Talk:Marina Ovsyannikova
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March 2022
Hi, HansClumsy. I am confused why you deleted my request for this page to be deleted without discussing it. Please explain - Réunion (stylised) - (talk to me) 20:10, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging user Ymblanter here as well. There wasn't an explanation to the removal of the deletion, so I'm confused why I shouldn't be able to re-add here - Réunion (stylised) - (talk to me) 20:13, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- We are not required to provide an explanation. Please read WP:PROD. Ymblanter (talk) 20:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- I see, my apologies. Réunion (stylised) - (talk to me) 20:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Special times require special actions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C8:9743:E100:B4DB:6AE1:814B:ECE4 (talk) 21:28, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- I see, my apologies. Réunion (stylised) - (talk to me) 20:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- We are not required to provide an explanation. Please read WP:PROD. Ymblanter (talk) 20:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Please don't delete this page. At the very least, don't delete it NOW. If it truly turns out to be worthy of deleting, we will soon know. Evangeline (talk) 02:29, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be any reason to delete such a well referenced article.
- Agreed, the article is well-referenced and is relevant to current events. As such, I also agree that it should not be deleted. Avereo (talk) 04:02, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- I also think that it should not be deleted.
- This article is relevant to current events and assisted me in learning more and confirming information posted elsewhere was correct. 74.137.224.73 (talk) 04:42, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
The main argument against it is it's "speedy" creation, but that is invalid when it's so well referenced with historical information Kennedy (talk) 03:22, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think another main point against the page's deletion was that she hadn't had a wikipage about her before her noble event, meaning that she wouldn't have fit the Wiki standards under WP:BIO1E - Réunion (stylised) - (talk to me) 04:43, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
As of today, this woman is an important historical figure. Why delete the page? Evan R. Murphy (talk) 05:27, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- I totally agree with you. This is a well referenced page and the woman will be in history books for standing up against the propaganda machine from Moscow. This will be an important moment in history, and by deleting pages like this, by deleting moments like this from written history, you help Putin erase his resistance. Like there never was any resistance. So I strongly resist the deletion of this page. Deleting this page is denying the truth. Seishonagon3 (talk) 09:32, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
I vote to keep this well-sourced article. Per WP:1E, she is notable because she is the primary actor in a notable event. Channel 1 is a tightly controlled propaganda machine for the Kremlin, and the newscaster is one that Putin likes to watch. These make the event notable because the protest happened live on one of the Kremlin-controlled TV stations. Websurfer2 (talk) 08:19, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Delete discussion is over here folks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Marina_Ovsyannikova
Timing
I'm sure this will come out in reporting, but in terms of what time this event happened, oldest clip I see on twitter right now is from 9:45pm Moscow time (14 March 2022).[1] (Translation: "Live, Channel One. An unknown girl ran out with a poster "No war" and stood behind Ekaterina Andreeva")--Milowent • hasspoken 21:02, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Veracity
Conspiracy theories flying around on social media that this is an info-op. Some verification that it was broadcast live in Russia would be useful. Christiaan (talk) 10:12, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Sleeper account (?) - user:Pahanda - removing information and reference
User:Pahanda has just made his/her second edit in two and a half years. The edit removed sourced information. 89.8.146.21 (talk) 11:06, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
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