Talk:Murder of Nick Corwin

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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 02:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that this article may be the vulnerable to point of view editing suggesting that Dann's actions were gender-based (directed against men). I have just sourced this article and in doing so have removed evidence which (erroneously) suggests that only men and boys were targetted. As well as information about a 'note' that was misquoted and ascribed to the wrong attempted poisoning in an apparent attempt to strengthen the claim to gender-based violence. Since I can't find any reliable source that views this as an example of gender-based violence, it seems like a case WP:SYNT so let's be careful about this article and be sure to source any information we add! --Slp1 01:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find any reference to girls or women being attacked by Dann. Can you provide references? As far as I can tell, all of her victims were male, and only men appeared to be targeted. There has been public discussion about this being gender-based (most notably Warren Farrell's book) indicating that it was a sex based attack. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.255.99 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. The place to start would be the contemporaneous newspaper articles cited in the article. Just follow the links. They make clear that two girls (named) were shot (one very seriously). Dann also sent poisoned drinks to 6 families (hard to be gender-specific there!) and a girl was poisoned as a result. She also set fire to a house where she babysat in which a mother and her two kids were in the house.

Her victims were certainly not all male. And I gather from reading the Amazon reviews of Farrell's book that others have criticized him on Dann saying that he was "sloppy with the facts" and that "he makes wild charges and yet doesn't get close to the facts". See for yourself at [1]. I gotta say that having gone back to the extensive newspaper reports of the time I agree with the criticism! Slp1 22:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

from your little sisters

I re-added a cite from Chicago Tribune that included the note to the ATOs. The note is similar to the note reported on by a Toronto paper about juice boxes left for families, but it doesn't make as much sense. I think the CT is more likely to get it right, and they report two notes - the one I added and another one similar to the Toronto paper but left at the Psi Upsilon house, not at some family homes. Below is a portion quoted from the Tribune:

During her rounds of the affluent northern surburbs, Dann left packages on porches or stuffed them in mailboxes, Timm said. They contained cereal treats, popcorn and pouches of orange drink.

Greg McCullough, a member of Alpha Tau Omega fraternity, ate a cereal treat from a paper plate left on the fraternity's porch early Friday, fraternity members said.

"To the ATOs, from your little sisters," said a note attached to the package. On Saturday, McCullough was called away from a Big Ten track meet to get emergency tests, said Bruce Madej, the university's sports information director.

At the Psi Upsilon house, a similar package was left with the note "Enjoy, from your little sisters," fraternity members there said.

Next to the snacks was a plastic chemical bottle that said 'arsenic.' When they found the packages Friday morning, "We thought it was a joke," said Chuck Friedman, a member there.

cite: Ray Gibson and Linnet Myers Wes Smith, SCHOOL KILLER LEFT A TRAIL OF POISON FRATERNITIES, HOMES RECEIVE TAINTED FOOD Chicago Tribune May 22, 1988. pg. 1.

--csloat 22:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

It would be good to have some more photos for this article, but I can't find suitable public domain examples. If anybody in the area was able to take some pictures of places mentioned that would be great. I was thinking about the exterior Hubbard Woods and Ravinia Elementary in Highland Park as well as Nick Corwin Park, but maybe there are other ideas? Slp1 21:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Small change relating to ex bf and husband

As you read through the article, it refers to Laurie's husband (eventual ex-husband) and then to an unnamed ex-boyfriend and his wife. It is not till the bottom of the page that it states these are two separate people, and the wording is a bit unclear. I'm changing the first instance of the ex boyfriend to "An ex-boyfriend" instead of "her ex-boyfriend" to differentiate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maladroitmortal (talk • contribs) 20:59, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Maladroitmortal! It's always helpful to have fresh eyes read articles and clarify the things that aren't clear. --Slp1 (talk) 23:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]