Talk:Dot Hacker
CSD 08:21, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Rationale
Per WP:MUSIC, an ensemble is notable when: "Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles." The band's only notable member is Josh Klinghoffer. Also, the band does not have substantial news coverage to satisfy WP:N. avs5221 (talk) 08:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yes but not being notable does not make it speedy deletable by WP:CSD#A7. I would suggest changing it to a redirect to an appropriate target or if you think it is not useful as a redirect and wish to delete it then take it to WP:AfD. Polargeo (talk) 14:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
"Is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles" -- 1. Red Hot Chili Peppers - 2. Gnarls Barkley -- Does that count? My personal opinion is that wikipedia article deletion criteria are interpreted too strictly much of the time, but, I'm curious what a hard-liner will think of the argument that both RHCP and Gnarls being associated with Dot Hacker qualifies as evidence of notability according to the guidelines. Consider the question in light of the phrase ". . . These are merely rules of thumb used by some editors . . . ". Using this as a "rule of thumb" I would argue it's significant that Klinghoffer is associated with both Gnarls and the Chili Peppers, even though the other bandmates are not associated with the Chili Peppers. Klinghoffer is also the band's front-man and guitarist. The project would very clearly adhere to the rule of thumb if it were marketed as Josh Klinghoffer solo project rather than "Dot Hacker", but, how would having a different name change the band's notability? I propose that given Klinghoffer's front-and-center role in this band, the case that he has "been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles" can be applied to the notability of the entire band.