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Inventor? Engineer?

In no way to downplay Musk's achievements, but the characterisations that he is an inventor and engineer in the lede are supported by very weak sources. Can we get more reliable sources on exactly what he does on the practical level. From everything I can find he is more of a engineering aware entrepreneur, rather than an inventor or engineer himself. 92.111.0.82 (talk) 12:59, 12 February 2016 (UTC) If he is not an engineer you can see this religius nuts get him his degree just because he have money what a degenerate world we live in full of shity people.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.58.23.240 (talk) 03:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Would appearing on a patent that has been issued by the USPTO count as a reliable source for the claim that Elon Musk is considered an inventor? Specifically, he is listed as the inventor of the door design used on the Tesla Model-X. I agree that there could be some better sources, but from people I've talked to or had other communications with regarding his role in his companies, he very much is involved with the engineering of the products he has been involved with too. Mr. Musk has used the title CTO (Chief Technical Officer) in addition to his CEO (Chief Executive Officer) to describe his position at both SpaceX and in the past at Tesla. These claims in the lede are very much substantiated. --Robert Horning (talk) 14:17, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
He does not hold a degree in engineering, therefore he cannot be called an engineer. Engineering is a legally regulated profession and one must be registered or licensed as a professional engineer (PE, P.Eng) to call oneself an engineer (Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering#United_States). 66.130.132.86 (talk) 19:44, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You are mistaken about engineers being legally required to be "registered or licensed" in the United States, and the Wikipedia page you link does not claim this. That being said, I fully agree that calling him an engineer is inappropriate because he has no such degree. Since his degree is in physics, that would make him a physicist, though a meagerly educated one. JustinTime55 (talk) 20:22, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
However, that being said, if we actually read the cited source, written by an ASME engineer, we find a compelling argument for calling him an engineer, based on how he has applied his physics education. This makes the degree look like nit-picking. JustinTime55 (talk) 20:31, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
People do sometimes get university degrees in physics and subsequently hire into jobs as engineers. I personally worked side-by-side with one gentleman who did exactly that. A well-known example is Mike Judge (producer of Beavis and Butt-Head). Engineers are people who DO engineering. My experience also includes working with several engineers who did their jobs well even having no university degrees at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.223.130.32 (talk) 00:01, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

His father was an electro-mechanical engineer so he grew up surrounded by engineering. To claim that somebody must have a degree to qualify as an engineer is false. By that definition Leonardo Da Vinci and the Wright Brothers were not engineers. 1.132.96.14 (talk) 23:37, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Which is completely correct, they weren't engineers. This is not the way it works, you have to get a degree. MrEnglish (talk) 23:39, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the page still say that Musk is an engineer? From his education record it appears he doesn't have an engineering degree. Please someone correct this; we have to save the reputation of engineers, it seems.84.188.250.193 (talk) 07:37, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2016

Please change 83th to 83rd in the second paragraph. He's 94th now anyway: http://www.forbes.com/profile/elon-musk/?list=billionaires.

Ssslow (talk) 10:28, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done @Ssslow: Thank you! st170etalk 13:27, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

misquotations issue on Code Conference 2016

Hi there, I'm newby and cannot fix Elon's page myself as semi-protected. Want to raise issue, that e.g. recently (I only came upon news today) he was misquoted about simulation hypothesis, I watched video and some words was omitted, like MAYBE with resulting headlines news FIRMLY BELIEVES (Elon Musk says he firmly believes reality is a simulation created by a superintelligence).

I have suspicion that earlier quotes mentioned on wiki page maybe misquotes too by the way. Can volunteer to check.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/we-dont-live-in-a-simulation http://motherboard.vice.com/read/elon-musk-simulated-universe-hypothesis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KK_kzrJPS8)

There is s possibility of cause that the video was digitally edited. or his mind was edited, in a sim all is possible. Still, what other wiki contributors think?

P.S. when I create new question on stackoverflow, system shows me most relevant questions and I often not create mine. On wiki, how to check if the subject (like misquotations) was raised already? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexM202020 (talk • contribs) 10:59, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Minor spelling error

It should read "although" instead of "althongh".

141.35.40.136: Thank you, now fixed! Appable (talk) 16:54, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

LA Times Article

The user Heuh0 claims the following: "The 'article' was a journalistic piece by one of the largest media outlets, it REVEALED not claimed numbers and points unseen before and therefore noteworthy" -- there was nothing "revealed" in that article. Everything mentioned in the article is public information that is available in Tesla and SolarCity's publicly available financial and press reports. The article took information that was already available, sensationalized it, and used it to villify the corporations. The government invests in a lot of companies through a variety of outlets; did the article mention that United Launch Alliance of Lockheed/Boeing gets more than $1 billion in annual subsidy by the government just to stay in business? No, instead they focused on the few million that Texas and other states is investing in SpaceX's launch sites which they hope will benefit the state in the future. This is because the article is an extremely biased work of journalism; it lies by omission. Frankly it shouldn't be mentioned at all, but if it IS going to be mentioned, it's just neither stylistic nor readable nor reasonable to put such an enormous paragraph in-- it does not merit that much text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aerovistae (talk • contribs) 20:35, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Lithium third most abundant element in universe."- Elon Musk

Even though I like this guy I can't take him spreading disinformation like this:
youtu.be/_GBnJNLoBuw?t=22m12s
I think it's a significant point to be made that he can make serious mistakes.
Lithium is the 44th most abundant element in this galaxy and 33rd in the Earth's crust.
Not third; Oxygen is third, ie. Water is the most abundant mixed atom molecule.
74.216.15.109 (talk) 08:00, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/elon-musk-debunks-scare-stories-about-a-shortage-of-lithium/

74.216.15.109 (talk) 08:12, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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