Talk:List of phobias
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Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2017
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Anuptaphobia- the fear of being single Firestorm888 (talk) 06:34, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- No source brought for this, so cannot add. Need source per WP:MEDRS. Jytdog (talk) 18:04, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Barophobia
After I removed the unreliable Cram101, barophobia is sourced to Campbell's Dictionary - which I gather from the discussion above is not considered sufficient. Barophobia appears in lists of phobias dating back at least to the 1970s, but as a real name for a real phobia in medicine I'm not finding much. PubMed draws a blank. Google Scholar tells us "Most bacteria are barophobic in that their growth is inhibited by pressure" - quite a different meaning. I did find G. Stanley Hall: A Study of Fears. The American Journal of Psychology, Vol. 8, No. 2 (Jan., 1897), pp. 147-249, which says "without any suggestion of a new morbid entity, it would be convenient to have a term like barophobia for the gravity fears". Full text available at http://www.jstor.org/stable/1410940, though I've not accessed it. Is this entry sufficiently attested? Fences&Windows 08:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
To editor Jytdog: I removed the phobia from the "B" list to the "G" list for the very reason that "barophobia" is at best an unnofficial phobia name; however, "gravity phobia" as described in the American Journal of Psychology source is an important phobia and an important addition to this list, in my humble opinion. Why don't you agree to find a way to keep the entry in the list? Is the removal of the entire entry the best solution? Paine Ellsworth put'r there 00:17, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- are there any good MEDRS refs for that? an 1897 article speculating that it would be useful and the school of visual arts, are not acceptable.... Jytdog (talk) 00:18, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) That source was for the entire entry and describes the phobia very well. As far as the unofficial "barophobia", that can be removed if it causes problems; however, the 1897 source found by Fences and windows shows that the phobia has been recognized and written about for a very long time. Paine Ellsworth put'r there 00:43, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- That source proposes "barophobia" as i noted in my edit note, and the only reference I found to the term in pubmed was to make fun of engineers' worries about injection devices (search result). Things get proposed from time to time in the history of medicine. This one clearly went no where and you are not bringing any refs to show it did. Jytdog (talk) 00:52, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) That source was for the entire entry and describes the phobia very well. As far as the unofficial "barophobia", that can be removed if it causes problems; however, the 1897 source found by Fences and windows shows that the phobia has been recognized and written about for a very long time. Paine Ellsworth put'r there 00:43, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- This no way an "important phobia". Its presence is only in various phobia lists. Also one lady started wearing bra because of fear of gravity. Also in several cases I see "fear of gravity" is used in contexts where actually is spoken about fear of falling. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:37, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- It's probably very important to those who have it and to those who treat it. And yes, it does appear to be associated with the fear of falling. Paine Ellsworth put'r there 00:43, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
important to those who have it
- no reliable evidence such people exist. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:31, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- It's probably very important to those who have it and to those who treat it. And yes, it does appear to be associated with the fear of falling. Paine Ellsworth put'r there 00:43, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- posting the quote from the 1897 ref here since it is so dead on accurate - the "fun with Greek" bullshit has apparently been going on for a long time. "Despite the symptoms common to all fears, and even despite the absurd tendency to give Greek names to objects feared (which, as Arndt says, would giveus such terms as klopsophobia-fear of thieves, triakaidekapho- bia- fear of the number 13, and following which the 298 things feared in our returns might each have its name), without any suggestion of a new morbid entity, it would be convenient to have a term like barophobia for the gravity fears, and elusesthesia for the group of falling sensations, and anakataesthesia for hovering, etc." I think IO will add this to the lead. Jytdog (talk) 00:55, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- and note that this quote specifically says : "without any suggestion of a new morbid entity". Jytdog (talk) 01:00, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2017
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Koumpounophobia - fear of buttons.
