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Zoe's Signature

To whom it may concern:

Per Zoe's request, I've made an edit to remove Zoe's signature from her page. Please contact us if you have any further questions or if you require more information: bmd@morrisyorn.com

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.107.113.2 (talk) 21:13, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RfC regarding signature

Should the article contain Saldana's signature? See File:Zoe Saldana signature.svg. Binksternet (talk) 05:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Poll

  • No. First reason is that Saldana's signature is flowery and artistic, with unneeded flourishes such as the horizontal line through the Z and the final curlicue, making it an artistic work (rather than standard cursive writing) which means it should be deleted on Commons. Regardless of what Commons does with the signature, I think we should respect the wishes of a living person to have their signature removed. It's too easy to forge Saldana's signature if someone has access to a high quality digital scalable replica. As seen in the post above and at User talk:38.107.113.2, Saldana's attorney at Morris Yorn has politely requested the signature be removed, quoting the essay Wikipedia:Signatures of living persons which says "Concerns about privacy and identity theft make it imperative that signatures be removed upon the request of the subject." The hard policy of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons also contains guidance about respecting the privacy of living persons as well as causing the least harm, though it says nothing explicit about signatures. Since Saldana is not famous for her signature (she is not John Hancock or Picasso) I see no good reason to harm Saldana more than we have already. The signature should be absent. Binksternet (talk) 05:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There is a deletion request on Commons that claims to be from her attorneys. – Rhain ☔ 22:56, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Chris.sherlock. We represent Zoe has her attorneys at Morris Yorn. If you Google "Zoe Saldana" and "Morris Yorn," you will see that we are mentioned in most press releases as her representatives. If you'd like to contact me further to discuss, I am reachable at bmd@morrisyorn.com. Thanks.38.107.113.2 (talk) 17:39, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Rhain. As it's your image uploaded here, and in the interest of not dragging this out any longer, would you please delete the image from the Wiki Commons? The Deletion Request was filed in July and we'd love to resolve this. Thanks! 38.107.113.2 (talk) 23:09, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have that power. – Rhain ☔ 10:48, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The question isn't about whether the signature is real (it is), but whether its inclusion is justified. – Rhain ☔ 22:56, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • No Hi everyone. We represent Zoe Saldana as her attorneys. This is not meant as a legal threat or action. She has requested that we work on removing her signature from this site due to privacy concerns and identity theft. I'd please like to point to (here), the essay on Signatures of Living Persons which states: "Concerns about privacy and identity theft make it imperative that signatures be removed upon the request of the subject." Zoe has expressed to us (her representatives) that she would like her signature removed, so I'd like to ask that the community respect her wishes in this regard. Thank you. 38.107.113.2 (talk) 17:32, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • No for the same reasons as Binksternet. It's not appropropriate for WP:BLP.Fred (talk) 17:47, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, the article shouldn't contain a signature. IMO Wikipedia should include signatures for almost no living people. This is a big privacy problem for a very tiny (at most) educational value. The signature should be removed. I agree with the advice in Wikipedia:Signatures of living persons, which recommends against inclusion under these circumstancese. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:30, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi all. Are we able to wrap up this RfC? Thanks! 38.107.113.2 (talk) 23:16, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Meh. I don't buy the arguement that it is a work of art / artistic, but it seems that Saldana's attorneys want it deleted, and perhaps it's a matter where BLPPRIVACY would thus motivate removal. (And if her attorneys get the file deleted, that moots the discussion entirely.) -sche (talk) 00:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted based on the consensus here and in accordance with the Wikipedia:Signatures of living persons essay. I did this even though the request was made via her attorneys, because they are being very very careful to avoid making a legal threat. At the first hint of a legal threat, we would have had not choice but to refer this to WMF. -Arch dude (talk) 02:03, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 October 2021

Zoe Saldana → Zoe Saldaña – Saldaña has publicly discussed her name and credit change. The title should be changed per WP:NAMECHANGES. Some RS from the last week that reflect the change: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/arts/television/maya-and-the-three-netflix.html https://collider.com/maya-and-the-three-zoe-saldana-interview/ https://www.polygon.com/22745515/zoe-saldana-maya-and-the-three-interview https://www.vulture.com/article/maya-and-the-three-netflix-animated-miniseries-jorge-r-gutierrez-interview.html etc. The closest comparison I can find is Talk:Thandiwe_Newton#Thandiwe, which was changed within a day lol. Axem Titanium (talk) 06:20, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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