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May 9
Article on Australian politician Moira Deeming showing clear bias towards her.
The birgraphy in Wikipedia about Moira Deeming contains a paragraph which has clear bias and in essence falsehoods about a so called anti trans rally that was held. It was NOT an anti trans rally but was a rally in support of womwen's safety and was called "Let Women Speak". There are arguably a majority of people who do believe that biological women's spaces should be sacrosanct and clear evidence exists of this being abused unfortunately by individuals by the mere claim that they identify as a women. There are also serious concerns about women's safety and fairness, in women's sports. Now no matter how strongly you feel about this, I was always told Wikipedia is a space open to all points of view, as long as they are expressed in an acceptable non abusive way. Is this the case? Or is Wikipedia yet another media outlet which only allows one narrative to be expressed? It amazes me how people will refuse to allow debate. That in itself, implies their argument must be very weak? 192.28.122.75 (talk) 00:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I suspect you mean a bias against her, rather than towards her. HiLo48 (talk) 01:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- In my ideolect 'towards' (in this context) means 'regarding' with a hint of 'against'; it certainly doesn't imply 'in favour of'. YMMD. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.175.176 (talk) 07:56, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. The best place to bring up concerns with how the article is written is on the Talk page for that article. Mokadoshi (talk) 01:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
WIP template
I remember there are WIP templates for articles; e.g. when you want to perform many edits or major overhaul on a specific article, you add WIP template to it. Template name? Thanks for the help. --Mann Mann (talk) 03:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- {{Under construction}} may be what you're looking for. Best, ayakanaa ( t · c ) 03:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mann Mann and Ayakanaa: {{In use}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Inter-language Links to Image Files
I want to include a picture in an English Wikipedia article based on an image file from another Wikipedia server for a different language. How do you make an inter-language link to an image file within the standard image file display coding? The following is the coding for one of the images I have attempted:
File Name: Tiedosto:Ttr europe.jpg
Wikipedia Server: Finnish (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiedosto:Ttr_europe.jpg)
Attempted Coding: [[File::fi:Tiedosto:Ttr europe.jpg|thumb|right|The box cover of the European version of the ''Ticket to Ride'' board (Europe 1917).]]
I have tried a few variations in the coding, but it always fails to produce an image. I have also searched the image coding pages in Wikipedia help, but I cannot find where this issue is discussed. Can anyone help me? SMargan 04:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Images must be hosted on the local wiki itself or on the central Commons wiki. Files hosted by one language's Wikipedia site cannot be displayed in articles on another language's Wikipedia site. That file is not free, so it's forbidden to upload it to commons and it's forbidden by some languages' site policies to use it at all (one of the reasons to prohibit one language from using another's files). If you have a legitimate WP:Non-free content use-case, you could upload it here to enwiki for use here on enwiki. DMacks (talk) 04:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @DMacks (talk) - Thanks for the heads-up on that! I am really unsure about how the image system works. Indeed, I thought all the Wikipedia servers for each language were part of the same organisation, therefore, the content was usable by everyone when uploaded ... it seems not. In that case, can I post a request to the account of the person who uploaded the image on the foreign language Wikipedia server, and use that as a permission for uploading the image to Wiki-commons or the English Wikipedia server myself? I am a little puzzled as to why this process has not been accounted for by Wikipedia, i.e. why does Wikipedia not ask the uploading account for permission for any account to use the image when uploading it, or at least have a easy way of another user to ask for such permission etc. SMargan (talk) 14:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- The licensing of this file (based on who actually owns its creative content) does not allow anyone to upload it anywhere. Some *wiki allow uploading of this sort of "non-free" content in certain cases (which might vary site-to-site), and others do not. So any *wiki that wants the file needs to handle it locally to make sure it complies with the local rules. The uploader does not ever have to grant special permission directly: whatever they upload is documented as part of the upload process, and in this case they don't even own the image enough to grant you permission anyway. So you are allowed to download the file from one *wiki and re-upload it to another *wiki as long as it complies with that second *wiki's rules. But as uploader to that second *wiki, it's up to you to make sure you are following that one's rules, rather than having the original uploader have to know every different site's rules. The goal is to avoid supporting license violations as much as possible but allow anyone who knows the rules to follow them. If the file actually had an open license, the wiki platform makes it much easier to share and use among different sites, because that's one of the goals of open licensing. DMacks (talk) 14:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @DMacks (talk) - Thanks for the heads-up on that! I am really unsure about how the image system works. Indeed, I thought all the Wikipedia servers for each language were part of the same organisation, therefore, the content was usable by everyone when uploaded ... it seems not. In that case, can I post a request to the account of the person who uploaded the image on the foreign language Wikipedia server, and use that as a permission for uploading the image to Wiki-commons or the English Wikipedia server myself? I am a little puzzled as to why this process has not been accounted for by Wikipedia, i.e. why does Wikipedia not ask the uploading account for permission for any account to use the image when uploading it, or at least have a easy way of another user to ask for such permission etc. SMargan (talk) 14:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
How to flag what seems an irrelevant section of an article
I'm editing an article on Mackinac Island and was quite surprised to find several lengthy paragraphs about Masonry there. Because I'm not aware of any particular connection of Mackinac with Masonry, and the discussion seems irrelevant to all but those interested in Masonry overall, I'd like to flag those paragraphs for the author or other editors to consider the question of relevance WITHIN the article, sort of like a CITATION NEEDED, rather than at the Talk are of the article.
