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November 2020
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2020 United States gubernatorial elections map
Hello. I changed File:2020 gubernatorial election results map.svg to a version with more detailed outlines, an accurate representation of the Northern Mariana Islands, and all territories closer to their true locations, similar to File:USStateandTerritorialControl2020elections.svg. I also changed the color of Puerto Rico closer to what the PNP uses and for better contrast with the white background. Then I edited the polygons in {{2020 United States gubernatorial elections imagemap}} to match the new map. Why did you revert my edits? Did something not look right? Perhaps you had to refresh your cache to see the updated image. Heitordp (talk) 03:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Heitordp: Thanks for the message! I reverted them because they were not consistent with other gubernatorial elections maps, see File:2018 United States gubernatorial election results.svg and File:2016 gubernatorial election results map.svg for examples. Politicsfan4 (talk) 04:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply. File:2014 gubernatorial election results map.svg is also different, so I didn't think that it was necessary to keep exactly the same shape in all years. Would it be acceptable if I changed all election maps that include territories? And for now, may I at least use the different color for Puerto Rico? The previous maps don't have a color for the PNP. Heitordp (talk) 05:18, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, the 2014 map is weird (I'm getting around to fixing it) and inconsistent, but if you take a look at every other gubernatorial map, they have the same shapes as the 2016 and 2018 versions (also, take a look at its file history: it used to have the consistent shapes). About the PNP color, I wouldn't change it, as the party shading template is typically used for the colors on American election maps, and the PNP's shading (Template:Party shading/New Progressive Party (Puerto Rico)) is the one already in place on the 2020 map. Overall, I would just leave the status quo, as both the existing shapes and colors are the most consistent between maps (also, note that it would be laborious to also have to change the shapes in each of the imagemaps). Thanks! Politicsfan4 (talk) 05:34, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply. File:2014 gubernatorial election results map.svg is also different, so I didn't think that it was necessary to keep exactly the same shape in all years. Would it be acceptable if I changed all election maps that include territories? And for now, may I at least use the different color for Puerto Rico? The previous maps don't have a color for the PNP. Heitordp (talk) 05:18, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
@Politicsfan4: Sorry if I'm insisting too much, but I still think that the maps need some small improvements, described below. They would be consistent and not difficult to make.
- I'd like to fix the shape of the Northern Mariana Islands, as the "four aligned dots" look nothing like the real archipelago, and to swap its position with American Samoa to reflect its proximity to Guam. This change has already been done in the blank map File:Blank USA, w territories.svg and in the election maps from 1990 to 1999. It would require only a small adjustment in the image maps, as they use rectangles for these territories. I'm willing to do this change for all years since 2000. Would you accept this? The maps before 1990 don't show territories but maybe I can add them later too.
- The colors in the party shading templates are meant to be used as background colors in cell tables containing black text. They are too light to be used on maps with white background. Indeed, the Democratic and Republican "light" colors on the maps are actually darker than their shading templates, and all 3 shades of the PNP in File:Puerto Rico Governor 2020.svg are darker than its shading template as well. In addition, political parties have other templates with darker colors, to be used in table cells containing white or no text, such as Template:New Progressive Party (Puerto Rico)/meta/color used in 2020 United States gubernatorial elections#Puerto Rico and File:United States Governors map.svg. I understand that the election maps use lighter colors for "hold", so I suggest either a light version of Template:New Progressive Party (Puerto Rico)/meta/color or one of the shades in File:Puerto Rico Governor 2020.svg. I prefer the former to make it more different from the Democratic color. Either would be an improvement, as Puerto Rico is barely visible on the map with the current color. If you agree, I can also make this change to previous election maps for consistency.
- Should we also color DC in years when the mayor is elected? DC is mentioned in the articles for some years and already linked in the image maps. If we are not going to color DC, I suggest removing the circle and leaving only its actual shape, like the maps that don't show territories. Thanks. Heitordp (talk) 00:23, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
@Heitordp: Thanks for leaving the message. I definitely agree with your suggestions concerning the Northern Mariana Islands, as the shapes should be fixed. I also agree with your suggestions about coloring in the District of Columbia. I would recommend coloring it in blue on the maps, instead of removing it entirely. Finally, now that I have taken a closer look, I agree with your suggestion about changing the PNP color on the 2020 map. Also, the 2016 gubernatorial map has Puerto Rico colored in Democratic for some reason, so I would change that to the PNP color as well. Thanks! Politicsfan4 (talk) 00:53, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'll start making these changes. Heitordp (talk) 01:37, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
1972 Delaware Map
Hey politicsfan4,
I am not sure how to appropriately source an svg, but I can provide the resources I used to create the image.
