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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Muhandes (talk | contribs) at 17:25, 24 August 2024 (Reverted edit by B-bot (talk) to last version by Lowercase sigmabot III). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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YOU are the disruptive editor

The RIAA certifies comolete sales, using independent auditors. Those "sales figures" you cite use a sample of actual sales. In every case, they are also dated years, in some cases decades, ago. If one person buys 1 copy today your "sales figures" are instantly obsolete. Of course they were incomplete when they were published. The only authority that audits total sales figures are RIAA Certifications. If you want to use a figure greater than RIAA Certifications, that's one thing. But your insistence on several-years-old sample figures that are lower than RIAA Certifications is the very definition of "disruptive editing". 197.87.135.139 (talk) 15:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for finally agreeing to discuss the matter. I don't think our engagement thus far has been civil and I certainly admit to my part of it, but I have been trying to communicate with you over and over and you kept reverting my messages without any comment. I am going to assume that you are really interested in conversation this time, so I will go into a little more detail.
In the pre-digital era, RIAA certifications were based on shipments after returns, not on actual sales as you suggest. Conversely, Nielsen SoundScan figures were based on sales. This disparity has always been a source of criticism, leading to the consensus to include sales figures when available, even if they are lower than the certified amount. With the advent of album-equivalent units, this issue has become much less significant, but it still applies to certifications made before that period.
Now, you may choose to respect the consensus or go against it, but at least I know I made the effort to explain what is customary. I am currently on hiatus from Wikipedia due to health issues and only returned to assist with some template editing upon request. I'm not sure why I bothered with your edits, but I certainly won't be doing so anymore. Have fun editing. Muhandes (talk) 16:20, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Where was this consensus reached? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.87.135.139 (talk) 07:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's a de facto consensus which has already been in place when I created the certification template in 2011, and has been so ever since. Muhandes (talk) 07:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Subject

Hi, I am looking for someone who I believe has extensive and comprehensive coverage, backed by reliable sources.

Could you please take a look? I suspect they might have a page here. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Ilovemovies5 (talk) 08:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ilovemovies5: I'm not sure what exactly you are requesting of me but I'll try to help. If you are trying to create an article about Ali Al Suleiman again, then you are our of luck. There were several attempts and they all failed because the subject lacked notability. So many attempts, in fact, that there is very wide consensus that the article should be blocked from creation. There was also sock-puppetry, block evasion and other disruptive actions involved. At this point, I wouldn't touch this subject with a ten foot pole. Muhandes (talk) 09:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Muhandes what is your idea here and thank you Ilovemovies5 (talk) 09:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think Muhandes made their thoughts pretty clear. And please don't go around spamming everyone's talk pages with this same stuff. Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ilovemovies5: I was giving you extra good faith and being overly polite, but I do identify a sock when they quack like one. As DoubleGrazing said for all of us, please stop wasting the community's time. Find a community which truly appreciates you, or better yet, find some other way to achieve greatness. As I recently discovered, life is too short to waste time on nonsense. Muhandes (talk) 09:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Email

With regard to the email you sent me, I have confirmed the IP address you inquired about is a proxy. Specifically, LUMINATI_PROXY (RESIDENTIAL). I'm happy to extend WP:IPBE to you if you wish. Just let me know! --Yamla (talk) 11:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yamla. I am surprised to hear it. Please do extend an IPBE for me. Thanks in advance. Muhandes (talk) 11:40, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Happy editing! --Yamla (talk) 11:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP block exempt

I have granted your account an exemption from IP blocking. This will allow you to edit the English Wikipedia through full blocks affecting your IP address when you are logged in.

Please read the page Wikipedia:IP block exemption carefully, especially the section on IP block exemption conditions. Inappropriate usage of this user right may result in revocation. I hope this will enhance your editing, and allow you to edit successfully and without disruption. Yamla (talk) 11:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]