Is there a way to do that, or would that be frowned on rather than going to Talk? Augnablik (talk) 06:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- If the material is uncited to a reliable source, you are free to simply remove it, as the burden is on those adding material to add a source if challenged.
- The material on Mackinac Island is cited (though arguably the primary newspaper sources are not reliable here), so to directly answer your question, there actually is an inline maintenance template that does precisely what you want:
{{Undue weight inline}}
—there's also a box listing similar tags on that page. Cheers!Remsense诉 07:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC)- @Remsense and @Tenryuu, because you both gave me different but seemingly good options, could you both weigh in as to why you believe yours is the better of the two recommendations? Augnablik (talk) 10:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Both seem fine approaches that achieve the same result, it's largely personal preference. An inline tag would be most clearly suited for passages of a few sentences, while a banner like Tenryuu posted is suited when most or all of a section has the same problem. Remsense诉 10:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Aha. Helpful. Augnablik (talk) 11:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Both seem fine approaches that achieve the same result, it's largely personal preference. An inline tag would be most clearly suited for passages of a few sentences, while a banner like Tenryuu posted is suited when most or all of a section has the same problem. Remsense诉 10:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Remsense and @Tenryuu, because you both gave me different but seemingly good options, could you both weigh in as to why you believe yours is the better of the two recommendations? Augnablik (talk) 10:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- If for some reason you want to leave it on there for the time being to discuss, there's the maintenance tag {{off topic}} that might be useful. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Remsense and @Tenryuu, because you both gave me different but seemingly good options, could you both weigh in as to why you believe yours is the better of the two recommendations? Augnablik (talk) 10:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think Remsense's suggestion is just as valid as mine and neither is better than the other; I just think if there's as much off-topic content as you say there is, the template I suggested would be helpful. Everything else is up to your editorial discretion. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well, it’s not like the whole section is off, just those two lengthy paragraphs — and they’re not right next to each other. Augnablik (talk) 15:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think Remsense's suggestion is just as valid as mine and neither is better than the other; I just think if there's as much off-topic content as you say there is, the template I suggested would be helpful. Everything else is up to your editorial discretion. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Remsense and @Tenryuu, because you both gave me different but seemingly good options, could you both weigh in as to why you believe yours is the better of the two recommendations? Augnablik (talk) 10:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
How to create a business Wikipedia page?
How to create a business Wikipedia page? UnnatighoshHCL (talk) 08:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @UnnatighoshHCL Short answer: You probably can't. Longer answer: WP:PAID, WP:NCORP, WP:BACKWARD and WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Hope this helps some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! I have made some edits and they have been rejected. Can I now make the changes in the same using Paid contribution? UnnatighoshHCL (talk) 09:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @UnnatighoshHCL, you can make edit requests on the talk pages. For instance, the HCL Commerce talk page is at Talk:HCL Commerce. To make an edit request, you can either read and follow the instructions at {{Edit COI}} or use the Edit request wizard, whichever is easier for you. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 13:56, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! I have made some edits and they have been rejected. Can I now make the changes in the same using Paid contribution? UnnatighoshHCL (talk) 09:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @UnnatighoshHCL: You have already been provided with ample advice on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:23, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for your advice. UnnatighoshHCL (talk) 14:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Help desk archiving
It seems the bot who archives this page does so per age of thread, not paying any attention to activity, so a very ongoing discussion sometimes gets archived. This is not what I expect on a page like this in this day and age, so if someone good at archiving wants to look into that, please do. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Gråbergs Gråa Sång, try asking at User talk:Scs. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- This question comes up from time to time. It's probably more appropriate for the Help Desk talk page, where it was last discussed this past January. You will probably want to review that discussion. In brief: the current bot has no capability to archive by anything other than fixed ages, but there are other archiving bots which behave differently, and there's no reason this page couldn't switch to another archiving strategy using one of those other bots, if consensus to do so were achieved. —scs (talk) 20:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Article Deletion
The article written by me for a 60 year old company has been deleted, the citation provided were all reliable and neutral. How can I raise a concern to reinstate the article. Here is the link to the article Akhare 2024 (talk) 08:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Akhare 2024 So you linked to the deletion discussion, not the deleted article itself. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about the existence of a company, what it does, and its offerings; Wikipedia articles about companies must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. "Significant coverage" is that which goes beyond just telling of the existence of the company and what it does and goes into detail about what the sources see as important/significant/influential about the company. Being a 60 year old company in and of itself does not contribute notability, and a lack of notability is why the discussion reached a consensus that deletion was appropriate.
