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*'''Oppose''' I agree that this is notable, but there's no blurb I can support. The alts are clumsy and perhaps a bit editorial, and the original makes it seem that the winner was the incumbent. This ordeal would have been an excellent candidate for an on-going item when Ergodan originally called for a new vote, but this particular twist of the story doesn't seem suitable as a stand alone.[[Special:Contributions/91.153.84.73|91.153.84.73]] ([[User talk:91.153.84.73|talk]]) 05:07, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' I agree that this is notable, but there's no blurb I can support. The alts are clumsy and perhaps a bit editorial, and the original makes it seem that the winner was the incumbent. This ordeal would have been an excellent candidate for an on-going item when Ergodan originally called for a new vote, but this particular twist of the story doesn't seem suitable as a stand alone.[[Special:Contributions/91.153.84.73|91.153.84.73]] ([[User talk:91.153.84.73|talk]]) 05:07, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' as local politics...with a transnational geopolitical impact. [[User:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:black">'''——'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:black">''SerialNumber''</span>]][[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:#8B0000">54129</span>]] 05:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' as local politics...with a transnational geopolitical impact. [[User:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:black">'''——'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:black">''SerialNumber''</span>]][[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:#8B0000">54129</span>]] 05:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' altblurb 2. International impact. [[Special:Contributions/129.97.58.107|129.97.58.107]] ([[User talk:129.97.58.107|talk]]) 23:23, 26 June 2019 (UTC)


==== (Posted) RD: Dave Bartholomew====
==== (Posted) RD: Dave Bartholomew====

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June 26

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2008 Universal fire

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Article: 2008 Universal fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A large group of musicians sue Universal Music Group over the loss of master copies and back-ups in the 2008 Universal fire (pictured). (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Losses in fire much worse that UMG originally admitted. Compounded by storing masters and safeties in same location. $100m lawsuit. Mjroots (talk) 07:56, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 25

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Disasters and accidents
  • One woman dies and 21 people are affected after eating lunch in a Seventh-day Adventist church in the district of Sorochuco, department of Cajamarca, in Peru. The causes of the poisoning are not yet clear. (El Comercio)
  • A brush fire burns at least 32,000 acres of land in the Florida Everglades amid near record-breaking temperatures. (Accuweather)

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(Posted) RD: Etika/Daniel Amofah

Article: Etika (streamer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, NYPost
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Yes, this article just got created today, but it's been one of those people that we likely could have had an article before on GNG notability (eg using pre-April 2019 news searching), and while it is presently at "Death of..." we're talking about getting it moved to either his online name or his proper name. He likely died on the 19th or 20th (apparent suicide, still investigating) but body was only found this morning. Masem (t) 17:16, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 24

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(Posted) RD: Iván Erőd

Article: Iván Erőd (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Die Presse
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Composer who grew up and was trained in Budapest, emigrated to Vienna, where he became a pianist and professor at the Academy. - I worked on his article in 2011, others before and after. I updated the existing refs, and will add more from obituaries. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:36, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2026 Winter Olympics

Articles: 2026 Winter Olympics (talk · history · tag) and 2026 Winter Paralympics (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Milan and Cortina d'Ampezzo are elected by the International Olympic Committee as host city of the 2026 Winter Olympics and Paralympic Games. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Yogwi21 (talk) 16:11, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 23

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(Posted) 2019 Amhara Region coup d'état attempt

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Article: 2019 Amhara Region coup d'état attempt (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ During a coup attempt in the Amhara Region in Ethiopia, President of the Amhara Region Ambachew Mekonnen and Chief of Staff of the Ethiopian National Defense Force, Gen. Se'are Mekonnen are assassinated. (Post)
News source(s): Ethiopia Observer, AP, BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: I think two major political figures of Ethiopia have been assassinated --LLcentury (talk) 22:29, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I thought ITNR meant "Current Events" section, I didn't find in ITNR plus deleted that it was. --LLcentury (talk) 22:33, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per quality improvements. Please disregard the rest of my comments in this thread. Oppose on quality, support on notability Article tagged as being in the process of restructuring. The infobox says that the event took place on "15-16 July 2016" even though the article is obviously from 2019, so it's clearly not ready to be posted. News coverage shows that the event is notable, but the quality concerns are overwhelming right now. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 22:38, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I don't understand, the coup was foiled yesterday but it apparently took place 15-16 --LLcentury (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My best guess is that the infobox was made by copying and pasting a different infobox from a different event? I would assume that means that the rest of the information in it is questionable, too. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 22:49, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Suspicions confirmed: they literally took the infobox from the 2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt (which took place on 15-16 July 2016) and just pasted it into this article without bothering to replace all of the information. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 22:51, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I was using that infobox as a template. If you read the content, it will be immediately apparent that all the information has been replaced.--Varavour (talk) 23:00, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That wasn't the case at the time when I left those comments, but I appreciate the work you're doing to update the article. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 23:03, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So was Major General Gizae Aberra. We have to draw the line somewhere. Migbaru Kebede was attorney general of Amhara not all of Ethiopia. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 15:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Same goes for the president, though. Not arguing for inclusion, just saying. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:59, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
Yes, the blurb should mention the Chief of General Staff first. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 03:36, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The military has 162,000 or so active members. The region has about 31 million. One leader is clearly going to be more widely mourned, or at least better recognized. I endorse the dead president for top billing. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:49, June 25, 2019 (UTC)

