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Requested move 2008

This was a surprisingly contentious issue at WP:CAPS a while ago, and I feel obliged to put this issue to rest. This concerns the capitalization of "like" when being used as a preposition. Since the "like" in proper nouns such as "Freak L(l)ike Me" is being used as a preposition, it technically shouldn't be capitalized. However, almost all media sources capitalize "like," so there's little point in following some Wikipedia guideline if it doesn't make logical sense. — Xnux the Echidna 01:46, 23 November 2008 (UTC) [reply]

- Do It like a Robot → Do It Like a Robot

Half this article is about a cover of the song. that song should have its own page, rather than take up almost this entire article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.7.183 (talk) 02:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2012

Freak Like Me → Freak like Me – "like" is a preposition less than five letters long, so it shouldn't be capitalised. Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music)#Capitalization. See also Moves like Jagger, Someone like Me and A Girl like Me. Unreal7 (talk) 17:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Jafeluv (talk) 11:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use of notable cover version single cover

Since the images, File:Dontchafreaklikme.JPG has been removed by one editor citing WP:NFCC and reverted by two other editors also citing WP:NFCC, I am starting a discussion here so that the image is not deleted simply for being orphaned.

The single cover for the Sugababes cover version passes the points of WP:NFCC. WP:NFCC#3 is met because the single cover is used for identification its version and the Adina Howard single cover cannot convey equivalent significant information and/or identification of Sugababes's version. WP:NFCC#8 is met because the single cover are used for identification and the image increases readers' understanding and not having them would be detrimental to the understanding of Sugababes's version. The single cover passes the first example of acceptable use of fair images at WP:NFCI: "Cover art: Cover art from various items, for visual identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary)."

The current consensus for single covers in section infoboxes to represent notable cover versions are that they pass WP:NFCC and WP:NFCI. Since WP:SONGCOVER says notable cover versions should be covered in the article about the song and not have its own article, but if it had its own article, the image would be acceptable there, so it is acceptable in the sections of the song article. The single cover is not alternate cover for the Adina Howard cover, it is the primary cover for Sugababes's version and should be treated as such. If it is felt that the image should still be removed than the image should be taken to Wikipedia:Files for deletion instead of simply removed from the article. Aspects (talk) 05:14, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sugababes version

Yes it has the same name, but you can't really call it a cover version when it uses a completely different backing track. It's similar to another Richard X production, "Being Nobody" (that's a mashup too - taking "Ain't Nobody" and putting it over the backing track of "Being Boiled"). That song's notable enough for its own article and its pretty much in the same boat as "Freak like Me", and this song was even more successful so I believe the Sugababes song really warrants its own article. Whether the fact that it doesn't have an article is due to boths songs having the same name I don't know, although according to iTunes, the mashup song wasn't even originally called "Freak like Me", but "Are Freaks Electric?".[1]. Unreal7 (talk) 10:19, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The backing track doesn't matter. It a bit like saying Leona Lewis's version of "Run" isn't a cover version because the backing music is different from the original, or the Michael Andrews and Gary Jules version of "Mad World", for example (and thousands of others). It's not a mash-up because it uses newly recorded vocals. It's a cover version, using a sample from another song. –anemone projectors– 14:26, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Leona Lewis' cover of "Run" is the same as the original except that it's played using a piano instead of a guitar. Unreal7 (talk) 14:56, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And the Sugababes version of "Freak like Me" is the same as the original except that it uses a sample from another song as it's backing track. So no difference between "Freak like Me" and "Run", then, in that they're both cover versions, and neither are mash-ups. If it used Adina Howard's vocals instead of newly recorded vocals, then it would probably be a mash-up. The Sugababes version uses a sample of one song, but isn't a mash-up of two existing songs. From Mashup (music) - "A mashup is a song or composition created by blending two or more pre-recorded songs, usually by overlaying the vocal track of one song seamlessly over the instrumental track of another." –anemone projectors– 10:01, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 November 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:43, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Freak like Me → Freak Like Me – CAPS Jax 0677 (talk) 17:24, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Steel1943 (talk) 18:08, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for "Like me" in article titles pulls up mixed results for "Like" being capitalized and not capitalized if it's not the first or last word. Also, it seems that Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization) isn't completely clear where the usage of the word "like" falls and if it is applicable to its guideline. Steel1943 (talk) 18:08, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jax 0677: This move request has been moved to full discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 18:08, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - No reason has been provided as to why the caps is better or helpful than lowercase, Simply saying "CAPS" is not enough, I would suggest this be speedy closed. –Davey2010^Talk 21:57, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.