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== Repeated accusations and harassment == |
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'''Initiated by ''' [[User:Wikieditor662|Wikieditor662]] ([[User talk:Wikieditor662|talk]]) '''at''' 21:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC) |
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=== Proposed parties === |
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*{{userlinks|Wikieditor662}}, ''filing party'' |
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*{{userlinks|Softlavender}} |
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*{{admin|Graham87}} |
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*{{userlinks|Gerda Arendt}} |
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*{{userlinks|Aza24}} |
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*{{userlinks|Usedtobecool}} |
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;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1238244645] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1238244640] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1238244638] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1238244619] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1238244633] |
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;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Ban_threats_from_User_talk:Graham87|#Ban_threats_from_User_talk:Graham87]] (In Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents) |
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=== Statement by Wikieditor662 === |
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It started when Graham87 suggested I was a sockpuppet and told me that I deserve to be banned in [[User talk:Wikieditor662#Composer is a common word|#Composer is a common word]] under [[User talk:Wikieditor662]]. This was despite sufficient evidence (it was because I redirected the word "composers" to a timeline of composers, and linked the word on a bunch of composers' articles, and if I recall correctly I stopped after being told not to do this. He also said my edits seemed weird for a newcomer) which I believe to be a violation of the [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith]] and later I was told also [[Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers]]. In dispute resolution, where usedtobecool explained why there was no point in calling me a sockpuppet if he wasn't sure, and Graham87 admitted that he has become less kind to newcomers because of his past experiences. Softlavender then commented calling me a "timesink" because I sometimes question the more experienced members (although I usually do what they say) and because some of my edits were undiscussed, reverted, and seemed to be too advanced to a newcomer -- all of which I don't believe count as sufficient evidence and again violate the previously mentioned policies. Thank you. [[User:Wikieditor662|Wikieditor662]] ([[User talk:Wikieditor662|talk]]) 21:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Softlavender also said they struggled to find more than one useful edit. However, I expanded, reworded, and added citations to multiple articles such as [[C.P.E. Bach]] and [[Vivaldi]]. For the color codes on [[List of classical music composers by era]], some composers were in a transitionary time period between two eras so I spent hours coloring and figuring out the colors of the transitionary composers between their two eras. And while I don't believe I asked before making these changes (I don't think it's required anyway), one of the members (Gor1995) said that my edits were ok on the first conversation on my talk page. I also don't think asking on there would've gotten any response, I asked about something else on there and nobody responded. |
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:Also, I need to correct one of my statements about when I stopped linking the word composers. Usedtobecool explained it best: "Best I can tell, OP [me, Wikieditor662] made a couple edits of the same kind after they received the original warning but did not persist once it became clear the edits were controversial beyond a simple disagreement with Gerda. So, Gerda's expression of disappointment came a bit quick too, in my opinion. I can see how OP might have felt cornered." |
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:Thank you once again. [[User:Wikieditor662|Wikieditor662]] ([[User talk:Wikieditor662|talk]]) 05:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::Also, I had no idea Graham87 was an administrator until filing this case. Still, I should've stopped when he asked me too, although I don't think it violated any rule, since I thought he was an ordinary member. [[User:Wikieditor662|Wikieditor662]] ([[User talk:Wikieditor662|talk]]) 06:35, 3 August 2024 (UTC) |
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=== Statement by Softlavender === |
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=== Statement by Graham87 === |
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I don't think I'll dignify this request with a full statement but there are some things that are worth responding to here. [[User:Wikieditor662|Wikieditor662]], you didn't stop after being told not to add these links, as clearly shown by [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Wikieditor662&target=Wikieditor662&offset=20240728080000&limit=36 your contributions at the time]. I like Robert McClenon's term "Bizarre ignorant errors"; Wikieditor662 seems to make many more of those than useful contributions. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] ([[User talk:Graham87|talk]]) 05:04, 3 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Wikieditor662}} (6:35 (UTC) message): To your credit, you did stop adding these links after [[User talk:Wikieditor662#Composer is a common word|I asked you to]], because my message came about seven hours after Gerda's, but you still kept on defending the link additions. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] ([[User talk:Graham87|talk]]) 11:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC) |
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=== Statement by Gerda Arendt === |
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=== Statement by Aza24 === |
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This is a rather extreme overreaction to a relatively civil conversation at ANI. I don't see any nee for arbitration at this point. – '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 06:30, 3 August 2024 (UTC) |
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=== Statement by Usedtobecool === |
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===Statement by Just Step Sideways=== |
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This is clearly not a matter for the committee and should be speedily dismissed instead of being voted on for a week. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 22:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC) |
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===Statement by Robert McClenon (Wikieditor662)=== |
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ArbCom is the only conduct forum in which there isn't a [[WP:BOOMERANG|boomerang]] principle. So the question for the community of English Wikipedia administrators is how much patience they need to have with the filing editor before deciding that a [[WP:CIR|competency]] block is necessary. By the way, one reason to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] about this editor actually being a new editor is that redirecting a plural from the singular to a list really is the sort of bizarre error that shows ignorance rather than disruption. But bizarre ignorant errors sometimes require a [[WP:CIR|competency]] block. |
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[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 02:36, 3 August 2024 (UTC) |
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=== Statement by {Non-party} === |
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Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information. |
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=== Repeated accusations and harassment: Clerk notes === |
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