Istanbul Election

Article: June 2019 Istanbul mayoral election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In a rerun of the Istanbul mayoral election, Ekrem İmamoğlu is again elected mayor. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ After the March 2019 Istanbul mayoral election was controversially overturned with the support of the President of Turkey, whose party lost, Ekrem İmamoğlu is again elected mayor in the re-run, and by a greater margin.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In a defeat for the leading AK Party, Ekrem İmamoğlu increases his winning vote count in the rerun of the Istanbul mayoral election, a key decider in the direction of Turkish national politics.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Opposition candidate Ekrem İmamoğlu soundly defeats ruling AKP Party candidate Binali Yıldırım in a rerun of Istanbul's mayoral election.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: I think this is notable because of the controversy around the initial election. I think that with >99% of the vote counted, it is safe to put on the main page. StudiesWorld (talk) 20:41, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support altblurb Oppose Good faith nomination, but ITN doesn't usually post municipal elections unless the circumstances are exceptional. It does appear to be a unique election due to the fact that this is a repeat of the March 2019 mayoral election, but if there's not more to the story than the June 2019 election taking place to legitimize the results of the much narrower March election, I doubt it will be posted. If there's more details that I'm ignorant of, please let me know and I'll reconsider my !vote. Struck initial !vote due to the details described below Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 21:37, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Something about Erdogan wanting the re-run because he said there were irregularities, hoping his party would be elected instead, but instead he lost even more votes. More Turks are losing favor for Erdogan, and it's particularly funny that he said "whoever wins Istanbul wins the country" - if he's right, the party he helped found could be kicked out of power after 18 years of authoritarianism. There's been a lot of protests, and it's actually quite a big step, but that needs to be clear. Kingsif (talk) 21:42, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd post in a heartbeat Erdogan's reign finally coming to an end, but if this is just a step towards that, I'm not sure. I'm still open to changing my !vote, I just need to get more educated on the important details of the story. If I'm not mistaken, this is the situation: Erdogan (as president of the nation) decided that the first election was illegitimate after his party lost, then another election was held, and his party lost even more than it did the first time. I can definitely see that being more than just local politics, but I think we need a better blurb first. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 21:54, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We should really be careful to elevate major city mayoral elections as having national importance. I recognize the importance here but it's still speculation that it will have an impact in the future. Same can be said about may city elections. --Masem (t) 00:23, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand that, it's reflected in my comment above, but it has definitely already had an impact in the fact that Erdogan had the election recalled and then lost nearly a million extra votes. Kingsif (talk) 00:33, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Getting stale. Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 01:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Dave Bartholomew

Article: Dave Bartholomew (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Nola
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Centenarian Hall of Fame musician who created Rock 'n' Roll in Louisiana and recent death --LLcentury (talk) 17:59, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've added sources where requested. What is the "contentious" claim? My experience of the Black Cat Rockabilly site (over at least the last decade) is that it is very accurate and reliable (far more so than, for example, Allmusic). It is written by acknowledged experts in what is a relatively specialized field (R&B and early rock and roll). However, other sources do exist for much of the material and can be used if preferred. If there is little about Bartholomew's personal life, it is because little has been published, though more details may emerge in obituaries. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:23, 24 June 2019 (UTC) PS: Now further updated, expanded, etc., and no "Black Cat Rockabilly" citations remain. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Espresso Addict: per @Ghmyrtle: FYC. --LLcentury (talk) 17:33, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Žarko Varajić

Article: Žarko Varajić (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Eurohoops
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Yugoslavian/Serbian basketball player and executive, record holder for most points in a Euroleague final game --Tdunsky (talk) 15:31, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 22

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(Posted) RD: Roger Béteille

Article: Roger Béteille (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Figaro
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article sourced. Death was announced today --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:01, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2019 European Games