I found the results in this PDF: https://elections.delaware.gov/electionresults/pdfs/1972.pdf.
I drew the House Districts (which are the lowest level of results available) by hand based on their legal descriptions here: https://delcode.delaware.gov/sessionlaws/ga126/chp280.shtml
Let me know if I can help more. I should've sourced this when I made it.
SpeedMcCool (talk) 19:06, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- No problem, I was just making sure that there was an accurate source, as there were none listed. Thank you! -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 19:09, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Just a heads up
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- @Thanoscar21: Thanks! My account is new to Wikipedia, so I have not yet quite adjusted. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 22:16, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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"Fixing" redirects
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- @Surtsicna: Thank you! I was not fully aware of this before. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 13:06, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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Discretionary sanctions violation
Hello. Your edit to Donald Trump violated the active arbitration remedies in effect on that page, as Talk:Donald Trump, which states:
- "24-hr BRD cycle: If a change you make to this article is reverted, you may not reinstate that change unless you discuss the issue on the talk page and wait 24 hours (from the time of the original edit)."
Please revert yourself immediately, to avoid arbitration enforcement sanctions. Thank you. Spartan7W § 16:31, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Spartan7W: Literally the same thing happened to you. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 16:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Also, the lede explicitly states to not change the language without discussion, which you did. I was just reverting it back to what it was. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 16:34, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Spartan7W: Literally the same thing happened to you. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 16:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I never know what to say for a subject header
Hey Politicsfan4, my name is Rebestalic
Make sure you follow community consensus! :) I saw your edit on the opening paragraph of Donald Trump--remember you're not supposed to edit it! I am aware you did have a discussion on it but I mean, there wasn't a consensus supporting your idea--6-2 majority to have no change.
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I can agree with your username I am also a politic fan lol :D --Ilikememes128 (talk) 21:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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Joe Biden RfC
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My county results on county pages keep getting reverted
Hello! These users Adolphus79 and Magnolia677 are accusing me of adding county results from 1880 to 1908 to some county pages and I’m doing nothing wrong. I saw the county results on their state's election pages on Wikipedia despite Wikipedia not being a reliable source and both users keep reverting my results when I saw the results. I don’t want more trouble and I don’t know how to stop them. TylerKutschbach (talk) 05:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @TylerKutschbach: As long as there is a reliable source for the changes, then I don't see anything wrong with it. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
I did put a reliable source for them but even with the source gets reverted too. https://www.ourcampaigns.com/PresidentList.html this is the source I used for the 1880 to 1908 results and if you click on the state name there’s a link to it and will even show history details and it’ll even show a map for some county results from those times and I think they’re not clicking on the state links. TylerKutschbach (talk) 14:54, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @TylerKutschbach: Then I have no idea why it was reverted. On an unrelated note, have you seen the message that I left on your talk page? -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 14:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Of course I saw the message and I’ll fix it as the best I can TylerKutschbach (talk) 20:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 20:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- The ourcampaigns website is user generated, like a wiki, and the user that created that page (or added the content) has done nothing to provide a source for the information. That means it completely fails Wikipedia's reliability and verifiability guidelines. - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Adolphus79: That may be, but good luck removing it entirely from Wikipedia, as numerous (probably hundreds) of election maps and results pages cite it as a source. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 23:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- The ourcampaigns website is user generated, like a wiki, and the user that created that page (or added the content) has done nothing to provide a source for the information. That means it completely fails Wikipedia's reliability and verifiability guidelines. - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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"Served as" vs. "was"
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Edit-warring?
You do realise you've breached the 1RR at Joe Biden. -- GoodDay (talk) 07:05, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- There is a talk page section open - please make you case there and stop edit warring or you are likely to be sanctioned -----Snowded TALK 07:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- @GoodDay and Snowded: Understood - Thank you. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 14:02, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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Response: Virginia county results on your 1880 presidential map
The Democrats and Readjusters were two different tickets. The book I used said not to count them as the same. As the article says, "The Readjuster ticket received 31,527 votes, but the Funder Democrats took 96,449 votes, enough to defeat the Republicans, whose slate had 84,020." So I'd say the map of Virginia 1880 results is incorrect since it shows the Readjuster ticket and the Funder Democrats results combined as one ticket. I noticed this new map a few weeks ago and thought the same thing before I signed in and saw your question. Tilden76
Trump template
Take a look at Obama's template as shown here:
Also Bush's.
Valjean (talk) 05:25, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Valjean: Template:Barack Obama series doesn't say "44th President of the United States", just "President of the United States", likewise for Template:George W. Bush series. I'm fine with the addition of the number of the presidency, but I would suggest including it in every other template for consistency. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 12:48, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Oops! I see that I confused this template with the box above it, which always mentions the number (for all presidents). Your reversion seems proper.
