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why the "False flag operations" category?
[edit]I know "Le Monde diplomaticque" wrote such thing about AQIM, but they are very keen on conspiracy theories.83.7.93.7 (talk) 02:51, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- If there's no cited reference to false flag operations in the article, feel free to remove the category. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 04:25, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- You know, I don't really care that much. Maybe it is False Flag. I added a link that contains such opinions by some notable people(not Le Monde Diplo).155.158.32.2 (talk) 10:25, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see the link you're talking about. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 04:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Removing the False Flag category as there is no source given and no evidence it is true. Gazkthul (talk) 05:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- I don't see the link you're talking about. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 04:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- You know, I don't really care that much. Maybe it is False Flag. I added a link that contains such opinions by some notable people(not Le Monde Diplo).155.158.32.2 (talk) 10:25, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
New leader
[edit]this organisation seems to have a new leader ?! just have a look : http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2374355 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.136.159.104 (talk) 17:40, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Widely believed to be DRS-created
[edit]As per a number of articles from Al-Jazeera English (see [1] for a list), I have inserted into the article that it is strongly believed to have been created, if not directly controlled, by Algerian intelligence. The emirs have also been reputed to be agents of the DRS, serving the agency as a method of propping up exaggerated and fabricated claims of a terrorist threat by perpetrating terrorist acts. Through purporting to be jihadis, and attracting dupes through recruitment tactics, AQIM creates a pretext for crackdowns on opposition to Bouteflika's régime and other US/French client states in the region. France's interest in West and North African politics is imperialist, as it almost always has been, and there have been multiple coverups surrounding US/French involvement in Algeria. 68.227.56.16 (talk) 09:26, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
This is a theory, by one scolar Jeremy Keenan.[1] Most other reputable sources believe that Algerian Mukhabarat may heve been involved as one of many actors in the 1990's, but they have chased most of AQIM out of Algeria, anulling any supposed benefit. The 2013 gas plant attack by AQIM proves the opposite: they make Algerian secret police look weak, and seriously reduced Algeria's (and Mukhabarat's) national income. As the 2013 events prove, AQIM is focussing largely away from Algeria, into the southern fringes of the Sahara, where extreme poverty in Tuareg, Moor and Fulani speaking black groups, partly caused by Sufi-justified feudalism, makes a much better recruiting ground for amassing infantery. 82.95.147.126 (talk) 22:37, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
References
[edit]Chapter about their ideology vis a vis other Muslims, and their stategy?
[edit]What I hear is they are co-founded by ex-Polisario fighters gone religious. This would explain their choice for Qutbist Islam (which is more socialist and anti - feudal, hence anti-Malikte) As I understand from contacts in Mauritania and Mali, their strategy is to recruit from Muslims, disenfranchised by main stream (Malikite) Islam in Northern Africa. It is important for anyone who wants to reduce AQIM's potential breeding- and recruiting ground, or who wants to end policies that feeds AQIM and their likes with recruits. (Such as now feudal Islam ruling much of rural Libya.) I stuffed it in the event-section, but it merits its own chapter, I think. Anyone wanna do it? Or can I? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pieter Felix Smit (talk • contribs) 12:10, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
- Is this under entered under Major attacks since 2002? Pmolloy291 (talk) 03:07, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
AQIM in trouble?
[edit]I read several news stories that: AQIM faces many desertions after violence against its own fighters, and a leadership struggle, AQIM quarrel about how to share rantsom money, AQIM faces Malian Tuareg factions, threatening taking up arms against them.
The source that I trust best is Raby ould Idoumou, because his work for AMDH is excellent. [1]
Does this merit an additional paragraph? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pieter Felix Smit (talk • contribs) 08:24, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Deletion: Biased sorce
[edit]The following was deleted, for being a biased source. The author of the article is an US Republican Congressman.
AQIM is heavily involved in drug trafficking, smuggling as well as other criminal activities,[1] Jorgejch (talk) 02:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- ^ William Thornbery (September 2011). "Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb" (PDF). CSIS. Retrieved 17 January 2013.
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Deletion
[edit]Hi ... I wasn't clear what the basis was for this deletion. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:04, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Article that references total money earned from kidnapping since 2011 does not contain fact
[edit]I see the author referenced a BBC News article to justify the statement "AQIM...is estimated to have raised more than $50 million in the last decade". However the article that was referenced does not contain this fact.
In fact I have read a similar fact in New York Times "AQIM is estimated to have amassed as much as $90 million or more in ransoms over the past decade". Where did the $50 million come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.18.22.13 (talk) 09:28, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Telegraph: Baron: AQIM "probably" has chemical weapons
[edit]Any reason not to put it in? Rolf H Nelson (talk) 03:42, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Leave it out. Why? Reading the article: it runs from 'could have acquired' into 'probably'. This seems speculation only, without a hint of evidence, by a man who is not a specialist in Saharan militant organisations, nor in the Lybian war. Put it in as soon as there is an other, more beliefwqorthy independent source, or bits of evidence.82.95.147.126 (talk) 22:22, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback, we'll leave it out then. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 02:06, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Split tag March 2013 - Edwin Dyer
[edit]I think I understand the rationale for a separate article. Edwin Dyer is notable only for the manner of his death. Therefore, he should remain as a paragraph in this article. I will make sure there is a redirect to this article. Op47 (talk) 22:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
- I merged this paragraph into the Timeline of attacks before noticing the redirect. I have edited the redirect, but the paragraph can be reverted to a separate one if need be. Gazkthul (talk) 02:40, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Split proposal
[edit]I propose splitting the sections of this article that deal with the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC) into their own article of that name. At the time the organization was a largely Algerian focused and based group, which evolved considerably after joining al Qaeda. A summary section can be created that describes how this group evolved into AQIM, while all sections of the article that refer to the GSPC be migrated to it. Gazkthul (talk) 06:06, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- Support, we did the same with the predecessors to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Charles Essie (talk) 21:00, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Seems nothing had been done about this despite no objections, so I have now split parts of the article into the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat. User2534 (talk) 21:35, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Capitalization of Al-Qaeda in name
[edit]I started a discussion on how to format names with al-Qaeda in the title at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Terrorism#Acronyms of groups with al-Qaeda in name.~Technophant (talk) 17:42, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
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