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sources

Can we get a list of sources going? Otherwise we'll just add information that we won't be able to find a proper source for later.--Megaman en m (talk) 06:48, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is anyone still willing to work on this article?--Megaman en m (talk) 17:11, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
User:Megaman en m User:MegaGoat I made an article with sources now and submitted :)
Thank you for working on the article, it's genuinely a great help. I corrected some of the grammar and trimmed a lot of unsourced or unnotable material. This article should be ready for publishing at this point I think. A lot of work can still be done on expanding the development and reception section. Some story elements still need to be removed/explained from an out-of-universe perspective (such as "judgment hall" or "genocide run".)--Megaman en m (talk) 09:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your copy edits thank you for that, Ive restored the mods and some of the character's apperances cuz it is still notable

Things left to add

This article is far from being publish-worthy. The bare minimum would that still needs to be added is a plot summary of what Sans does in Undertale and Deltarune along with a reception section. A development section would also be nice. Toriel is not perfect, but this article should come close to that in length and detail.--Megaman en m (talk) 08:24, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Except sans doesn't do much in deltarune chapter one except make an appearance.Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 16:11, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In that case you'll only have to write one sentence on his appearance.--Megaman en m (talk) 17:10, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is already one about that ;( Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 17:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah, I didn't notice that somehow. Still, it would need more detailed information on what he does in Undertale.--Megaman en m (talk) 18:30, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand why we can no longer view the sans image, neither do I know how to fix images or even upload them. Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 17:38, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what happened either, maybe the fair use wasn't specified?--Megaman en m (talk) 17:49, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Fangamer has created a 3D render figure of sans, or maybe we could use his appearance in SSBU as the costume. Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 15:38, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
He should definitely have an image that's most representative of his main appearances, which would be the overworld sprite from undertale/deltarune. In other words, the image which got mysteriously deleted. I guess someone should just reupload it and make sure that all the non-free content criteria is explained.--Megaman en m (talk) 16:25, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Another representative thing I can think of is his battle sprite with his blue eye, that would definitely make loads of fans happy. But the other problem is that you can't battle sans in deltarune. Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 16:46, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would stick with the overworld sprite, there is no need to use a sprite which only appears in one scene of the game.--Megaman en m (talk) 16:50, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It appears twice, but I get your point. Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 16:55, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I found this image, is it free to use? File:Sans Undertale.jpg MᴇɢᴀGᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 11:59, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've been working on a version of this article in my sandbox, I would like to know what could be changed. MegaGoat (talk) 17:53, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dang, I missed a lot of the development on this page over the weekend. MegaGoat (talk) 12:51, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I want to get rid of the part where it says " around the same time, he also recieved his own amibo figure from nintendo" because nintendo does not authorize the custom amibo figure, but first I wanted some opinions. (if I can get some.) MegaGoat (talk) 17:54, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi all, I don't think it's fair to use fanmade content to flesh out the page. VentureSonic (talk) 19:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I (and others) have been working on Sans page of my own although this page seems much more fleshed out and detailed. If you'd like to take portions from that page and append them here go ahead. VentureSonic (talk) 19:20, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
User:VentureSonic I already did on the plot, thanks for that, but Sometimes a fan made has RS, it is notable. the flush merchandise that you've placed on your draft was not rs unlike this one you'd removed btw :)
Apparently it is now an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.113.79.85 (talk) 00:03, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The article could still add information about his appearance in official merchandise.--Megaman en m (talk) 11:00, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! on the Deltarune description of Sans, I edited it to more accurately fit his appearance in the game. This way it isn't one vague sentence. I also edited somewhat awkward grammar and changed "Genocide Route" to "No mercy Route" (the preferred name for the route by Toby Fox) ––DeliSample (talk) 13:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image needed

can some upload image of sans this one [1], thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.113.79.85 (talk) 00:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You need to supply the url of the page that the image appears on, not the direct link to the gif. This is necessary for licensing purposes. --AussieLegend () 00:18, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
User:AussieLegend here [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.113.79.85 (talk) 00:26, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I found this file named File:Sans Undertale.jpg, maybe it could be added? MegaGoat (talk) 17:23, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd prefer his default pose, but this is better than nothing, so I'd say add it for now.--Megaman en m (talk) 17:37, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That was fun while it lasted. how about a pic from seekpng? is their DMCA notice enough for wikipeida? Hydromania (talk) 09:31, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

