Talk:Marcian Hoff

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Anyone knows why did he lose his Intel Fellow title in 1983?

competition at age 15

The following line was added by 152.163.100.5. It is not valid English, has no context, and is not sourced.

    He won a competition when he was 15 to Washington DC.

Sheldrake 21:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comma before Jr.

Hello fellow editors! This is about this edit and its revert.

I was involved in the most recent round of the years-long debate over this comma. The current community consensus is that that comma is a style element—in other words, there is no "correct" usage of it for any individual, only varying styles used by different sources. English Wikipedia's house style is no-comma.

As a compromise, the community decided that the comma can be used in cases where (1) the living subject individual can be shown to clearly and consistently prefer the comma, -OR- (2) all reliable sources include the comma. That's all, not most. I didn't have to look very far to find these two reliable sources that omit the comma:

http://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/01/business/atari-hires-inventor-of-microprocessor-chip.html?mcubz=0

https://books.google.com/books?id=UUbB3d2UnaAC&pg=PA390&lpg=PA390&dq=marcian+hoff +jr&source=bl&ots=SdjZPbZP3d&sig=nkRViLlvsLCpSYWNlgOp2G84KD8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjH4OCjiMTWAhUO5WMKHRaIDpU4ChDoAQg3MAQ#v=onepage&q=marcian%20hoff%20jr&f=false

It's a high bar, and it was intended to be high. I'm not aware of a case that has cleared it, and I and others have already modified thousands of articles to remove it. Unless someone wishes to claim that the The New York Times is not a reliable source, or can show that Mr. Hoff clearly and consistently uses the comma, there is nothing to discuss here, and I'm removing the comma again. ―Mandruss ☎ 00:59, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]