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


 --Чаховіч Уладзіслаў (talk) 06:29, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose no blurb offered. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:32, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Even if the nominator provides a blurb, they should probably do one or both of the following: 1) wait until the European Games have concluded and nominate a blurb mentioning which country ultimately wins the games 2) re-nominate as ongoing for the time being. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 07:52, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd say something something about how we've even got cricket in ongoing so surely this should be, but people would take me seriously. —Cryptic 10:16, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ongoing 50 nations participating in a multi-day multi-sport event. Maybe the medals table is better, whatever we do for the olympics. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:38, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not in the news, this is a minor event compared to the ITN/R ones. Just do a Google News search for "2019 European Games Minsk" and see the, er, complete lack of mainstream coverage. The article has 151 references, but 95% of them are either (a) the games' own website or associated ones (b) from Belarus, where it's being held, or (c) from sports bodies. And most of the ones that don't fall into those three categories (refs 6-14) aren't actually about the games, but the fact that the Netherlands bid for it and then pulled out. Black Kite (talk) 19:14, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That is, the 2019 Cricket World Cup is a more important sporting event? LOL --Чаховіч Уладзіслаў (talk) 20:02, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, given the mainstream news coverage of it (Google News is your friend here), yes, by at least two orders of magnitude. Erm, LOL. Black Kite (talk) 21:50, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's accurate to say there's a "complete lack of mainstream coverage." I did a quick search and found BBC, ABC, USA Today, etcetera covering the games. It certainly doesn't get the same kind of coverage that other games would (though this is only the second time that the European Games have ever taken place) but I wouldn't say that coverage is too scarce to make a blurb out of after the games are over. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 21:54, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's the thing, though. Take the BBC. If you look - for example - at the BBC sports page at the moment, there are 39 stories and this isn't one of them. It's even sixth on the athletics page. Black Kite (talk) 22:04, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Most people do not know what cricket is... --Чаховіч Уладзіслаў (talk) 10:11, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's five days of sandwiches, tea breaks and rain. Amazing entertainment. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:01, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - as a European who was aware that the games were underway, the coverage is too minimal, and the event itself lacking in significance, to justify posting. Precedent of previous listings is not especially applicable, and the fact that cricket exists is also a moot point (though arguments that it isn't either in the news or of interest to our readers remain ridiculous). Stormy clouds (talk) 08:11, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the views of these articles through a link on the Main Page. --Чаховіч Уладзіслаў (talk) 12:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And ... completely untrue, again. You're making a habit of this. The Women's World Cup got 200,000 views on 7 June, but wasn't added to the Main Page until late on the 8th June. The Cricket World Cup got between 70,000 and 140,000 views every day from the start of June to the 13th ... when it wasn't on the Main Page (it was added on the 14th). The European games has managed 19,000 views maximum on any one day. Black Kite (talk) 14:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Чаховіч Уладзіслаў - as someone who authors the Top 25 Report, I can assure you that a ITN listing will not drive anywhere near the volume of traffic required to get onto the report, as Black Kite demonstrated. Stormy clouds (talk) 20:43, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

June 21

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RD: Demetris Christofias

Article: Demetris Christofias (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Cyprus Mail, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Most of the claims on the article are sourced. Fairly recent president. --PootisHeavy (talk) 19:33, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Ongoing: 2019 Hong Kong Protests

Article: 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], [5]
Credits:

Nominator's comments: In my opinion, this should have been made an ongoing item when it was originally posted earlier this June. Keep in mind that the criterion of being "regularly updated" does not mean every single day must contain a significant update. Just "regular" updates are sufficient. The article has described significant demonstrations on: June 6, June 9, June 12, June 14, June 16, June 21. That seems pretty "regular" to me. And with the government's continual refusal to retract the bill, there is no apparent end in sight. Merlinsorca 19:10, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. I'm convinced this meets the criteria for Ongoing. Davey2116 (talk) 20:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "there is no apparent end in sight" well that's part of the problem isn't it? Ongoing items without a definite end seem very hard to pry out of the box. A million people protested June 9, how many on June 21 (the tiny update for that day doesn't say)? The article is quite good, and I thank Merlinsorca for evaluating the update frequency before nominating. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Because it might go on too long" shouldn't be a deciding factor for consideration, though. If the event happens to last a long time (and continues to be updated), I don't see a problem there. Merlinsorca 23:31, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The phony Venezuelan crisis was in the box for three months -- it's reasonable to discuss exit criteria for an Ongoing item before it goes in. So how many people showed up on June 21? --LaserLegs (talk) 00:13, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Which crisis/article are you referring to? I think it's perfectly fine to discuss it each time we want to remove it, but if you want my opinion for removal criteria, then it'd be after they reach some agreement that decisively ends the protests. All the sources I've found say it's "thousands" on June 21: [6] [7] Merlinsorca 01:44, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating this article. There's not a concrete number on the protesters on June 21 as protesters are decentrailized to different government buildings. But like Merlinsorca mentioned, the article only includes notable protests and demostrations. I believe big protests will end when the government decides to retract the "riot" characterization / release the protesters. Maybe that's the time when we could remove the article. –Wefk423 (talk) 11:39, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 20