- Unless you can show that a gross error in policy was made- which seems unlikely- there isn't much you can do about this. If you are able to address the concerns of the deletion discussion and offer sources that show this company is notable, you may create and submit a draft for an independent review via the Article Wizard. I fear that as a marketing agent for this company you are too close to it, or too much of a marketer, to be able to write as Wikipedia requires. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I would suggest that you read WP:BOSS and have those at the company who hired you read it too. 331dot (talk) 08:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing this, I have already mentioned COI. And all my citations were from independent reliable source. Is there a way to re-evaluate the deletion and get the article back up again? Akhare 2024 (talk) 10:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- It is very unlikely that your article was deleted in error, unfortunately. Please ensure you're familiar with how we define reliability and neutral point of view before making additional contributions to the encyclopedia. I recommend following 331dot's advice. Remsense诉 10:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note that one of the contributors to the deletion discussion, @Helpful Raccoon, said specifically
I can't find any independent sources that provide in-depth coverage
. You say that the sources you provided were reliable and neutral, which sounds as if you have missed the third requirement, that of significant coverage. ColinFine (talk) 15:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC) - In addition to what the others said, journalism that is entirely based on one of the company's press releases is not independent per Wikipedia:ORGIND. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 16:28, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing this, I have already mentioned COI. And all my citations were from independent reliable source. Is there a way to re-evaluate the deletion and get the article back up again? Akhare 2024 (talk) 10:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Does this article comply with NPOV now, or is it still too promotional?
For the article about emailSanta.com, I added in criticisms of the site made by various sources, including Wired and the owner himself on the Search Engine Journal. This article was originally written by the owner of the aforementioned website (User:Kringle Claus) in AfC. I was the one who accepted it, but now I regret accepting it, because I think it's too promotional. Do you think I successfully balanced out the promotion and made it WP:NPOV? I am contemplating whether I should start an AfD. Félix An (talk) 11:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Disagreement about repeated links on list articles
Seeking a third opinion, see and read our arguments here. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 11:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
How to get minor fixes made on a protected page
At the IRC help disclaimer page, I noticed a small grammar fix was needed and so I started to make it. But an alert came up that I couldn’t because it’s a protected page. I’m guessing there’s a way to ask for help in doing it. But how?
The sentence in need of minor surgery is this: “There are things on Wikipedia that shouldn't be, adding another article that shouldn't isn't going to help.”
— To take care of the comma splice, I was planning to insert “so” just before “adding.”
— And for a little better flow in the sentence, I was also going to insert “also” just before the 2nd occurrence of “shouldn’t.”
Augnablik (talk) 16:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Augnablik, you could suggest this at Wikipedia talk:IRC help disclaimer. I wouldn't add "so", perhaps "and" would work. I don't think "also" is needed. TSventon (talk) 16:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, the article’s Talk page. A much simpler solution.
- That aside, it seems you agree with me that a conjunction is needed after the comma, just not the choice I made, My reasoning was that “so” shows the direct connection of why adding another useless article isn’t a logical thing to do. I think using “and” wouldn’t do that even though it would at least fix the comma splice.
- As for “also,” I thought it would buttress the direct connection all the more. Augnablik (talk) 17:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- "So" isn't exactly the right word here. I'd change the comma to a semicolon. Uporządnicki (talk) 20:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- AzseicsoK, I am not a punctuation expert, but a semicolon sounds good. TSventon (talk) 20:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- A semicolon is fine as far as punctuation rules go. But I just wanted to add a little more connection between the first clause and the second, so as to emphasise the undesirability of adding another “thing that shouldn’t be on Wikipedia.” To help drive the author or last editor’s point home more.