(http://www.fearof.net/fear-of-buttons-phobia-koumpounophobia/) Combirom2 (talk) 19:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: Sorry, this website is not a reliable source for medical information. K..phobia does appear in numerous "phobia lists" copied all over in internet, but no references to serious medical discussion of the "fear of buttons" have been provided yet. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:51, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced that simply because the term has not yet been found published in a "serious medical discussion" means it should not be listed in an encyclopedia article. Regardless of its origin or medical credentials, the term 'koumpounophobia' has appeared in mainstream media such as The Spectator (http://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/11/steve-jobss-button-phobia-has-shaped-the-modern-world/), Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/28/hannah-matthews-koumpounophobia-button-phobia_n_1635420.html), Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3075950/I-m-terrified-buttons-s-no-laughing-matter-says-Kate-Battersby-Poppy-Delevingne-Steve-Jobs-agree.html), etc. and is in public use (e.g. Ripley's (http://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/tag/koumpounophobia/)). It is now clearly far more than merely an ephemeral internet meme.
- Since the term has been recognised in mainstream media for several years, it is also worthy of recognition in an encyclopedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Combirom2 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- The term also appears in a peer-reviewed article by Lisa Fritscher, a specialist with a degree in Psychology: https://www.verywell.com/koumpounophobia-2671825 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Combirom2 (talk • contribs) 17:17, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Combirom2: "Lisa holds a BA in Psychology" and an anonymously reviewed pop culture article. Not exactly a high quality source. --NeilN talk to me 17:36, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed. Nevertheless, as indicated by its use in mainstream media and elsewhere, the term has clearly gained popular currency for naming a specific phobia. I doubt that several other names for phobias began their life in medical journals either. I believe an encyclopedia should reflect popular terminology in addition to that sanctioned by academia - even if it is qualified by a "popular usage" caveat in brackets.
- In addition to being mentioned in many publications listed in Wiktionary (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:koumpounophobia#English), the term "koumpounophobia" is also defined and used in Julia Russell et al, "Cambridge International AS and A Level Psychology Coursebook", Cambridge University Press, 2016, p.144. I think that easily qualifies as a reliable source!
- The Cambridge ref [1] looks half-decent, especially as the text refers to a case study covered in the book. If a separate article was written about Koumpounophobia then perhaps it could be included here. Pinging Jytdog for their thoughts. --NeilN talk to me 19:28, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. NeilN talk to me 17:37, 2 March 2017 (UTC)- thank goodness a decent ref was finally provided. (daily mail, oy.) based on that ref it would be OK to list it. things don't need to have a separate article to be listed here. Jytdog (talk) 19:38, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Jytdog. Added. --NeilN talk to me 19:47, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, NeilN and Jytdog. Haha yes, I'd agree about the Daily Mail but koumpounophobia clearly IS a genuinely accepted term in the Psychology profession - and even the tabloid has been vindicated in this particular case! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Combirom2 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- thank goodness a decent ref was finally provided. (daily mail, oy.) based on that ref it would be OK to list it. things don't need to have a separate article to be listed here. Jytdog (talk) 19:38, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2017
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Pittakionaphobia, a fear of stickers, such as one might find on fruits in a supermarket or school as a reward for good work. n.b This fear does not mean a fear of sticky objects, only actual stickers. 86.150.68.236 (talk) 16:58, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:46, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2017
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- Shellophobia – fear of powershell scripts
- Scriptophobia – fear of scripts backezeeartgh (talk) 17:31, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also, these "phobias" appear to be recent non-notable inventions. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:13, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 June 2017
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You have missed some phobias such as Arithmophobia (fear of numbers) Miahodge (talk) 06:29, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 14:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2017
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Please add Theophobia, as the fear of religion or gods, to the list. 74.191.67.11 (talk) 18:07, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Nihlus 18:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Enochlophobia?
It redirects to "Ochlophobia" and does not even mention the 'en' -starting version. I suppose ochlophobia is the right one, but have no proof outside wikipedia. 212.50.203.198 (talk) 12:25, 5 November 2017 (UTC)