta source gives the shorter name of the hospital. Minor point.
Note: see below.
- Added a source from The Times that states this MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- As I don't have access to the web version of it, I checked GaleGroup for a copy. It lists it as "Hopital du Sacre Coeur in Montreal" not "Hôpital du Sacré-Cœur de Montréal". Slight tweak needed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 06:28, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- I still see it as "Hopital du Sacre Coeur in Montreal". Also, Times of Malta has it as Sacre Coeur as well. So, you could use the shorten name if prefered. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:21, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 06:28, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- As I don't have access to the web version of it, I checked GaleGroup for a copy. It lists it as "Hopital du Sacre Coeur in Montreal" not "Hôpital du Sacré-Cœur de Montréal". Slight tweak needed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added a source from The Times that states this MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "the same line and braking patterns prior to the crash" - word for word of Guardian with "same line and braking patterns" that needs a slight reword as its Pérez's quote.--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:58, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Force India team manager Andy Stevenson suspected a conspiracy" - Steveneson wasn't the only one that felt it was a conspiracy, but Force India themselves.
- Clarified MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "suspected a conspiracy" - might need a reword with "suspected"
- "who acrimoniously ended his partnership with Pérez in 2012" - I'd drop "acrimoniously" for neturality
- "FIA Race Director and Permanent Starter Charlie Whiting" -> "FIA Race Director Charlie Whiting"
- "On 20 June, the stewards convened a meeting" - I suggest rewording "convened" as it's an unique word.
- "to review driver testimony and telemetry from Force India." -> to review driver testimony and telemetry from Pérez.
- "The FIA upheld the stewards' decision by reiterating their view Pérez had illegally changed his direction entering turn one." - no mention of the FIA specifying these specific details as to why they upheld the previous decision. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:58, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- This sounds off grammatically plus it's not exactly correct per FIA's quoted statements. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:28, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded for a third time MWright96 (talk) 21:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- This sounds off grammatically plus it's not exactly correct per FIA's quoted statements. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:28, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "there was no good reason on which to change it" - I think "no good reason" should be reworded for a more neutral word/phrasing. Rest is good and doesn't require any other edits. I know this one has been reworded three times already.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:49, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Changed. MWright96 (talk) 21:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "The stewards also reviewed the accident between Marussia teammates Chilton and Bianchi on the first lap. Chilton incurred a three-place grid penalty for the upcoming Austrian Grand Prix for being deemed at fault for the accident" - no mention of the stewards reviewing the accident nor giving out a future penalty in this source. However, it does link to one that does have it, so I suggest swapping it out.
- "and argued for the release additional television footage to prove if his teammate was responsible." - sorta. Chilton said if more television footage had been vailable, he believed it would show that Bianchi was responsible.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "He believed the release of additional television footage would show if his teammate was responsible" -> "He believed additional television footage would have shown his teammate was responsible" --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:10, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "and had provided Chilton with adequate space to drive past" -> "and had provided Chilton with space to drive past"
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[edit]- "Rosberg, who drove onto the turn 13 and 14 chicane run-off area on lap 25" -> "Rosberg, who drove onto the run-off area on lap 25"
- "stated his belief the regulations concerning minor driver errors needed to be clarified to lower the stewards' work load," - Rosberg didn't state a regulation clarification for minor driver errors would be needed to "lower the stewards' work load" but to stop automatic steward investigations on minor driver errors.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Just spotted this now: "stated his belief the regulations on minor driver errors " -> "stated his belief that the regulations on minor driver errors"
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 11:27, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- "Their colleague Damon Hill, the 1996 world champion, said a warning was justified" - Sky Sports doesn't have the year Hill was world champion. I don't think this is really needed either.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:58, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- "Ferrari moved a further point clear of Force India" - not sure what you mean here. Do you mean their lead over Force India went down a point (from 11 to 10)?
- Clarified MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- "in the battle for third place" - suggest rewording "battle" for netural.
- "After his retirement from the race, Hamilton admitted he required a form similar to his four wins in a row earlier in the season to retake the lead in the Drivers' Championship, "It is going to take a lot, four wins. I just can’t believe that my car stops and the other doesn’t. Two DNFs is not easy but I have caught up before and I will catch up again."[65]" - seems out of place as this section is talking about points. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 04:16, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to the paragraph above MWright96 (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- The results of the race are on a separate page. The current citation in this table is linking to the qualification.
- Forumla 1 only has 1 decimal point in the time differences, e.g. 4.2 instead of 4.236. This applies from Rosberg to Räikkönen (postions 2-10).
- Added another source. MWright96 (talk) 10:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Same issue with team name for Vergne and Kvyat.
- See above point. MWright96 (talk) 10:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Gutiérrez grid number is 22 in the F1 source. If you want to keep it as PL (which I persume is pit lane), then a source for this one is needed.
- Added source from Chicane F1. MWright96 (talk) 10:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- There's some retired reasons throughout the source that need changes. Collision should be Accident for 4 racers (Pérez, Massa, Chilton and Bianchi), Power unit should be Energy storage system for Gutiérrez, Drive train instead of drive shaft for Kvyat, and Turbo instead of oil leak for Ericsson.
- Changed. MWright96 (talk) 10:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- "did not finish the race but were classified as they completed more than 90% of the race distance" - Sutil also didn't finish the race and was classified as well.