- At any rate, no changes at all can be made unless and until an editor with a master key to the protected page comes along. Augnablik (talk) 12:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- The page is only extended-confirmed protected. Everyone who commented here other than you, myself included, has "the master key" in this context, and you will too if you make 80 additional edits (but make them meaningful, don't arbitrarily try to inflate your edit count), which at your current rate of editing will take only a few days See WP:Edit requests for the general process of attracting the attention of people who can edit protected pages, for future reference. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- "So" isn't exactly the right word here. I'd change the comma to a semicolon. Uporządnicki (talk) 20:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
how can i delete this page that uses my name for something I didn't do
this is the link: File:UBCO MENA logo, 2020.jpg. 89.26.165.5 (talk) 19:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Is it possible that it is another person by the same name? 331dot (talk) 19:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Are you User:Panteha Emtiyaz who uploaded the file in 2020 and made User:Panteha Emtiyaz/sandbox? If yes, do you mean that you are not the author of the image? If no, do you mean your name is Panteha Emtiya but it's not your user account? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
How to freeze the Menu bar on the left rather than it changes to TOC of the article
Recent update to the Wikipedia UI now changes the sidebar to the TOC of whatever article is being displayed, rather than keeping the Menu items displayed. I usually scan thru several Random articles, which is now difficult to do, since I have to go back to the 3 bars and select menu each time I want a new article. How can I freeze the Menu (like it used to be) on the sidebar and only change it to the article's TOC when I want it?
And what happened to the Wikipedia globe on the Main page and left sidebar menu? We miss it.
Thanks for your assistance. Truthanado (talk) 22:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC) Truthanado (talk) 22:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I think I may have found my answer. I wasn't logged in. Not sure when I got logged out since I always stay logged in. Looks like a not-logged-in user gets a different UI from a logged-in user. Now that I'm logged in again, I get the same UI I've always gotten. Apologies for any confusion. Truthanado (talk) 22:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Need help fixing incorrect page move
Hi, I accidentally created User:Gymnastics_Federation_of_India by moving my sandbox subpage User:MickGarner/sandbox/Gymnastic Federation of India into the user namespace instead of article namespace. I thought I reverted it, but I guess I didn't do it correctly. I managed to get the article published here (Gymnastics Federation of India) but my sandbox subpage still exists as a redirect to the published article, and the user page redirects to my sandbox subpage. Could someone please help me out, I don't know how to fix this. If you could also give me some pointers on how to avoid this in the future, that would be great! Thanks in advance, and sorry for the trouble. MickGarner (talk) 22:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- MickGarner you can tag the unwanted page with {{Db-author}} or an admin may see this conversation. You can avoid this problem by not selecting user namespace instead of article namespace, but obviously mistakes do happen and then you can just delete the incorrect page. TSventon (talk) 23:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, thank you! MickGarner (talk) 06:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
May 10
Redirect blocking publishing article
Hello. I asked this question at the Teahouse, but I think I may have worded it wrong and was misunderstood. I have written a draft on special interests. I would like to publish the draft, but I can not because special interests is a redirect to special interest groups, and the redirect says it is there as the result of a merge and the page needs to stay to preserve the history, so I do not think it can be deleted. What is the best way to proceed here? -- NotCharizard 🗨 06:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Without any opinion on if the article is WP-good or not, have you considered naming it "Special interest (autism)"? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- That is a good idea, thank you! I was unsure of a way to disambiguate it with brackets (I was thinking "autistic trait" but was clearly overthinking it) -- NotCharizard 🗨 16:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- You can make a requested move. But it may be a good idea to discuss it first on Talk:special interest group, as you might be seen as "hijacking" the redirect. ColinFine (talk) 08:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
How to report a possible Wiki software bug
I'm editing an article entitled Canoe. For the last day or so, when I go to publish edits, I click on "Review edits" and I see a blue progress bar going back and forth but never stopping. So I've just given up and done direct publishing without reviewing, as I'm pretty sure I remember everything, now that I'm publishing more after smaller edits than I used to.
I first planned to mention it at the Village Pump in the Technical area, but there it said software bug messages should be done with something called Phabricator. So I clicked on that and got totally bewildered by what seemed endless red tape to write a simple messaage about the above situation. After spending 5 or 10 minutes trying to understand what to do, I suddenly remembered the Help Desk.
So I'm back to ask if someone would make a small edit, then try to publish it, and see if the same I described above happens. Assuming so, then notify a Wiki tekkie.
