Talk:Queen bee syndrome

What on earth does it mean that "queen bee is a 'realistic' term?" that's unscientific, no basis for establishing real vs unreal when describing metaphors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.223.236.152 (talk) 21:07, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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relevant study mentioned here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375517/Why-females-bosses-wreck-womens-promotion-hopes.html

--Penbat (talk) 08:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

found new study: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WX8-502GH1M-1&_user=10&_coverDate=01%2F31%2F2011&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=gateway&_origin=gateway&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1713414800&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=04827be75f287446c48d25c4e5838b53&searchtype=a

--Penbat (talk) 08:24, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2016835/Queen-bee-syndro

Evaluation for Psych 101

With as many references as this page has to support it's points about this certain topic, there isn't much to learn about it. I think you should include more examples of Queen Bee Syndrome such as people who show signs of having this such syndrome as well as symptoms. There is not treatment stated nor is there any reasoning in why this syndrome would appear. More information about the topic is needed as well as some grammar correction. --DieHardMcClain (talk) 20:54, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

me-Women-warned-steer-clear-female-bosses-want-rise-ranks.html --Penbat (talk) 18:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, this page is utter bunk and should be strongly considered for deletion. Notable examples includes teenage comedy "Mean Girls"? Really? It's really hard to take this article as anything more than a joke. I would encourage anyone to weigh in on what value this page in its current state adds to the website. Primecut (talk) 15:52, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Could this criticism be clarified?

A study by Credit Suisse counters the evidence of the queen bee phenomenon. In examining 3,400 of the world's largest companies, it was revealed that female CEOs were 50% more likely than their male counterparts to have a female CFO; and 55% more likely to have business units run by women. It was also discovered that while typically women are found within human resources or legal departments, in female-led companies it became less likely due to the fact that female CEOs were supporting their female executives branching out into more influential roles within the company.

The latter talks solely about "the largest companies", and the study is from 2016. I read an article from the Atlantic which mentioned that the more women there are, the less they are competitive (i.e. companies that hire the least women (only for appearance) had higher rates of competition). So is "studying only the largest companies" not biased then? I.e. regardless of whether "Queen bee is a female thing or not" (I don't expect it to be, that Atlantic article also said people such as Naomi Ellemers suggested that it is situational (albeit situations women for biological reasons end up more often in)) this phenomenon might thus be a real phenomenon (maybe not specific to women), and in that context this critique does not seem to be very relevant to this phenomenon. Ybllaw (talk) 12:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is Hazing related to this (e.g. for including under see also)? I.e. competing with newcomers? Ybllaw (talk) 12:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ethymology

I.e. how accurate is it to call this hypothesis of women who were hired in a niche job keeping other women out "queen bee behaviour"? Do bees actually exhibit this behaviour? I read on Queen bee that workers are often competing/enticing competition, not queen bees? Any biologist who could explain if the words "Queen bee" even accurately describe this "concept"? Ybllaw (talk) 12:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a figure of speech. You are taking it WAAAAAAAYYY too literally. However, a newly hatched queen bee will seek out other incubating queens and kill them. "There can be only one." --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Going through my list of contributions to leave low-effort hostile replies to them is pushing me to consider approaching moderation if this persists.

As to your specific reply here, an emotional argument "You are taking it [way] too literally" is not an answer. My question wasn't about "the perceived usefulness of figure of speech", it was about something concrete. I see no proof for your claims about Queen bee behaviour. Ybllaw (talk) 12:48, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you actually read the queen bee article? It's right there in the third paragraph of the virgin queen bee section. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]