- We still have a problem with the first line of Trump's template stating that he is still the president, unlike the templates for other former presidents. All the templates should be standardized. For convenience, here are some links:
- Template:Joe Biden series
- Template:Donald Trump series (the line "President of the United States" should be lower down, after the type of content found on the templates for the other presidents)
- Template:Barack Obama series
- Template:George W. Bush series
- Template:Bill Clinton series
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- Template:Ronald Reagan series
Making a map
Hello.I saw some great political maps in your user page. I am interested in making maps as you do and I want to make some county maps of Isfahan Province. What software should I use to design maps? پخش مطلب (talk) 04:57, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- @پخش مطلب: - Hey, thanks for asking. The maps that you saw on my user page were all derived from other existing political maps, and all I did was edit the source code to change the specific results colors. For example, File:South Dakota Senate Election Results by County, 2020.svg that I uploaded was derived from File:South Dakota Senate Election Results by County, 2014.svg, and I just changed the counties' fill hex color codes under "Inspect element" in Chrome, and saved the new edited map to my computer, where I then uploaded it to Wikipedia. I am not that experienced with mapmaking, but from what I know, if there are existing SVG political maps that you would like to edit, then I would suggest this method (as it is the only one that I know of). If you want to create political maps of places where there are none existing, I would suggest using software such as Inkscape to draw your map. I would suggest making an SVG map, rather than a PNG version, as it is much higher quality and easier to edit, since you can edit its code. Just search "Inkscape map making SVG tutorial" in Google and videos should pop up. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 01:17, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- For the example that you gave, Isfahan Province already has a county map under this file: File:Isfahan counties.svg. I would suggest going into the map's code itself and editing what you want from there. This can be easily accomplished in Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge by right-clicking where you want to edit on the map, and then clicking "Inspect", or alternatively clicking Ctrl+Shift+I will get you there. A source code sidebar should pop up on your screen, and you can edit it from there, by changing the colors ("fill="), border colors ("stroke="), border width ("stroke-width="), among other aspects. Once you have finished, scroll to the very top of the sidebar, right-click, and then click "copy element". Make sure you copy all elements that you want to save. If you are using Windows, paste all copied elements into Microsoft Notepad, and save it as an SVG file by adding ".svg" to the end of the file name. That's all there is. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 01:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much for helping me.I passed all the steps you taught me. After saving the Notepad file and adding svg to end of the file name, the edited image does not appear. What do you think the main problem is?پخش مطلب (talk) 10:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- @پخش مطلب: Hey, I'm not sure what went wrong if you followed all the steps completely. What is showing up on your screen? Is it just blank, or does the original image appear? Perhaps the problem could be that not all elements were pasted into notepad. Also, make sure to add ".svg" to the end of the filename, not just "svg". -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 14:02, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello. It is blank and this sentence appears : (( windows Photo Viewer can not open this picture because the file appears to be damaged corrupted or is too large. ))پخش مطلب (talk) 14:41, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- @پخش مطلب: This makes more sense now. Try to open it in a browser, such as Chrome, instead of Photo viewer, and it should work better. -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 14:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
I think the problem is with Windows and I have to use Inkscape software. Thank you for your guidance and for your attention to this matter.پخش مطلب (talk) 20:23, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Your recent rv on Deb Haaland
Hi, So I saw that you reverted an addition to Deb Haaland's infobox, taking away the Vice Chair position. If you believe that those positions aren't notable, you may want to check this, the same new user has been adding them to a lot of politicians in recent days. I've been working on rving a lot of unnecessary edits he's made. –Aaronw1109 (talk) (contribs) 08:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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You are a 4-month old account, so I don't want to bite a newbie, but your edits on this article are verging into edit warring, which you really don't want to do. If you have problems with the infobox as I have corrected it, to remove inaccurate information, post your argument on the article talk page, and DO NOT EDIT WAR.