But I'd also like to understand if software bugs are really supposed to be reported in Phabricator (I hope not!) or can't we just come here to do it? Augnablik (talk) 10:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Augnablik It sounds as though your issue is with the visual editor which I rarely use, finding the source editor more reliable and functional. Do you get the same problem when previewing edits in the source editor? WP:VPT is indeed the correct Help location for technical issues. Someone (not usually the editor who raises the issue) will subsequently do the necessary reporting via Phabricator if they can confirm the bug is real and seen by several users. Don't be put off reporting bugs. Just make sure you give enough information that the experts are likely to be able to reproduce them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Augnablik: Assuming you're using the "Visual" diff option, this has since been reported, see phab:T364635. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Is the "Visual" diff option you mentioned, @Suffusion of Yellow, something different from just the Visual view — which I'm using? Augnablik (talk) 11:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- After you click Publish Changes -> Review your changes, you should see two buttons in the upper right corner. The one labeled "Visual" is broken for everyone, but should be fixed soon according to the linked task. The one labeled "Wikitext" should work now. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 17:48, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Is the "Visual" diff option you mentioned, @Suffusion of Yellow, something different from just the Visual view — which I'm using? Augnablik (talk) 11:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull, I could have sworn I replied to you a few days ago ... but apparently not, because I don't see that reply here. So I'll try again.
- What I wanted to reply to your reply was that I don't use the Source Editor, so I can't say whether the same problem would come up for me there. Why I don't use it is that the coding is a little daunting for an editor at my level, though I'm getting increasingly comfortable with it while at the same time making my way through the huge amount of Wiki whatnot to get familiar with — rules, regulations, templates, etc.
- But from what @Suffusion of Yellow said earlier today, maybe my issue has been solved. Augnablik (talk) 11:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Augnablik: Assuming you're using the "Visual" diff option, this has since been reported, see phab:T364635. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Change information
The current Minister of water resources and sanitation is Nigeria is Engr. Prof. Joseph Terlumun Utsev. FNSE, FNICE, FNIWE. Please effect this correction 105.112.228.188 (talk) 11:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- IP editor. Please make that suggestion on the Talk Page of the article in question, together with a reliable source that confirms this fact. We have lots of articles on Nigeria and I'm not sure which one you are referring to. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This is really a mess - very inappropriate
How come all german flags has been converted to Nazi flags in this article ?
Here is the link and screenshot .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Grand_Prix_results 2601:644:8D80:B510:45A7:4AA8:848E:1055 (talk) 18:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- It shows the official flag of Germany at the time of the events 1935–1939. See Flag of Germany#Nazi Germany and World War II (1933–1945). That's the flag they represented. This is normal practice in the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to say because from 1933–1945 it was in fact the flag of Germany. You can also see that the Italian flag is the flag from that period and not the contemporary tricolor. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- You claim it's all German flags in the article but the later years don't show the 1933–1945 flag for me and I can find no sign it has previously shown that flag for wrong years. PrimeHunter (talk)
- I'm seeing what you are seeing as well. I don't see an issue here. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I agree there's no issue with the German flags. But the UK flags on that page are the "at sea" version of the Union Jack, with a 2:1 aspect ratio. The "on land" version with a 5:3 aspect ratio would be moer appropriate. I don't understand templates well enough to risk trying to correct it. Maproom (talk) 19:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please see Union_Jack#Specification and the reference in the "proportion" field of the infobox. The use the terms "normally" and "commonly" respectively, theree is no fixed ratio. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 20:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- You claim it's all German flags in the article but the later years don't show the 1933–1945 flag for me and I can find no sign it has previously shown that flag for wrong years. PrimeHunter (talk)
update
Would someone please update my wikipedia page: Timothy Archambault. thank you! Here are some new references: Here's some more updated sources: https://www.gsd.harvard.edu/event/timothy-archambault-the-silent-echo-architectures-of-the-void/ https://www.blankforms.org/journal/brontomancy https://carnac.ideologic.org/ https://www.ideologic.org/release/soma042-timothy-archambault-chisake https://oppenoffice.com/people/timothy-archambault/ https://www.cyjostudio.com/aboutthecreativedestruction https://subtropics.org/ST25/creative-destruction/ https://subtropics.org/2017/12/01/raven-chacon-andtim-archambault-the-creative-destruction/ https://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Native-American-Music-America/dp/0313336008 136.28.63.9 (talk) 18:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- This request would be better placed at Talk:Timothy Archambault using the {{edit coi}} template. Actually it looks like maybe you already trtied that but without using the template? Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I went ahead and reposted this there with the template. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Readability - "Balkans" page
Hey team! On the page for "Balkans," section "definition and boundaries," subsection "criticism of the geographical definition," there's a paragraph which needs to be edited for clarity:
