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Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2020
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Alexisdu61 (talk) 19:36, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Bonjour, je voudrai apporter des modifications sur le nombre de cas confirmés de la France, le nombr de décès ainsi que le nombre de guérison , il est de 286 007 cas confirmés , 30661 décès et de 86712 personnes guéris , voici les sources à l'appuis :
https://dashboard.covid19.data.gouv.fr/vue-d-ensemble?location=FRA
Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2020
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For Fiji, there is 22 recovered cases not 23. This was mentioned by the Health Minister Ifereimi Waqainabete. Sources provided: [1]. Thanks. 27.123.136.36 (talk) 06:37, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- This has already been done, thanks. Capewearer (talk) 10:05, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Uk and Spain: same situation, different treatments
Uk and Spain don't update recovered people number since long time. Uk is marked as "no data". Spain is marked with the a updated on May. Why? Thanks. --Paolotacchi (talk) 06:17, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- The cases are different. The UK stopped giving figures in March when the total was 135. Spain stopped on 18 May when the total was 150,376 and presumably no one has noticed until now. I suggest replacing the unreferenced note saying "Excludes serology–confirmed cases." with one saying that the figure for recoveries is as of 18 May. However, to avoid errors I think any changes should be made by someone who understands Spainish, which I do not. Dudley Miles (talk) 11:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Widen the "cases" column...for the extra digit
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Looks like "126" million is the real number? (or else USA, alone, has more casesthan itself+the rest of the world, with is mathematically impossible — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.99.120 (talk) 01:51, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: 26.3 million is the correct figure per JHU and others. The numbers for individual countries may not add up to that precise figure, as many different sources are used for those countries, and some exclude figures counted in the JHU total. Capewearer (talk) 09:59, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2020
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Sept,4 (8 Am)
Total confirmed case in Myanmar now is 1133, total recovery of 369 and 7 death
Source: Ministry of Health and Sports Myanmar Ganeshpdl20 (talk) 06:56, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Done: the reference cited confirms those numbers, apart from the recovery number which is still reported as 359 [2] as I write this: I'm assuming that 369 is a typo, unless you've got another reliable source to confirm the higher number. Capewearer (talk) 09:53, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Add a disclaimer about totals not summing up properly?
After seeing Capewearer's response to a question, it occurred to me that we might want to append a footnote or similar stating that the sum of cases in different regions may not equal the total reported in the "Worldwide" row as the latter uses sources like JHU that differ from nation-specific sources. I'm not sure if the confusion is common enough to warrant an edit notice, but adding a disclaimer may help curb edit requests that point out the discrepancy. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea, if it doesn't add too much clutter to the footnotes. Capewearer (talk) 18:52, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- There is already a disclaimer. See note e to 'World' Dudley Miles (talk) 19:35, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- You're right, thanks. Anyone think it needs to be any clearer? Capewearer (talk) 20:29, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe we should think about using a simpler word like "total" or "sum" instead of "aggregates". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:55, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed. Capewearer (talk) 21:04, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe we should think about using a simpler word like "total" or "sum" instead of "aggregates". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:55, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- You're right, thanks. Anyone think it needs to be any clearer? Capewearer (talk) 20:29, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- There is already a disclaimer. See note e to 'World' Dudley Miles (talk) 19:35, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Here's my proposed rewording for the footnote: The worldwide totals for cases, deaths and recoveries are taken from the John Hopkins University Coronavirus Resource Center. They are not sums of the figures for the listed countries and territories. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:37, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Looks good, thanks. Capewearer (talk) 04:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- Done. I've gone ahead and changed the footnote to read as such. Hopefully people will read it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:26, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2020
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France has been updated from JHU incorrectly again despite the French data being available at the French Government website listed in references. Needs reverting AGAIN. 195.213.40.149 (talk) 18:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Done by another editor, and I've removed a misleading comment next to the case totals figure. Capewearer (talk) 02:46, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Greece - Recovered Cases data is wrong and has no attributed source
Official data from Greece's government only tracks Total Cases and Total Deaths - covid19.gov.gr [1]
Google uses the data from this table to display the number of Recovered Cases in search results, but there is no source for where the current number comes from.
Ideally we would find a source for the current figure.
I suggest either changing Greece to "No Data" or returning back to the figure to 1374. Neither are good reflections of reality, but at least it's more consistent with other reports, like Johns Hopkins.
- I found a figure of 1374 Recovered Cases that Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center uses for their statistics - it's not clear where that figure comes from.
- Data can be found here: Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center-> Global Map -> look at Global Deaths columns and select Global Recovered[2].
- Greece has 1374 as of Sep 8, 2020.
- Data can be found here: Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center-> Global Map -> look at Global Deaths columns and select Global Recovered[2].
- This same figure of 1374 comes up again on Covid Checker by Sitata (Enter "Greece" and then click on COVID-19 stats)[3]. Once again, it's not clear where Sitata pulls their Recovered Cases data from.
- Of note is that the last time data was changed was on Apr 30, 2020 when the Recovered Cases changed from 577 to 1374.
- While the aforementioned references are for from ideal sources, it should be noted that even the Our World In Data datasets do NOT provide any data for Recovered Cases for Greece.
Anamatv (talk) 20:22, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
References
- Better not to echo an out-of-date figure, even if it is used by JHU. Is there any statement available from the Greek government that they would stop releasing recovery figures from a certain date (as with the UK and Netherlands), or commentary from reliable sources that they had done so (as with Brazil, for a time)? If so, then your suggestion of replacing the wrong figure with "no data" would be preferable. Capewearer (talk) 02:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Since there's been no objection, I'm going to WP:BOLDly replace the out-of-date recovery figure with "no data". Capewearer (talk) 09:27, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Source for the US data
Why does the table use a Chinese website as the source for the United States' numbers? That seems odd, especially since all the entries seem to use data from a domestic source.
Elliphant22 (talk) 04:19, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2020
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Hungary now has 11,825 COVID cases - see https://koronavirus.gov.hu/ 119.18.2.196 (talk) 07:14, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Done, thank you. Capewearer (talk) 07:46, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Updates for Bonaire and Sint Eustatius
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There are new figures for the Caribbean Netherlands available:
Bonaire: 16 positive, 1 dead, 8 recovered https://www.facebook.com/openbaarlichaamBonaire — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.90.241.89 (talk)
Sint Eustatius: 11 positive, 4 recovered https://www.facebook.com/euxgov
- Done, thank you. Capewearer (talk) 14:35, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
New cases Saint Pierre et Miquelon
New figures available:
In total 11 positive cases https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/pm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.90.241.89 (talk)
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