School computers blocked both websites, I can't make the call. MegaGoat (talk) 11:40, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've uploaded a correctly sourced image per requests. -Liancetalk/contribs 18:44, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

title changed without consensus

the title should be changed back into Sans (Undertale) not this current one, as there will might be more sans on video game in the future. 222.112.112.75 (talk) 07:01, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If there are going to be other games with Sans in them (like Deltarune), that's all the more reason not to put 'Undertale' in the article's title.--Megaman en m (talk) 09:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 July 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 21:53, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Sans (character)Sans (Undertale) – Fictional elements are disambiguated by work or franchise of origin. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 15:59, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2021

Can someone add this on reception section. TheGamer included Sans on their "Iconic Video Game Characters", stating that "In Undertale, you explore a land of unique characters and villains that quickly will grab your attention."[1] 126.60.255.230 (talk) 02:54, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. We have plenty of quotes from more reliable/recognizable sources that say basically the same thing. Also, your quote has very little to do with Sans himself.  Ganbaruby! (talk) 04:36, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

Moving to Sans (Toby Fox)

Why isn't Sans (Toby Fox) a print worthy title? Faster than Thunder (talk) 22:31, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What's wrong with Sans (Undertale)? If we are disambiguating fictional characters in titles, we typically parenthesize the show or series they are from, not the name of the creator. See Spike_(character) for some examples. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:12, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can we use Sans (Undertale/Deltarune)? Faster than Thunder (talk) 23:25, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The current name is fine. Why would we change the name based on a brief appearance in another game? Also see the move discussion above where the current name was proposed. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The typical naming convention for characters appearing in multiple games would be Sans (character), although I don't think he has yet had a major enough role in Deltarune to merit this (at least, yet). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 17:50, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tumblr "Sexyman" Poll

Although quite funny honestly, I don't think it should be mentioned here. I'm not sure if a Twitter poll about a Tumblr "Sexyman" would be notable or of encyclopedic value here, it really feels like WP:GAMECRUFT sadly. Viewers who have no idea what UNDERTALE, DELTARUNE, or sans is would probably be totally confused as to why this is such an achievement. Sparkltalk 13:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sparkl: I agree. Not only is Tumblr basically dying but I"ve never even heard of this. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2022

Sans is not simply a brief cameo in Deltarune, but a full character/npc! EditorPedia94 (talk) 15:36, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Significance of Sans Smash Bros Appearence

There should be a sentence or two outlining just how outrageous it is that Sans is in Smash. It deserves more than a passing mention.

Certainly more than the fact that he...won a tumblr poll...about "sexymen".

Maybe it's time to unlock this article at let real scholars on the character do some work? It's 2023. Nobody is crazy about sans anymore. 2600:8801:1389:9800:7F62:7628:BD5E:A61 (talk) 16:08, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You'd be surprised how many people are still crazy about Sans. Also, "real scholars" usually aren't interested in a video game character. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:12, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox image

Question: why is the infobox image a 3D render rather than how Sans appears in Undertale? Both are/can be fair-use images. Spinixster (chat!) 09:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To show how the character appears in color, while the sprites were deemed too low resolution.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 14:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you mean, but I'm not sure those reasons necessarily outweigh the value the sprite depiction would/could have. The sprite depiction is way Sans appears for the preponderance of his appearances in media. It's what readers will most likely recognize, if they do recognize Sans. P-Makoto (she/her) (talk) 02:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The design her doesn't take away from that, and he's appeared in enough external media it's fair to argue for (case in point, consider someone only knowing him from the Smash Bros. skin)--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:51, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2024

in the part after it says "the camera zooms on him it never gets old" the article says "Its boss fight" but it should say "His boss fight" or "It's boss fight" 136.36.47.34 (talk) 22:18, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closed as this was  Done by User:Ohnoitsjamie. ― novov (t c) 01:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images used for Undertale character articles

Why use fangamer renders instead of the pixel art sprites which appear in the game? FizzleDrunk (talk) 14:37, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FizzleDrunk, you should read the discuss section Infobox image so you could learn. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 22:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, understood FizzleDrunk (talk) 10:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 March 2024

Changing the line "In January 2022, a rendition of Sans' theme, "Megalovania", was played in front of Pope Francis." to "In January 2022, a rendition of Sans' battle theme, "Megalovania", was played in front of Pope Francis." Since it is a point of debate if Megalovania is actually Sans' theme or Chara's theme. To make it more understandable for people wanting to learn about the character and not interested in game theories, that simple change would be factually correct and still easy to understand. Persea gatuna (talk) 21:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, though with slightly altered wording. ― novov (t c) 05:00, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Planning to GA