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- @Beyond My Ken: thanks, not trying to edit war. I just now realized that the prior infobox was incorrect. I’ve also changed “infobox politician” to “infobox officeholder” since they are the same thing. — Politicsfan4 (talk) 15:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Andrew Jackson photo
Why is it such a big deal just to use an actual image? Martin Van Buren and John Quincy Adams have official images, plus everyone seemed fine with the change until you put it back the way it was, why? What’s wrong with the actual image? TomVenam2021 (talk) 08:42, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- @TomVenam2021: the portrait was fine before - other presidents use portraits in their infoboxes as well. But if you really want to change it, then go ahead. — Politicsfan4 (talk) 13:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, the only other presidents with portraits in their infoboxes were the first 5, who never had a picture taken. I’ll change it. TomVenam2021 (talk) 21:59, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
US presidential boxes
You show up, revert my multiple edits & then walk away. How collaborative of you. GoodDay (talk) 01:20, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- @GoodDay: As I understand it, you removed the series boxes without any consensus. I simply restored them. — Politicsfan4 (talk) 13:35, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Congressional Election Infoboxes
Why does it make sense to link to an election that is not the one immediately prior to the subject of the page? Jdavi333 (talk) 13:07, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Jdavi333: Because they are only special elections, and not important enough to be included. They were not regularly scheduled, and only a handful of them occur each year. It also would be extremely tedious to change this for every House and Senate election article, which span centuries. — Politicsfan4 (talk) 14:49, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Even if they are not regularly scheduled, I think almost every odd numbered year has an election since 1789. I would be happy to change the articles over the next few week. Takes 2 seconds per article. If the only reason is tediousness, I will do it. Jdavi333 (talk) 15:15, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Why did you revert to an older diagram on Scottish Parliament?
Hey,
I sourced a new diagram directly from the Scottish Parliament Corporate Body that is a more accurate representation of the seats in the Parliament on wikicommons. I was inspired by people adding newer diagrams to the Australian House of Representatives, Australian Senate, New Zealand House of Representatives etc.
Please open a discussion on wikicommons or give a reason why you revert a change in your edit summary next time :)
Egroeg5 (talk) 19:55, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
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Pine Barrens Byway marker
I looked at the source for the graphic, and there's nothing in the document that says that the markers for New Jersey's byways are in the public domain. As a default, we assume anything like that is protected by copyright and subject to fair use unless proven otherwise. Works of the federal government and a few specific states are automatically PD, but New Jersey isn't one of those states with that policy. That is, unless, there is a different source out there saying otherwise. Years ago, I received an email from MDOT saying that all of Michigan's markers were in the public domain, and that email was logged in commons:Commons:OTRS. That's how the Pure Michigan Byway, the Michigan Heritage Route and Capitol Loop markers were uploaded as PD even though they aren't specifically listed in the Michigan MUTCD, which is the document that has the general copyright release for the state's other highway markers.
So there are three ways forward:
- Find a source that says the byway markers are PD/freely licensed for use/re-use;
- Email an NJDOT official to get the byways markers released into the PD or appropriately licensed for our use/re-used and log that email with OTRS; or
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One caveat for fair-use: the marker graphics could only be used on an individual article about the specific byway. I don't think we could use them in the listicle article on the byways. We certainly couldn't use them in other articles, like the tourist route section of the Garden State Parkway article's infobox. Imzadi 1979 → 03:47, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Imzadi1979: the marker and photos for the Delaware River Scenic Byway, a similar byway in New Jersey, is licensed as PD by the FHWA. I suppose it could be the same for the Pine Barrens Marker? -- Politicsfan4 (talk) 03:57, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- That specific version of the Delaware River Scenic Byway marker, yes. Note that it isn't the same marker as what NJDOT shows in their byway guide. The FHWA link wouldn't have anything to do with the Pine Barrens Byway graphic though.The guide says "These guidelines comply with the New Jersey Roadway Design Manual and the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD), which define state and national sign regulations." The New Jersey Roadway Design Manual doesn't have anything about signs and copyrights, so it's no help to us on this. Unlike Michigan, New Jersey doesn't have its own MUTCD. The federal MUTCD itself has a copyright release in its text, so the markers shown within that manual are PD. The federal MUTCD doesn't list the NJ byway markers, just as the Michigan MUTCD doesn't list the Capitol Loop marker. That's why I emailed MDOT for clarification and got a reply that states that all of Michigan's markers are PD; that reply is logged in OTRS. Imzadi 1979 → 04:18, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you for your fantastic political mapmaking skills! Your maps are highly informative and bring needed color and complexity to election articles! Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 05:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC) |
Reminder about MOS:SEAOFBLUE
Hello, I reverted your recent contribution[1] at Barack Obama. Under MOS:SEAOFBLUE we don't typically put two links (like Honolulu, Hawaii) together in that nature. I wasn't sure if your aware of the guideline. Happy editing! Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 03:35, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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Looking for help
Can you clean up Tim Pawlenty? Could use a little as it seems sporadically edited over the last few years. Thank you — Teddies1 (talk) 13:46, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Veep candidate pages
Howdy. Checked over the Republican and Democratic vice presidential candidate selection pages & couldn't find the discussion that resulted in a consensus to delete the top images & infoboxes. Therefore myself & at least two other editors have restored them. GoodDay (talk) 04:12, 27 August 2022 (UTC)