Talk:Killing of Tyre Nichols

Alleged copy violations rewrite

A copy-right violation was placed on the entire body of the article. I have utilized the temp rewrite page to rewrite Talk:Killing of Tyre Nichols/Temp; though, it is not clear what the alleged violations are/were. A earwig report can be found (link here) TL:DR violation unlikely. AgntOtrth (talk) 04:55, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

AgntOtrth I agree with you that in this case, it is unlikely, but 39% can go either way. It only becomes clear that it is unlikely after examining it, and realizing that the commonalities are in the names of people, organizations, titles, and double-quoted text. If it wasn't close to 100% certain there was no violation at the outset, then you should not have copied the material to the temp page. If it turns out that there is no violation in the live article, then that's the end of it, and you're good. If, however, it turns out that there *is* a violation in the live article (or could have been, before investigation ruled it out) then by copying it to the /temp page you have made the problem worse, because now there are two pages that have to be REVDEL'd, instead of just one. Copyrighted material is not permitted on any page at Wikipedia, not just articles, but also subpages, talk pages, sandboxes, and so on. If you need to create a test page, you must do it away from any Wikimedia property.

I realize you are still new here, so no worries, you're good; but if you need to investigate a *possible* COPYVIO in the future, please do not copy the suspect page anywhere on Wikimedia. If you are done with the test page, you may request it to be deleted by placing {{Db-g7}} at the top of the page. See WP:G7. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 00:10, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Metric conversion

@Combefere: Re this edit: [1], could you show me where MOS:UNITS prevents conversion to metric units? Thanks, WWGB (talk) 10:30, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Naturally, the base units in this article would be US customary. But MOS:CONVERSIONS states:

Generally, conversions to and from metric units and US or imperial units should be provided, except: [...] In some topic areas (for example maritime subjects where nautical miles are the primary units, or American football where yards are primary) it can be excessive to provide a conversion for every quantity.

And this isn't about sailing or sportsball, so I don't get why conversions shouldn't be included. Bowler the Carmine | talk 15:24, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

As a non-American, I would really like the provision of conversions. starship.paint (exalt) 00:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

After reviewing, I believe this is my mistake in understanding the MOS. Still learning. My B. Combefere ❯❯❯ Talk 19:33, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

remove archive page #4 ?

The fourth archive page has all the same stuff as the current talk page. Seems like some cleanup is necessary to avoid confusion. 72.14.126.22 (talk) 22:50, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

 Done. WWGB (talk) 22:59, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

my bad, thought I was helping AgntOtrth (talk) 01:50, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Tyre Nichols' autopsy reveals brain injuries from blunt force trauma, attorneys say

New article from NPR:

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/03/1173857299/tyre-nichols-autopsy-memphis-police

The attorneys for the family of Tyre Nichols say the medical examiner's official autopsy report shows he died by injuries from blunt force trauma — which they say is "highly consistent" with their independent autopsy conducted in January.

The family of the 29-year-old who died after being beaten by Memphis police officers was briefed on his autopsy results Wednesday, nearly four months after his death.

The Shelby County, Tenn., District Attorney's Office has not yet released results from the autopsy to the public. The DA's office did not respond to NPR's immediate request for comment on the results.

"We know now what we knew then. Tyre Nichols died from blunt force trauma and the manner of death was homicide," attorneys Ben Crump and Antonio Romanucci said in a statement sent to NPR.

Important content for the article. 72.14.126.22 (talk) 06:28, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Lead Section

I have reverted these changes by @AgntOtrth:. Nichols was not simply subjected to a traffic stop; he was killed. That's the title of the article, that's what the article is about, and that needs to be included in the lead. We cannot omit the killing of Tyre Nichols from Killing of Tyre Nichols.

I also took issue with other edits to the lead, including replacing the relative time to Nichols' death in the hospital with the date so as to further obscure its relation to the beating that caused his death.

It is well established by dozens and dozens of RSs that five officers of MPD killed Nichols. Persistently rewording the article to try to cast doubt on this established fact breaks WP:NPOV. Combefere ★ Talk 19:17, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

The lead that you reverted to is verifiably FALSE. He was not killed on January 7. He was subjected to a traffic stop and beaten.And died 3 days later. To say he was killed on Jan 7, is so far from the truth.

He was not struck with "batons" (plural/multiple. He was struck several times with a single baton, by 1 officer. The lead as I edited it is so clear as to what happened to Nichols. I find it incredulous that someone could read the lead and think anyone was attempting to down play what happened to him.

Could you please explain how January 10, 2023" obscures anything? Three days later was January 10, 2023, so there is no obscuring anything.

Again, what you reverted to is verifiably false. AgntOtrth (talk) 21:29, 3 June 2023 (UTC)