"Since the late 19th and early 20th-century literature is not known where is exactly the northern border between the peninsula and the continent, with an issue, whether the rivers are suitable for its definition. In the studies the Balkans' natural borders, especially the northern border, are often avoided to be addressed, considered as a "fastidious problem" by André Blanc in Geography of the Balkans (1965), while John Lampe and Marvin Jackman in Balkan Economic History (1971) noted that "modern geographers seem agreed in rejecting the old idea of a Balkan Peninsula". Another issue is the name because the Balkan Mountains which are mostly located in Northern Bulgaria are not dominating the region by length and area like the Dinaric Alps. An eventual Balkan peninsula can be considered a territory South of the Balkan Mountains, with a possible name "Greek-Albanian Peninsula." "
I am not an experienced wiki editor, and in some places I'm not sure what the writer meant anyways, so I wouldn't feel confident making suggested edits. I hope this is the right place to raise the flag! 2003:D4:6F0B:1E00:7C52:48AB:A714:889B (talk) 23:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Prospective editors of the article Balkans are told "This page is semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. If you need help getting started with editing, please visit the Teahouse." Well, kind of: that suggestion is about editing in general, not about editing the article Balkans in particular. So what about this particular article? The orthodox suggestion is to ask at the article's talk page; and therefore Talk:Balkans. But in my experience complaints, however justified, about obscurity rarely lead to improvements. I've fiddled with the article. I hope that it's slightly less obscure now. However, it remains obscure (and, I suspect, unnecessarily wordy). Perhaps one or two other editors here would care to take a look. -- Hoary (talk) 01:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- The best course is to consult the sources that are cited in the references. Since the sources are published, one can normally expect that they've been copyedited and are lucid. (The effusions of Professor Žižek, quoted at some length later, are among the conspicuous exceptions.) The obscure passage you ask about is, or says it is, based on sources in Croatian. That's entirely legitimate, but unfortunately not so many editors here can read Croatian. -- Hoary (talk) 03:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
May 11
HOW DO I GET MY PERSONAL PROFILE TO BE LISTED ON WIKIPEDIA
Hi!
I am interested in uploading my personal profile on Wikipedia. Please advise me on how I can get started in achieving such objective? Thank you. Raphosystemtronix (talk) 03:18, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- You don't. This is an encylopedia, not social media. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 03:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Raphosystemtronix Wikipedia has a policy that only topics which are wikinotable are included and autobiography is frowned on for reasons described at that link. Notable people who have articles must meet the criteria at WP:NBIO or the article about them may be nominated for deletion. We also have very strict sourcing requirements for biographies of living people. On the other hand, every Wikipedia editor with an account can use their UserPage to tell others here a bit about their intentions and interests. See WP:UPYES. Your userpage could be created if you clicked on the currently red link to your username. More important, though, is to make some contributions to existing articles. Mike Turnbull (talk) 08:25, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Contribution are deleted without history record
Hi everyone,
I want to asked if someone experent too that he \ she wrote a contribution to wiki and it was deleted without any history record?
Like a big bag with wiki contribution. I don't want to said that a manger nor someone strong use is ability but would like to know if someone has the power to delete a contribution with no record?
It had happen to me several time with contribution that have done to the Hebrew wiki. Special wikibook.
Unlike it, when I wrote something at Hebrew wikipedia, that I think at most wiki, might be delete - I do have history record...
Many thanks and apologize if I wouldn't respond,
יוני2023 (talk) 06:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- First of all, this is the English Wikipedia, we don't have any answers about how things work on the Hebrew Wikipedia, but if I understand you correctly it sounds like an edit may have been revision deleted or perhaps supressed. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 07:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Assuming this is about hewiki, where the OP is indefinitely blocked, they appear to have two revision-deleted edits in January and an unknown number of edits to their deleted userpage he:משתמש:יוני2023 (with 5 deleted edits total). I suspect its the latter, because deleted contributions like these don't realy show up anywhere accessible to non-admins (you can get the count of these from xtools, and make a few guesses based upon the page creations reported, but thats about it) Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Possible to edit our published edits?
Isn't there a way to edit an edit we published, especially a new one? Augnablik (talk) 06:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- You can edit the text that you added or edited, in the same way that you made the origimal edit. You can't edit the edit summary . If you feel that the edit summary you left was inadquate, you can make a "null edit" to the article (e.g. add a space somewhefre that it'll have no effect), and leave an edit summary for that, explaining what you've done. Maproom (talk) 07:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- So, in other words, I can’t go to my User Contributions and click on the one I want to change — right, @Maproom? Augnablik (talk) 07:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Augnablik Only in the sense that your contributions list will remind you what you did and provide a link to the page/section where you made an edit that might need your attention. Any individual edit summary you see can't be altered. See WP:EDITSUMMARY. Note that one way forward can be to undo your own edit, so in effect you can start again. Mike Turnbull (talk) 08:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- I can undo an edit? That’s good news! Wish I’d known before I followed up on @Maproom‘s suggestion of a null edit, which I did — asking whichever senior editor ended up handling my null edit not to do what I’d requested and just let me undo the edit.