- Added. MWright96 (talk) 10:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Also, Formula 1 doesn't specify they completed 90% of the race distance which allowed them to be classified. Source needed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:59, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- I see you added the 2014 FIA regulation. I think it's 90%, not more than 90% per "Cars having covered less than 90%...will not be classified". You also might want to add a page number (page 37) but this is not mandatory for GA review.
- Also, as these regulations were written before the race season, I suggest rewording it to reflect on the regulations written for the year, not for the race. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done both points. MWright96 (talk) 19:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Still see the issue with "more than 90% of the race distance" - I think it should be "at least 90%". --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done that MWright96 (talk) 19:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- FIA doesn't have the flags for the Constructors but does for the drivers.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:28, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Added an official season entry list to verify the nationality of the constructors MWright96 (talk) 21:34, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]- No licensing issues.
- I'll check the rest of the captions once I review the article, but I did spot Perez's caption saying "for the Austrian Grand Prix". Perhaps this should be amended for "upcoming Austrian Grand Prix" as it fooled me to think it was talking about this race LOL XD --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:10, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hamilton retired on lap 48, not 47. Unless you're referring that he completed 47 laps. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:56, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Recap of what's left
[edit]This section will hopefully make it easier to know what's left to do in individual sections, especially if it's just one item left. I'll check them off/comment in the above sections. This spot is just a reminder:
- Background P1: Either a source is needed to verify that yellow soft is "prime" and red supersoft is "option". Otherwise, both "prime" and "option" should be drop with an adjustment of refs.
- Practice P1: 1) Exit needs to be dropped for Bianchi's collision with the wall, 2) pluralizing wheels for Hulkenberg's spin in the grass.
- Practice P2: Either summarizing the ESPN source to avoid capitalizing Pit Lane or swapping source to match capitalizing of Pit Lane for Ricciardo's reprimand.
- Practice P3: Reduce wordiness of the Esteban Gutiérrez redflagged sentence.
--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:12, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Overall
[edit]@MWright96: Overall, this was a long article for me to review lol. In terms of criteria: has list of references, main aspects are covered, is stable, image licenses are fine, As for what needs to be adressed: minor points are some grammar, one source in particular needed to be swapped out (Bleacher Report) which you did, some unnecessary details are included (like the Sky Sports commentator being a former world champion), some words needed to be swapped out for neturality like "battle", a few of a captions need to be updated. Major points are with sources either not verifying any of the statement and require either source swapping or adjusted to match what the source states. Alternatively, some phrasing needed to be swapped in order to match the terminology of the sources (like straight instead of Casino Straight and hairpin instead of L'Epingle hairpin) I'll have to double check for words to watch and copyvio. As you've gone through a lot of it already, plus I have to recheck the ones you have done before this overall review, I'll put this on hold for a week then recheck your progress. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- @MWright96: As you can tell, I'm not finishing reviewing your inital edits to the race paragraphs. Eventually, when I'm finished I'll make a updated summarized list of what needs to be done. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:24, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- @MWright96: As of now, there's some assorted stuff leftover from Race paragraphs P6-P8. You might have noticed that I haven't been reviewing as much as before. I've been getting tired of GA reviewing overall, but this is none of your fault. I'll most likely take a break from reviewing after finishing my already open ones. Also, I haven't been on Wikipedia as much this week partially to my work schedule, but also because I've been spending less time on Wikipedia with my spare time this week as well. However, my next week's schedule will provide me with more spare time than now. With the amount of stuff that's left over, I think this could be finished very quickly. P.S. you might have seen that this article is still marked as on review. Technically, it should be on hold as I was reviewing your initial edits on Jan 15th but I forgot to change it over. Therefore, it's been 2 weeks since it would have been on hold. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:55, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- You're all set now @MWright96:. I'll definitely will be taking a break from future GA reviews due to the time these reviews take. Well done for another GA article! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:01, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- @MWright96: As of now, there's some assorted stuff leftover from Race paragraphs P6-P8. You might have noticed that I haven't been reviewing as much as before. I've been getting tired of GA reviewing overall, but this is none of your fault. I'll most likely take a break from reviewing after finishing my already open ones. Also, I haven't been on Wikipedia as much this week partially to my work schedule, but also because I've been spending less time on Wikipedia with my spare time this week as well. However, my next week's schedule will provide me with more spare time than now. With the amount of stuff that's left over, I think this could be finished very quickly. P.S. you might have seen that this article is still marked as on review. Technically, it should be on hold as I was reviewing your initial edits on Jan 15th but I forgot to change it over. Therefore, it's been 2 weeks since it would have been on hold. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:55, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Recap of what's left Part 2
[edit]- Qualifying P1: I think Ricciardo's sixth place qualification needs additional rewording.
- P3 Race: Sorcing issue with Massa's front-left wheel gun failure at lap 13 as current sources don't have all of the info.
Minor typo of Rosberg's name at the kurb incidient at lap 19.
Note: If you do find soruces that don't contradict with each other in terms of Massa's wheel gun failure at lap 13, let me know if you've put it back in with sources. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:48, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- P4 Race: Perez was 10th after he made his pit stop at lap 35, not 11th.
- P7 Race: Question about "stay the line" and no mention about Virage Senna for Riccardido's pass for 2nd at lap 66.
- P8 Race: 1) Bit more summary needed to avoid word order for Massa/Pérez's collision with the Motor Sport source. 2) Extra source needed to show Massa/Pérez careened out of control after their collision. 3) (Doesn't effect review) a website linked to this review so i can verify the conversion between g force to mph.
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