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Following the discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Help Project#New editnotice to help fight WP:CREEP]], an [[WP:editnotice|editnotice]] [[Template_talk:Editnotices/Page/Help:Introduction#Consolidated_request_for_Template:Simple_help_page_notice|has been added]] to a bunch of help pages targeted specifically at newcomers. This notice, which appears above the editing box (''not'' to people just reading the page normally), will hopefully help prevent [[WP:CREEP]]. This page is one of the more bloated pages on Wikipedia (it needs some [[WP:TNT|TNT]] at this point, really), so I think it could benefit from the notice as well; would others agree? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 17:39, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Following the discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Help Project#New editnotice to help fight WP:CREEP]], an [[WP:editnotice|editnotice]] [[Template_talk:Editnotices/Page/Help:Introduction#Consolidated_request_for_Template:Simple_help_page_notice|has been added]] to a bunch of help pages targeted specifically at newcomers. This notice, which appears above the editing box (''not'' to people just reading the page normally), will hopefully help prevent [[WP:CREEP]]. This page is one of the more bloated pages on Wikipedia (it needs some [[WP:TNT|TNT]] at this point, really), so I think it could benefit from the notice as well; would others agree? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 17:39, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
:Seeing no replies, I'm going to go ahead and add the notice. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 08:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
== "Wikipedia:Wikipedia" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
== "Wikipedia:Wikipedia" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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Adding an image to top?

I think it would be nice to add some sort of visual element at the top of this page, since the stats (while nice; they should be kept) don't add much visual appeal by themselves. Here are two candidates:

The first one has the drawback of being racially specific in a way that could reinforce stereotypes about Wikipedians, and the second one has the drawback of being oddly shaped unless cropped, so I'd be open to other suggestions, too, if anyone finds any. Sdkb (talk) 17:32, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I found a better one, File:Wikipedia Community cartoon - high quality.png, and added it. Sdkb (talk) 22:43, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reducing the amount of content about contributing

This is obvious but worth stating — one of the biases that all regular Wikipedia contributors have is that we're inclined, way more than your average visitor to the site, to focus on the act of contributing to Wikipedia as opposed to the act of just casually reading it. (WP:READER, although that's not saying quite the same thing) This page is the reader introduction to Wikipedia, though, not the contributor introduction, so I think we ought to significantly reduce the amount here about contributing. We're not going to have room here for a stand-alone mini-tutorial on contributing, so it's better to just note that readers can also contribute and then point them to better places to learn more. Would there be support for that? Sdkb (talk) 07:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mulling this over, I still feel similarly, but I think the page is also way too long in general. So when I get around to revamping it, I'll probably make it much shorter overall. The details can go in Wikipedia or in other WP-space pages. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 07:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to start going through and making some cuts. If anyone else is here and wants to discuss plans, feel free to let me know. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 02:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agree whole article could use a big trim. Let's make sure it's not an advertisement for other pages.....give real information here on what to do. Registration is up because of COVID but retention is way down. Let try to give consumable information on this one page.--Moxy 🍁 03:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics of Wikipedia

The statistics in the article are derived with {{NUMBEROF|ARTICLES|total|N}} however this includes both active and closed wikis (there are currently 12 closed wikis). To calculate for active wikis use {{NUMBEROF|ARTICLES|totalactive|N}}. This seems like a more fair/accurate way, except when displaying historical numbers.

Example:

  • {{NUMBEROF|ARTICLES|total|N}} = 63,886,165
  • {{NUMBEROF|ARTICLES|totalactive|N}} = 63,886,135
-- GreenC 15:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@GreenC: sounds good to me. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 16:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent thanks (this is a new feature of NUMBEROF as of a few hours ago). -- GreenC 17:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit button

Button has changed its look. Could be changed. EnTerbury (talk) 17:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Editnotice about keeping this page simple/streamlining

Following the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Help Project#New editnotice to help fight WP:CREEP, an editnotice has been added to a bunch of help pages targeted specifically at newcomers. This notice, which appears above the editing box (not to people just reading the page normally), will hopefully help prevent WP:CREEP. This page is one of the more bloated pages on Wikipedia (it needs some TNT at this point, really), so I think it could benefit from the notice as well; would others agree? {{u|Sdkb}}talk 17:39, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing no replies, I'm going to go ahead and add the notice. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 08:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Wikipedia:Wikipedia" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Wikipedia:Wikipedia. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 25#Wikipedia:Wikipedia until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. the ultraUsurper 05:17, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Wikipedia:EDIA" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Wikipedia:EDIA. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 19#Wikipedia:EDIA until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 10:54, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]