- Now I ’m wishing for a way to nullify my null edit. Augnablik (talk) 09:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- You can undo an edit (up to a point), you can not undo a WP:ES. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Augnablik Only in the sense that your contributions list will remind you what you did and provide a link to the page/section where you made an edit that might need your attention. Any individual edit summary you see can't be altered. See WP:EDITSUMMARY. Note that one way forward can be to undo your own edit, so in effect you can start again. Mike Turnbull (talk) 08:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- So, in other words, I can’t go to my User Contributions and click on the one I want to change — right, @Maproom? Augnablik (talk) 07:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
ANeed help
I have noticed that one of your article has missed the name of the musician who played with Michael Wadada. Is by any chance you can add the name on that list? Glenbuckarts (talk) 07:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- For subjects that do not have a Wikipedia article, those articles will eventually get written some day if they meet the Wikipedia notability guidelines, which are a minimum requirement for the article to exist (otherwise it may get deleted). Also just to let you know, Wikipedia is a volunteer project, and it is written by millions of different people out there ("anyone"), and not just a certain team or small group of people. It's in the name, wiki. You can edit and write articles yourself too! Though I'd read Help:Introduction first to get the hang of things here. — AP 499D25 (talk) 08:43, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- We have no article on Michael Wadada (presumably yourself), which is why that 'wikilink' appears red, but we have 10 articles that mention you/him. Which one are you referring to?
- If we knew, we could look at that article's references, and determine whether one of them justifies adding the 'missing' name, which you have not told us either. Collectively, we volunteer editors are quite good at what we do, but we are not mind readers. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.175.176 (talk) 09:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- 188.220.175.176 changed the displayed name in the signature to Michael Wadada.[1] Never do that. I'm changing it back to Glenbuckarts. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Script that mass-retargets redirects?
I am looking for a script or gadget or whatever tool that can change the target of a whole bunch of redirects en-masse. Does there exist such a thing?
Today I just finally completed the merging of six major list articles, into one list article. Doing so has garnered hundreds upon hundreds of double-redirects that need to be fixed. And honestly, man, it is going to be so tiresome going through and retargeting each and every one manually. I already spent heaps of effort doing the merging as well as the re-adapting of the table layouts to increase the efficiency of data presentation, keep the page size reasonable, etc.
I know I can just wait and let a bot fix all the double-redirects. But the issue is, if the page were to be split up into differently titled new separate pages (which I've got a discussion open on at the moment), I would now have to go and retarget all those hundreds of different redirects manually, the bot wouldn't automatically edit them as the target page is still valid and not a redirect. So I'm looking for some viable solution here, e.g. some semi-automated mass editing tool similar to Cat-a-lot. — AP 499D25 (talk) 07:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- AP 499D25, you could try WP:AWBREQ. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Twinkle COI-warning?
I don't use twinkle to warn people a lot. I can't find a "Hello, it seems you may have a COI..." warning, is there none? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, there is. It's {{uw-coi}}. It's down in the list of single warnings below the Level 4 stuff. Joyous! Noise! 13:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Huh. Thanks! How did I miss that? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Special:Export (Wikimedia Foundation 500, Internal Server Error)
For the past 48 hours, whenever I've attempted to use the Export tool, I've got this error.
I've cleared my cache, tried a different device etc. but I'm unable to access it. I've tried searching about but I can't find anyone else having this issue.
Any ideas?
~~~~ Josh (talk) 14:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Jcshy: Did you try to include templates? See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#special:export and phab:T364554. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- You’re a lifesaver, I have so that answers my question. I’ve been trying to find answers all weekend, I think I’ll save the technical village pump for the future! Josh (talk) 02:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Looks like vandalism or a hoax.
On the article Atlantis Squarepantis, on the plot, the description that I claim vandalism or a hoax is “when he discovers that some Canadians have pushed Encino during the 10 Second Tidy” and Betamax is a “CD player” instead. Can you revert the edit? Who is the user behind this? Can you block the user? —2.100.180.63 (talk) 19:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- IP editor,thank you for reporting, this was fixed at 21:14 on 11 May 2024. The problem edit is here, however the IP editor has not edited since January, so there is no point in blocking them. TSventon (talk) 12:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Uploading a privately taken photo
I am trying to upload into an article a privately taken photograph of the subject but have been unable to do satisfy Wikipedia of its ownership. How can I accomplish this or is it even possible?