Tagging some authors here? GoatLordServant and Skyshifter Hey peeps, so I might be planning to make this article into GA, but I need some help on lead and maybe a bit in appearances section like the quote stuff as a source should be fine? Thank you. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 22:22, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'm finished. Feel free to copyedit for something. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 02:24, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Greenish Pickle!: I can't tell what the bit 'When Fox first designed Sans, he did so to make more skeleton puns, but he didn't think it was humorous enough, so he later scrapped it for artist Temmie Chang.' is trying to say. Would you may write it more legibly? I can't make sense of it enough to fix. ~ GoatLordServant(Talk) 12:32, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Its over here [3]. You have to make a word for yourself thou. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 12:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That site is blocked on my laptop. ~ GoatLordServant(Talk) 12:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was all written like this on concept art. Toby Fox: Uhh. He looked different, but Sans was just Sans. Originally he was going to tell more skeleton puns, but it wasn't as funny as I thought it would be. Temmie Chang: Temmy figuring out Sans's outfit. He was going to be running poker at the casino at some point. Oh yeah, there isn't acasino... is there?

Anyway. I also added you as a conom for GA nomination. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 12:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Sans (Undertale)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Greenish Pickle! (talk · contribs) GoatLordServant (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 12:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No way it's Sans Undertale. Will try to get this done in the coming days. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 12:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Greenish Pickle! (talk · contribs) @GoatLordServant (talk · contribs)

Review

Six Good Article Criteria

1. The prose is riddled with numerous typos and errors, but I'm willing to give it a pass since overall the article is well written and says what it needs to.

2. Most info is in the article, and any not cited information has been pointed out below, and it only applies to plot info. Earwig picks up no major copyright violations beyond the direct quotations.

3. The article, I would say, is not broad in its coverage. Nearly all of the sources in the article's Reception are trivial and do not aid in an understanding or analysis of Sans. While some sources do help, there is not enough here to establish a proper Reception section beyond something incredibly- and pardon the pun- barebones.

4. Article is neutral, and does not take a stance on a particular issue or topic.

5. Article appears stable. No major edit conflicts in the days prior to editing nor recently.

6. Article has two fair use images and a fair use media file. All three have valid uses and rationales in the article.

Lead

-"and first appeared in" change and to who.  Done

-"Initially appearing as a friendly NPC with an easy-going, laid-back personality and also the brother of Papyrus." is not a proper sentence, I'd change this to "He initially appears as... and is also the brother of Papyrus."  Done

-"He was originally created as a character to make more skeleton puns, though Fox did not like this idea as it was not humorous enough, so he scrapped it." Confused on this since Sans wasn't scrapped? Reword this to be more clear.  Done

Concept and design

-"and at this point in development the character was called "Comic Sans" after the typeface, described simply as the brother of the game's second boss Papyrus, following the same naming scheme." A bit of a run-on sentence. I'd shorten this a bit.  Done

-"Sans refers to itself in as サンズ/Sanzu, which may refer to the 三途の河/Sanzu River, also known as the "Sanzu no kawa" or the river that separates life from death, and judges for those that pass it." Change "itself" to "himself" and fix up grammar at the "judges for those that pass it" section.  Done

-"Sans uses oira, and anta, and sometimes omae towards his friends and he also switches his gender-neutral speaking style into omae and ore when he is either being serious or talking to his brother, and then also uses sentence finals such as sa and na." Run-on sentence once again. I'd split this sentence.  Done

-"When Sans meets the main character, he tells a story where he again switches to "Kansai ben" about a meeting he had in the woods. He only does this once, and in other ways, he speaks the standard language." Entirely confused as to what this is supposed to mean. The following sentences are also very confusing, especially as someone entirely unfamiliar with Japanese as a language. I'd add clarification for the various things you're referring to here because this is entirely unfriendly to readers without this knowledge.  Done

-Your sourcing on the language stuff mostly seems to hail from a master's thesis. I am unfortunately unfamiliar, but I'm not entirely certain of the reliability of this source in regards to the info you're trying to verify. I'd suggest trying to find a better source, unless I am completely wrong, in which case correct me. **It has been cited multiple times, and this whos that the master's thesis is reliable (It has been also used in other Undertale articles by other Users as well). GreenishPickle! (🔔) 23:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appearances

