Talk:Grimes
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On 17 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Grimes (musician) to Grimes. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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Removal of Devon Welsh and Jaime Brooks from relationships category
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Requested move 17 March 2022
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. I'm not thrilled by the quality of most of the arguments here, but there is a huge majority of support !votes, and I find User:UpdateNerd's argument the most convincing. Thus, I am going ahead with the move. (closed by non-admin page mover) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 02:40, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
– The musician is the likely Primary Topic. Luke Grimes is the next-most likely sought-after topic, but its unlikely people are namesearching his last name. Rick Grimes, a fictional character, is of very little enduring notability (at least once they stop greenlighting The Walking Dead seasons of progressively worse quality). Notable place names, e.g. Grimes County, Texas, are also unlikely targets, imo. Grimes the musician accounts for approximately half of page views among possible targets. Selected page views. mass views Schierbecker (talk) 02:43, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support. This is the only case in which a qualifier isn't needed to explicate the subject being referred to. The disambiguation page would be the logical place to look for lesser-known topics that use the word as part of their name. UpdateNerd (talk) 04:48, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. For a topic to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it must be
more likely than all the other topics combined more likely than all the other topics combined
. That is not the case here, due to the popularity of the name; we have hundred of articles that could be reasonable referred to, many of which have high reader counts, some of which the nominator has listed, and others that they haven't, such as Cameron Grimes, Jedward, Camryn Grimes, and Darren Grimes. BilledMammal (talk) 11:01, 17 March 2022 (UTC)- The musician actually is
more likely than all the other topics combined
, and by a very big margin [1]. The question here is, given that the musician is currently the overwhelming primary topic with respect to usage, is she also the primary topic with respect to long-term significance? – Uanfala (talk) 14:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- The musician actually is
- Support. There are many people with the surname Grimes but it's safe to say Claire Boucher is the primary topic for someone with a single-word name "Grimes". 114.125.93.8 (talk) 22:45, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:25, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Per nom, in this case nearly everything else is a WP:PTM. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:23, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. Bizarre BizarreTalk modern to me 20:47, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose no benefit to readers. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:35, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support it's recentism, and will probably revert to a DAB in the fullness of time. But right now, the celebrity actually is the primary topic. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 18:16, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support. I agree there's a primary topic by usage. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:12, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support as I agree that this is the primary topic by usage. Aoba47 (talk) 12:59, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support. As others said, there's a primary topic by usage. Nikscholarly20 (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Both sources for her relationship with Chelsea Manning cite anonymous sources?
I had seen the various articles about Grimes' alleged relationship with whistleblower Chelsea Manning pop up earlier this year but none of them ever provided any real evidence and exclusively cited anonymous sources. I was pretty surprised to see the relationship mentioned on the Grimes article, wouldn't those sources be considered unreliable by Wikipedia's standards? Jiaenx (talk) 01:50, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Her name
Why does the article keep calling her Boucher instead of Grimes? I realize it's her born name, but is it the name she goes by? 66.205.135.119 (talk) 18:50, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Also, it's done inconsistently. Phifty (talk) 02:42, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- The article should follow the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography#Subsequent use guidelines, and not inconsistently switch back and forth between her mononym stage name "Grimes" and her birth surname "Boucher", even if some of the events predate her use of that stage name (see Lady Gaga and Elton John for some examples) Zzyzx11 (talk) 20:17, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Life
Can Early Life & Personal Life be combined into all one section? If so, what should it be titled? LWu22 (talk) 21:16, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
not sure this is necessary or helpful
This section under personal life seems to be unnecessary and not notable. I'm not clear how it adds to her notability. I had removed it, but another editor re-added it. What is the consensus here? If other editors believe it should be removed, please do so. -LWu22 (talk) 21:54, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
"Grimes has stated that she had surgery to prevent blue light from entering her eyes. Doctors subsequently said that her claims "made no sense". Grimes has also stated that she once got in trouble for throwing a snowball at Queen Elizabeth II while in high school. However, Elizabeth II visited Vancouver once when Claire was at school in 2002 and it wasn't snowing at the time." LWu22 (talk) 21:54, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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