Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rerun van Pelt
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The result was keep. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:50, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG. Aside from the multiple issues the article has, I don’t know if the alternative of having the article get WP:BLOWITUP if it were to avoid being deleted would benefit or if it would not. Pahiy (talk) 03:32, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:01, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 15:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete only notable for being a reoccurring relative of Linus and Lucy. Not a main character, nor even a member of the original cast. Keeping this article would be akin to keeping an article on SpongeBob’s parents. Dronebogus (talk) 10:14, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not !voting on this because I have a huge conflict of interest in regards to Peanuts (I have recently done Peanuts-related work for the Schulz studio, and have for many years done Peanuts-related in various media and for various publishers that needed to be approved by the studio, and I publish non-Peanuts Schulz materials, in some cases under a license from the Schulz estate.) However, I do feel the need to address the claim just stated that Rerun is not a "main character". He very much is in the last few years of the strip. In the final full year of the strip (1999) for example, he appeared in 92 strips, almost always as the central character of that strip. He is also prominent in the animated specials of that era. He is the titular "I" in I Want a Dog for Christmas, Charlie Brown (2003) for which he is the human character on the DVD cover and on the title card, and the one being bullied in He's a Bully, Charlie Brown (not released until 2006, but begun by Schulz years before.) I realize that "main character" is not the same as "notable", so this is not a keep/delete argument, but I didn't think that that statement should go unchallenged once having been put forth. --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:43, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- I see now. Sorry, I’m not a huge Peanuts fan so I only remembered him from a side role in some random special that wasn’t part of the iconic Christmas-Easter-Halloween-Thanksgiving set and assumed he wasn’t a big character. Dronebogus (talk) 06:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not !voting on this because I have a huge conflict of interest in regards to Peanuts (I have recently done Peanuts-related work for the Schulz studio, and have for many years done Peanuts-related in various media and for various publishers that needed to be approved by the studio, and I publish non-Peanuts Schulz materials, in some cases under a license from the Schulz estate.) However, I do feel the need to address the claim just stated that Rerun is not a "main character". He very much is in the last few years of the strip. In the final full year of the strip (1999) for example, he appeared in 92 strips, almost always as the central character of that strip. He is also prominent in the animated specials of that era. He is the titular "I" in I Want a Dog for Christmas, Charlie Brown (2003) for which he is the human character on the DVD cover and on the title card, and the one being bullied in He's a Bully, Charlie Brown (not released until 2006, but begun by Schulz years before.) I realize that "main character" is not the same as "notable", so this is not a keep/delete argument, but I didn't think that that statement should go unchallenged once having been put forth. --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:43, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: As Nat Gertler says, Rerun was a major character in the 1990s, and has been discussed in interviews, Schulz biographies and academic writing about Peanuts. I just improved the article, and here are some of the sources that I used:
- Charles Schulz: Conversations, 1997 Comics Journal interview by Gary Groth, reprinted in book form by University Press of Mississippi (2000)
- The Art and Making of Peanuts Animation: Celebrating Fifty Years of Television Specials by Charles Solomon, Chronicle Books (2012)
- Peanuts and American Culture: Essays on Charles M. Schulz's Iconic Comic Strip ed by Peter W.Y. Lee, McFarland & Co (2019)
- The Comics of Charles Schulz: The Good Grief of Modern Life ed by Jared Gardner and Ian Gordon, University Press of Mississippi (2017)
- There is still some work to be done on the article, but this is enough to demonstrate notability. — Toughpigs (talk) 17:33, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Pretty obviously notable per the above two and WP:BEFORE not done; this at best will get redirected and won't be deleted. Nate • (chatter) 19:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Big in the 90s, his later diminished role is not a reason to delete. Pikavoom (talk) 05:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Toughpigs' comments. Aoba47 (talk) 02:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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