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== Warsaw concentration camp == |
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'''Initiated by ''' [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> '''at''' 13:35, 21 December 2021 (UTC) |
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*{{admin|Jehochman}}, ''filing party'' |
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*{{userlinks|Piotrus}} |
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*{{userlinks|Volunteer Marek}} |
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;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request |
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*[diff of notification Piotrus] |
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*[diff of notification Volunteer Marek] |
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;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried |
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* [Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard&oldid=1058527482#User:Piotrus,_User:Volunteer_Marek,_and_Haaretz COIN discussion ending without result 4 December 2021] |
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Warsaw_concentration_camp&oldid=1058851569#RfC:_Haaretz_article_on_errors_in_WP_article_about_the_Warsaw_concentration_camp Original RFC at Talk:Warsaw concentration camp] |
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reliability_of_Wikipedia&oldid=1060945119#RFC:_Warsaw_concentration_camp_theory RFC at Talk:Reliability of Wikipedia] |
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia/Archive_2&oldid=1060694442#warsaw An older discussion at WT:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia] |
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=== Statement by Jehochman === |
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'''Issue: If a newspaper publishes an article critical of an editor's editing, can the editor remove that newspaper article, and content sourced to it, from Wikipedia?''' On Oct. 4, 2019, Omer Benjakob of ''[[Haaretz]]'', Israel's paper of record, published a story about Wikipedia's coverage of Poland and the Holocaust, including what Benjakob called Wikipedia's longest-running hoax, related to content at the article "[[Warsaw concentration camp]]": [https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-the-fake-nazi-death-camp-wikipedia-s-longest-hoax-exposed-1.7942233]. In this article, Benjakob interviewed [[User:Icewhiz]] and [[User:Piotrus]], among others, and wrote, in the newspaper's voice, content that was critical of Icewhiz, Piotrus, [[User:Volunteer Marek]], and others, as well as Wikipedia as a whole. As Benjakob predicted, back in 2019, and again in 2021, Piotrus and Volunteer Marek have removed content about the hoax, and the Haaretz article, from multiple Wikipedia pages. (excerpts copied from COIN) |
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This is yet another hydra head from [[WP:EEML|EEML]], a 2009 arbitration case. This matter has been unresolvable due to severe, persistent behavioral problems. The dispute is causing extreme damage to the encyclopedia, by enabling [[disinformation]] and [[ahistory]]. {{u|Icewhiz}} is not named because they were recently banned by WMF. Choice quotation: |
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{{blockquote|quotation=Jesus fucking Christ, reading COIN today was a mistake, because this thread makes me want to shove a pickaxe through my skull.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1058028030&diffmode=source]}} |
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I came across this mess at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Closure_requests&oldid=1061390133#Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#User:Piotrus,_User:Volunteer_Marek,_and_Haaretz Wikipedia:Closure requests]. Due to the fact that I was one of the people specifically targeted for harassment by EEML, I will not touch it. No other administrator appears willing, or able, to take on this monster, despite there having been at least four long (and heated) discussions. Therefore, I have wrapped it with a bow, and placed it under your Christmas tree. Welcome to the Arbitration Committee! |
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=== Statement by Piotrus === |
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=== Statement by Volunteer Marek === |
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=== Statement by {Non-party} === |
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Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information. |
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=== Warsaw concentration camp: Clerk notes === |
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:''This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).'' |
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=== Warsaw concentration camp: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0> === |
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{{anchor|1=Warsaw concentration camp: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter}}<small>Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)</small> |
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Revision as of 13:35, 21 December 2021
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Amendment request: Definition of the "area of conflict" Clause 4 (b) | Motion | none | 26 July 2024 |
Amendment request: Palestine-Israel articles (AE referral) | none | none | 17 August 2024 |
Clarification request: Conduct in deletion-related editing | none | (orig. case) | 8 September 2024 |
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Warsaw concentration camp
Initiated by Jehochman Talk at 13:35, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Involved parties
- Jehochman (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA), filing party
- Piotrus (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Volunteer Marek (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- [diff of notification Piotrus]
- [diff of notification Volunteer Marek]
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
- [Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard&oldid=1058527482#User:Piotrus,_User:Volunteer_Marek,_and_Haaretz COIN discussion ending without result 4 December 2021]
- Original RFC at Talk:Warsaw concentration camp
- RFC at Talk:Reliability of Wikipedia
- An older discussion at WT:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia
Statement by Jehochman
Issue: If a newspaper publishes an article critical of an editor's editing, can the editor remove that newspaper article, and content sourced to it, from Wikipedia? On Oct. 4, 2019, Omer Benjakob of Haaretz, Israel's paper of record, published a story about Wikipedia's coverage of Poland and the Holocaust, including what Benjakob called Wikipedia's longest-running hoax, related to content at the article "Warsaw concentration camp": [1]. In this article, Benjakob interviewed User:Icewhiz and User:Piotrus, among others, and wrote, in the newspaper's voice, content that was critical of Icewhiz, Piotrus, User:Volunteer Marek, and others, as well as Wikipedia as a whole. As Benjakob predicted, back in 2019, and again in 2021, Piotrus and Volunteer Marek have removed content about the hoax, and the Haaretz article, from multiple Wikipedia pages. (excerpts copied from COIN)
This is yet another hydra head from EEML, a 2009 arbitration case. This matter has been unresolvable due to severe, persistent behavioral problems. The dispute is causing extreme damage to the encyclopedia, by enabling disinformation and ahistory. Icewhiz is not named because they were recently banned by WMF. Choice quotation:
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I came across this mess at Wikipedia:Closure requests. Due to the fact that I was one of the people specifically targeted for harassment by EEML, I will not touch it. No other administrator appears willing, or able, to take on this monster, despite there having been at least four long (and heated) discussions. Therefore, I have wrapped it with a bow, and placed it under your Christmas tree. Welcome to the Arbitration Committee!
Statement by Piotrus
Statement by Volunteer Marek
Statement by {Non-party}
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
Warsaw concentration camp: Clerk notes
- This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
Warsaw concentration camp: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0>
Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)