-"Sans is a skeleton wearing a blue jacket, black shorts with white stripes, and white slippers." not really relevant to the appearances.  Done removing

-"Unlike his brother Papyrus, Sans claims has no interest in capturing humans." Add he, which I've done myself since it's a minor fix. I'd also suggest finding a better source than a quote, but that won't affect the article's potential promotion either way. This appears to be trivia now.  Done removing

-Source the info of Sans following the player through the Underground.  Done

-The quote used for Sans's phone call does not support what you're saying. Find a better source for this.  Done

-The cut content appears for fitting for "Concept and design" than appearances. I'd also remove the "Afterward."  Done

-"Outside the Undertale" change to "Outside of Undertale"  Done

-Remove the comma after "where" in the sentence about his Deltarune appearance.  Done

Promotion and Reception

-I'd change "being featured" to "such as" in the second sentence of the second paragraph.  Done

-The Kotaku quote seems to be trivial coverage, as it only covers Sans's associations with Gaster, and the "endearing" quote is a single sentence.  Done removing

-Change "he said that he is" in the Dualshockers quote to something like "stating that." I'd also shorten the quote to cut out the teddy bear bit.  Done

-The Polygon source seems pretty trivial. Good for showing his popularity but the comments themselves don't add much.

  • I dosagree with this one, polyon of all other sourced you mentioned here seems to be valuable to me.

-"Destructoid writer CJ Andriessen believed that Sans' appearance in Smash Bros. had increased to his desire, and thought that he was too late to play Undertale." Firstly, the grammar here needs improvement, with "increased to his desire" being better as "increased his desire." Secondly, this sentence does not contribute anything to Sans's notability, referring more to the game to him. Thirdly, this is a trivial mention, with the article only mentioning Sans once.  Done removing

-Not critical but you can definitely expand the Reception with the info from the parasocial relationships paper. There looks to be a lot in there at a glance.  Done not really a lot in that article, as we should only cite what he says in the conclusion. So expanded now.

-Sans in the Klausen article is a trivial mention, and the article and quote themselves are more about the game than Sans.  Done removing

-The Walker Kotaku quote appears to be relatively trivial. Not terrible but it doesn't provide much.  Done removing

-"Writer Frederic Seraphie compared the battle with Sans to "breaking the fourth wall," stating that genocide happens in the game, notably in the fight with Sans. He considered using genocide as a metaphorical way to "break" Undertale after concluding that it is the most ludonarratively dissonant game mechanic. He continued by saying that the battle against Sans disrupts numerous processes." Genocide being in the game is a bit of a given, given that we just had the Genocide Route described to us. Try shortening it and removing the unneeded context. Also, I'd use a term not as wordy as "ludonarratively" given that not many readers will know what that word means. Additionally, what "numerous processes" does Sans disrupt? How does he do it? I can't access the source due to a citing error, so I can't really comment on its reliability or analysis content, but I'd improve this section a lot.  Done I jist ended up the disruptive stuff being removed as it looks irrelevant

-The leitmotif article just states whenever Sans's leitmotif pops up, and offers no commentary, with even the bit being cited just showing how a different theme evolves the Sans leitmotif (Which is in and of itself a trivial mention.)  Done removing

-The 700 Club source doesn't really ad d much. It just states a minor incident happens with Sans and moves on. The summary is unneeded, especially the direct quote, and in my eyes doesn't constitute as SIGCOV.  Done removing   -Add quotations to the Destructoid quote at the end of the Tumblr Sexyman paragraph, since that's a direct quote from the article in question.  Done

-Technically not Reception, but the source about Patrick and Sans doesn't really need to be given as external reading. If it's important, cite it in the article. Done removing

Overall

I frankly cannot pass this article. There are too many glaring issues or problems present for me to say that this can be passed, and edits of the magnitude needed are too much to justify putting this GAR on hold. My advice for the nominators would be to find in-depth sources discussing Sans, akin to a couple of the sources used (Sources like the ones discussing Sans and Papyrus's relationship, the Parasocial relationships, etc) instead of trivial mentions, and to either remove or condense those. I would also patch up the various grammatical issues and clarify the Concept and design section so readers can better understand it. I do hope my comments will help with further improving the article, however, and I wish the nominators the best of luck with improving this article in the future.

Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:45, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info. I already fixed it and renominated for another reviewer to check it. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 23:27, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2024

"He is often paired with his brother, also named after a font of the same name" is awkward/redundant phrasing. Please change to "He is often paired with his brother, also named after a font". 12.0.209.58 (talk) 15:43, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. λ NegativeMP1 16:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Sans (Undertale)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Greenish Pickle! (talk · contribs) GoatLordServant (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: Cocobb8 (talk · contribs) 20:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Last updated: 22:40, 28 March 2024 (UTC) by Cewbot

Status:  Passed

100% reviewed

   


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3a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic
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Comments from first read-through:

@Greenish Pickle!: I am starting this review. Please let me know if you have any questions during the review process!

@Greenish Pickle!: The article reads really great and is easy to understand, Here are some comments from my first read-through (I've been bold and corrected all other minor issues). If you'd like me to put the review on hold so you can work on them, please let me know. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:54, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to do some of the things I can do over the span of the next hour or so. Thank you. ~ GoatLordServant(Talk) 17:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GoatLordServant Thanks for helping out! I'll be finishing off my review by Thursday. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 20:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. added GoatLordServant as a co-nom since I forgot hehe. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 22:06, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Sans the Skeleton is a character in the 2015 video game Undertale, developed by Toby Fox. Who is developed by Toby Fox, the game or the character? If it's both, then mention it.  Done Removed mention of Toby Fox in the immediate sentence.

Sans appears in Deltarune, where he can only be found at his shop, which is a remodeled version of Grillby's Diner from the original game. A bit more context about Deltarune could be helpful here, like the release date.  Done Added release date.

He was created by Fox with support from the artist Temmie Chang. This might be redundant; deleting mention of Toby Fox in the article's first sentence to keep that here, or simply move it out of the lead.  Done Solved redundancy

He was originally created as a character to make more skeleton puns What puns? This brings questions right away, so you might want to say something like (...) was originally created as a humorous character or whatever you see fit. Given that this sentence is also repeated in the next section, it is necessary to rephrase it.  Done Removed sentence. Could potentially be worked back in, come better phrasing, but I don't know how to fix that one.

His name is based on the Comic Sans font, which is used for most of his in-game dialogue and communicates with the sans typeface, which had to be changed to a "cutesy irreverent typeface" when translated into Japanese. Consider splitting that sentence.  Done Split down the middle.

Concept and design

(...) he added the spotlight. What spotlight?  Done

When translating Undertale into Japanese, however, this needed to be changed due to being difficult to translate. Unless I'm wrong, it might be better to say (...) due to it being (...)  Done I think I implemented what you meant.

"Megalovania", the song used during the boss battle against Sans, had previously been used within Homestuck and in one of Fox's EarthBound ROM hacks. How is that linked to the paragraph? Consider moving it elsewhere.  Done moved.

There is a full paragraph about the translations into Japanese. Though there seems to be great sources supporting this, it might (and this is my opinion here) be great to condense it a little bit, as it seems to get off-topic.

Appearances

(...) appearance in the "Last Corridor" Is that an episode of Undertale? This could be clarified.  Done Clarified meaning

Promotion and reception

Sans received multiple pieces of merchandise. You could say that he was shown on multiple pieces of merchandise instead.  Done Implemented

During the Undertale Q&A (...). Does an article exist for it? If not, a little more context, like a date, could be helpful.  Done added a date.

On a Quora topic, someone commented, “Sans and Papyrus are so darn perfect with each other. Sans, being the depressed and punny lazy skeleton and Papyrus, being the cheerful and loving brother… They complement each other so perfectly.” Quora is not a reliable source, as it is user-generated.  Done removed. has no place here.

Other GA requirements:

@Greenish Pickle!: @GoatLordServant: The article excellently complies with all manual of style requirements. No issues found there.

Running Copyvio Detector, ReFill and IABot, no blatant issues found with the citations. Conducting a sources spot-check for verifiability, no issues found either.

The article does not go off-topic and addresses the main aspects of the article effectively.

The article is written from a neutral POV, and has an appropriate reception section for critics.

Checking the article's history, article is quite stable, no major changes besides GAR improvements.

Finally, appropriate media is used, all using relevant copyright tags.

@Greenish Pickle!: @GoatLordServant: This concludes my review.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

User:Cocobb8 Many thanks for the review. Really appreciate it! GreenishPickle! (🔔) 16:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]