Ausmithimpa (talk) 22:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- If you personally took the image, you can upload it to Commons(commons.wikimedia.org). New accounts cannot upload images to this Wikipedia directly. If you didn't personally take it, it would be easier if the photographer uploaded it; otherwise it's a bit harder as you would need to show that the image was released for anyone to use for any purpose with attribution. 331dot (talk) 22:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Ausmithimpa: what you saw was an automated filter that blocks new users from uploading low-resolution images. You can upload the image directly here: c:Special:UploadWizard. MKFI (talk) 14:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much. I’ll give that a shot. 73.19.118.252 (talk) 18:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
May 12
Is a picture of breast milk considered adult content?
See title 2607:FEA8:28E1:8800:21B8:717C:4077:C8CC (talk) 00:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Considered adult content for what purpose? Breast milk has several. Depending on context, a picture of breast milk can certainly be seen as unnecessary. WP includes several pictures that can be considered "adult content". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:21, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I would suggest reading WP:CENSOR, I think that should awnser whatever your implicit question is. -- D'n'B-t -- 06:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't at all see how an image of a cup of a substance identified as breast milk is "adult content"(perhaps the OP could explain), and even if it were, Wikipedia is not censored. As to whether an image is necessary, that's another issue that depends on context. It's certainly reasonable on the breast milk article. 331dot (talk) 12:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- IP user, there are ways to avoid seeing images that may offend you; you can install software/adjust your settings on your end to block them, or you can take steps when using Wikipedia(though those require an account, see WP:NOSEE). 331dot (talk) 12:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- And the content of this hypothetical cup can certainly be argued not to be "adult content". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't at all see how an image of a cup of a substance identified as breast milk is "adult content"(perhaps the OP could explain), and even if it were, Wikipedia is not censored. As to whether an image is necessary, that's another issue that depends on context. It's certainly reasonable on the breast milk article. 331dot (talk) 12:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I would suggest reading WP:CENSOR, I think that should awnser whatever your implicit question is. -- D'n'B-t -- 06:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Force collapse navboxes
Is there a script or piece of CSS that will force collapse navboxes on pages I view? So many break page formatting on narrow screens due to the over use of nowrap. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 11:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I suspoect you'd have more luck asking this particular question over at WP:VPT. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- That was my first thought, but I second guessed myself. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 18:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Karelian National Movement
This page spreads false information about me and my organization. After I corrected the information myself, I was prohibited from editing this page. I have two questions: 1. Is Wikipedia responsible for spreading false information? 2. How to correct false information? MiteriPanfilov (talk) 15:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MiteriPanfilov There is general advice at WP:ASFAQ. I haven't investigated your particular situation. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please investigate this issue.
- I'll give just one example
- https://www.severreal.org/a/mozhet-li-kareliya-otdelitsya-ot-rossii-/32235862.html
- This is the link on the basis of which the Karta with the article specified in the article is assigned to my organization
- Stop the occupation of Karelia
- Although the same link indicates the name of the organization Karelian National Movement and Oleinik speaks about this in an interview,
- But not Kuznetsov Dmitry!!!
- Please remove false information from the page!!! MiteriPanfilov (talk) 16:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is a help desk, offering general advice. We don't 'investigate' article content here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Which court can I go to? I wrote several messages but no one answered me how to correct the false information!! MiteriPanfilov (talk) 16:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are no 'courts' on Wikipedia. You have been told to read WP:ASFAQ. On your talk page, you have been given further advice on how to handle this. I strongly suggest you take the time to read the advice you have been given, and then discuss the matter on the article talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Which court can I go to? I wrote several messages but no one answered me how to correct the false information!! MiteriPanfilov (talk) 16:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is a help desk, offering general advice. We don't 'investigate' article content here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Question on notability (crossposted from here, just in case)
When did gender/sexuality suddenly become such a notable trait to the point where being a certain gender/sexuality makes you more notable than someone of a different gender/sexuality? Especially if it's not the typical male/female thing you usually get. Like, maybe I don't get it 'cause I'm a straight white dude who's never been attacked for something like that but like big whoop? Why should anyone, regardless of where you stand on the issue, care THAT much over who someone decides to fuck? Like it just seems to me both sides, gender nonconforming types and the intolerant people railing against them need to take a step back and wonder if this is REALLY something to get THAT worked up over. Live your life, fuck whomever you wanna fuck and don't make it other people's problems, simple.
PS SO glad my favorite jerk from my favorite show out now has an article. Americanfreedom (talk) 20:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)