User talk:68.50.40.47

Wikipedia admins don't follow their own stated policies. It enables bullying.

Occupation of Poland (1939-1945)

Hi. I have reverted an edit of yours on this article, and would like to remind you about WP:BRD. When your Bold edit has been Reverted by another editor, the recommended next step, if you continue to think the edit is necessary, is to Discuss the dispute on the article talk page with other editors, but not to re-revert it, which is the first step to edit warring, a disruptive activity which is not allowed. Discussion on the talk page is the only way we have of reaching consensus, which is central to resolving editing disputes in an amicable and collegial manner, which is why communicating your concerns to your fellow editors is essential. While the discussion is going on, the article generally should remain in the status quo ante until the consensus as to what to do is reached (see WP:STATUSQUO). Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:00, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Occupation of Poland (1939-1945). - Do it again and you'll be reported for removing sourced information without a consensus to do so. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:05, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:13, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

August 2019

Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for making personal attacks towards other editors. Namely, here.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Lourdes 06:31, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address and you are an uninvolved editor with a registered account, you may continue to edit by logging in.

This user is asking that their block be reviewed:

68.50.40.47 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

the editor who I disparaged User:Beyond My Ken was engaging in bullying. He was reverting my edits not because he disagreed with them (he has since clarified that he does agree that the content was wrong), but rather because he wanted to assert his domination on this website. If you examine his edit history, you will see he uses wikipedia explicitly for the goal of citing AN/I on other editors again and again. It is his hobby. I may have violated a policy against calling a spade a spade when that spade is a fellow editor, but by blocking me you have encouraged his bullying. 68.50.40.47 (talk) 06:41, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

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{{unblock reviewed |1=the editor who I disparaged [[User:Beyond My Ken]] was engaging in bullying. He was reverting my edits not because he disagreed with them (he has since clarified that he does agree that the content was wrong), but rather because he wanted to assert his domination on this website. If you examine his edit history, you will see he uses wikipedia explicitly for the goal of citing AN/I on other editors again and again. It is his hobby. I may have violated a policy against calling a spade a spade when that spade is a fellow editor, but by blocking me you have encouraged his bullying. [[Special:Contributions/68.50.40.47|68.50.40.47]] ([[User talk:68.50.40.47#top|talk]]) 06:41, 25 August 2019 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

• Just to be clear, I do not agree with the IP that the material is "wrong" and should be deleted. Much like the last discussion about it that was held on the talk page five years ago, I think the language needs to be tweaked a little -- that's not the same thing, and it certainly doesn't warrant total removal. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:51, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

lol, User:Beyond My Ken appears to stipulate that he uses wikipedia to bully other editors. 68.50.40.47 (talk) 06:55, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Just to state the painfully obvious I don't "stipulate" any such thing, and I absolutely do not use Wikipedia to bully other editors. I edit Wikipedia to improve the articles so they provide accurate information, are well written and visually interesting, and serve our readers as best we can. I've been doing that for 14 years, and I will continue to do so as long as I am able to contribute. Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:11, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

I've been doing it since December 2003, woo, look, I'm senior! (sarcasm) I gave up maintaining an account on here long ago because bullying is so prevalent here. 68.50.40.47 (talk) 07:26, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

• Given your response above and above, I realize that your agenda is to continue attacks on other editors. In the light of this, here's the deal – you'll have to basically apologise for the personal attack and you'll have to remove the personal attack. You'll have to guarantee that you will not repeat such behaviour. You will also have to stop harassing other editors by alluding to their editing as bullying. Do this, and your block would not be extended beyond 31 hours. Your response will decide whether any administrator should increase the block or let it remain at 31 hours. Thanks, Lourdes 07:01, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Uh, I have demonstrated on Talk:Occupation Of Poland (1939-1945) that I am able and willing to contribute meaningfully and civilly to Wikipedia and that User:Beyond My Ken coming on to me with an instant threat to bring me to the attention of AN/I was unwarranted and that this entire interaction could have gone smoothly if he had merely indicated that he was willing to have a discussion on that article's talk page. He did not indicate to me he was willing to have that content-based discussion even after we had several back and forths in which I indicated I wished he would do so. It is my belief that he only contributed to the article's talk page because he recognized that it looked bad that he had involved AN/I before even attempting to discuss the matter. If you think that wikipedia is improved by blocking contributors whenever a bully asks you to then I do not think there is anything I can do to help you. Engaging in bullying is bad for wikipedia and is a constant complaint of new editors. Personal attacks *are* bad, and so is bullying. You're picking sides, here. 68.50.40.47 (talk) 07:14, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Seriously, look at his edit history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=912382997

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68.50.40.47 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Also, the Wikipedia:No personal attacks policy says I deserve a warning, not an instant block. As an aside, the logic for rejecting personal attacks is the same as the logic against using threats to block another editor in place of reasoned debate. 68.50.40.47 (talk) 06:44, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

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