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Please slow down
Thank you for your WP:BOLD edits on Donald Trump, but please slow down and discuss major changes on the article talk page. You removed content that was crafted by several other editors, including removing sources. You also introduced grammatical errors. Your edits are contentious, so it's important that you seek consensus on the talk page, as conspicuously noted in the edit notice each time you have edited the article. Thank you.- MrX 00:47, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
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Hillary Clinton
Just in case you weren't aware that today is your lucky day, another editor received a 1-week block today for disregarding the discretionary sanctions notices (talk page and edit notice) at Hillary Clinton. Your edit was quite obviously "potentially contentious", and it had no consensus at all, let alone the "firm" consensus required by both notices. Please don't do that again. ―Mandruss ☎ 01:32, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I note that the above is remarkably similar to comments by MrX on 29 March, farther above. It appears you didn't take them to heart. ―Mandruss ☎ 02:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Why
Hi, ThiefOfBagdad. Care to explain this edit? Ping me back. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk}
16:48, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Pretty sure in American English, it's mugshot, not mug shot. And as this is an American attack and mostly Americans will look at this page, it shouldn't be in British English.
Thank you for contribution to 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting. However, the image that you added is of the perpetrator of the attacks. While tragic as the incident is, unfree images of perpetrators have been deleted per FFD nominations. In fact, the article is not about the perpetrator mainly but the incident, so omitting the image doesn't affect readers' understanding of the incident per WP:NFCC. If a source that you can provide proves that the image is free to use, maybe I'll allow the image to be kept. Otherwise, if unfree, maybe it'll be deleted soon. --George Ho (talk) 18:56, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
I see that you copied to Commons, but I'm worried that the image will be deleted there as copyrighted. If that happens, shall I request a speedy deletion then? --George Ho (talk) 00:55, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- Sure, but please don't get it removed from Commons. Thanks! ThiefOfBagdad (talk) 06:32, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
June 2016
Hello, I'm ATS. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! 🖖ATS / Talk 06:45, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. This move (which you falsely marked as minor) was disruptive. There is no consensus for such a move. I've suggested before that you slow down, so I'm making this a level 3 warning. This type of reckless editing on highly-visible articles is likely to get you blocked if you aren't more careful in the future. - MrX 14:36, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Donald Trump. Doc talk 08:17, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused. Where did I do original research? Everything is provided in the sources given? ThiefOfBagdad (talk) 08:19, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- You're clearly an account here to edit controversial recent topics. You've got barely any edits, and have less to lose by reverting. I think you're full of it. You can't just write stuff like this[5] unchallenged, without discussion, on a sanctioned article. I hope someone reverts you soon. Doc talk 08:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- What? I've been here for almost half a year and I've been editing all sorts of articles, not just "controversial" articles. I've been a major editor for List of female United States presidential and vice-presidential candidates for example. I'm simply interested in elections and everything surounding it. And I'm not doing anything that hasn't been discussed before. I've already discussed in archives of TALK that major sections should be shortened and made less biased, as a large portion of the article seems to be majorly critical of Trump, largely relying on sources close to the Clinton campaign. I'm just trying to make it more neutral, and I'm definitely not "full of it." Frankly, you're being very rude to me. ThiefOfBagdad (talk) 08:32, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- I was rude. I apologize for that. Doc talk 23:35, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Aw, that means a lot :) Thank you and God bless you!! --ThiefOfBagdad (talk) 09:22, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- You're clearly an account here to edit controversial recent topics. You've got barely any edits, and have less to lose by reverting. I think you're full of it. You can't just write stuff like this[5] unchallenged, without discussion, on a sanctioned article. I hope someone reverts you soon. Doc talk 08:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused. Where did I do original research? Everything is provided in the sources given? ThiefOfBagdad (talk) 08:19, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
List of female United States presidential and vice-presidential candidates votes cut off limit on chart
OK, after going through the list I can see why you might want to set the cutoff at 30,000 votes. I'd prefer a cutoff at 5 digits (10,000) but that means an asterix explaining why Jeness and Evelyn Reed both ran for president on the Socialist Workers Party ticket instead of there being a single nominee (I'm still confused by it). 20,000 guarantees that the Workers World Party most successful woman gets in the chart but it still seems wrong that Stein, who is polling at 6% nationally, isn't on the chart if 20k is the cutoff (Sanders, likely got most of her primary votes as Greens switched to Democratic ballots). It would be nice to have a picture of all the women that received 10k+ votes. 97.85.173.38 (talk) 10:26, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Having a picture is very hard to do though. And there are definitely a lot of women who have gotten over 10,000 votes. There had be some kind of cutoff, and 30,000 seems to work for now. Don't tell me this is all just to include Jill Stein. ThiefOfBagdad (talk) 16:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- All the women that received over 10,000 that are in the article are listed in the chart. You know of more that are not in the article? 97.85.173.38 (talk) 10:22, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- Having a picture is very hard to do though. And there are definitely a lot of women who have gotten over 10,000 votes. There had be some kind of cutoff, and 30,000 seems to work for now. Don't tell me this is all just to include Jill Stein. ThiefOfBagdad (talk) 16:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Slow down at Donald Trump
Please don't remove huge amounts of sourced content from a highly watched article without first having a discussion on the article's talk page. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 11:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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Hi. I see that you are relatively new (newer even than I am) and that you were jumped by another editor for what appears to have been a good-faith effort to add a list of Islamist terrorist attacks in developed countries. It takes a while to find your sealegs. What I want to say is that this is a place where tone, language, and following rules can outweigh good intentions. Moreover, some editors (skilled wikilawyers) wield disingenuousness and dissimulation as a shield for aggressive POV editing. It is easy to get blocked from the project by editors who simply dislike your politics - but who use some rules-related pretext to ban you. I hope that, rather than allowing this to discourage you, you figure out the local etiquette and continue to contribute. Cheers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 04:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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ThiefOfBagdad, thanks for your interest in improving this article. But you can't do it the way you are doing it - imposing your own opinion, over-ruling other people and ignoring consensus. That article is under Discretionary sanctions, which specifically forbid things like reverting more than once, or restoring controversial material without consensus. There is a discussion about your changes at the article's talk page. Please join it, and don't keep insisting on your own version of things in the meantime. That can be a blockable offense at an article under Discretionary Sanctions. Thanks, and see you at the talk page. --MelanieN (talk) 21:00, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Topic Ban
Hi TheifOfBagdad, I was just heading over to give you a stern warning about edit warring on Donald Trump, but upon arriving here I found that User:MelanieN had already advised you of the WP:1RR discretionary sanctions, just 24 hours before your latest 1RR violation. Upon digging deeper I found a much longer history of what looks like tendentious editing. For instance, looking at only the past 3 days I found 5 edits of yours aimed at removing mention of Trump's "Muslim ban". [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] I also noticed that about half of your edits are related to Donald Trump and the 2016 election. Instead of blocking you, which would remove your ability to edit all articles, I'm going to impose a temporary 6-month topic ban on articles and pages related to the 2016 US Presidential election. I hope that you can use this time to branch out and gain editing experience in other areas, and that after the ban expires you can return to editing articles about US politics with a fresh perspective.
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