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Business and economics
  • The Antitrust Division of the U.S. Justice Department files a lawsuit against two large printing companies contemplating a merger. If the deal is allowed to proceed, the filings claim, the combined company would dominate the market for printing magazines, catalogs and books. (Reuters)

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Sports

U.S. drone shot down

Article: 2019 Iranian shoot-down of American drone (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Iran shoots down an American surveillance drone in the Strait of Hormuz, continuing to escalate tensions (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Amid escalating tensions, an American surveillance drone is shot down by Iran
Credits:

Nominator's comments: I'm surprised there's nothing on the main page re biggest intl story of the moment. It appears that the shoot down is better covered on WP than the reported aborted US strike today, so makes a better ITN candidate. Optophone (talk) 18:36, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Article looks good, and covers a notable news story that will be relevant to many readers. Merlinsorca 18:53, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Trump reportedly canceled the military response, so this could be a fuss in the long-term. Brandmeistertalk 19:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral Yes, its causing major worldwide political strife particularly between US and Iran, and all the comments around possible counterstirke are furthering this. BUT it is a flash in the pan to speak. Assuming all it is doing is escalating tensions but no further attacks come out of it, it really amounts to nothing in the long term. Hence I would fight against posting this but think its not required. --Masem (t) 19:04, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I will state I'm opposed to ongoing for this. Yes, the story will be in the news for a while but it's already in the downward spiral - it created a brief jump in tensions but both US and Iran are backing off further hostilities. If that changes, then we can reconsider. --Masem (t) 04:56, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose unless this incident in particular actually does spark a US-Iranian war (which doesn’t seem to be case according to Trump), this is rather a just update to the ongoing tensions between the hostilities of the two nations. 2607:FCC8:B085:7F00:5963:8D8D:9F60:E8E9 (talk) 19:37, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ongoing the drama has been building for some time, Iran–United States relations is a good target, gets regular, high quality updates. Two tanker attacks and this inside of a few months is highly consequential. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:25, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ongoing I agree with LaserLegs. I think that ongoing better captures the context for this event. StudiesWorld (talk) 22:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question Can we accuse Iran of defending its airspace instead of continuing to escalate tensions? The news is mostly to blame for that. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:32, June 21, 2019 (UTC)
"Amidst escalating tensions, yadda yadda, defending its airspace." Allegedly or reportedly, if you want. Even just the first tweak wouldn't hurt. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:44, June 21, 2019 (UTC)
  • Maybe Alt 1 Lesser of two evils. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:15, June 21, 2019 (UTC)
  • Ongoing seems like the more appropriate route to me. Teemu08 (talk) 23:28, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ongoing – A major news story that continues to develop by the day. Kurtis (talk) 02:08, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral per Masem. The drone itself isn't particularly important; what made it so notable was that this briefly put the US and Iran on the brink of war with one another, but that crisis was thankfully averted rather quickly. Does that make the event any less notable? I don't know. Is ongoing appropriate here? I don't know either; the drone situation is already over. What would we post to ongoing? Iran–United States relations? That would be odd, because the target article wouldn't really be an event. If we have a viable target article for an ongoing event, then I'll easily support ongoing, but it doesn't seem right to post that the relations are ongoing. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 02:56, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The relations article is getting regular updates, including the drone incident, both tankers and the rhetoric. There is a subsection for the 2019 escalations which is getting regular, quality updates. Seems like an adequate target to me. --LaserLegs (talk) 03:04, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The relations article notes they've been ongoing since the Crimean War ended and RMS Persia was cool. I think the wizard's onto something here. Why start now, of all points in time? Because it's trending? InedibleHulk (talk) 04:05, June 22, 2019 (UTC)
Well it's "In the news" isn't it? Which is sort of the point of the box .... --LaserLegs (talk) 13:42, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
They'll be ongoing after leaving the news, too. Would we pull it when one country is no more, or sooner? At least the standalone shootdown has a contemporary beginning and end. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:39, June 22, 2019 (UTC)
Why is it necessary to WP:CFORK for ongoing but not a blurb? What is the value in duplicating the content? --LaserLegs (talk) 03:17, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I was not suggesting forking right now. I only pointed out that the current target article suggested is not suitable for ongoing. We should post a blurb now and by the time it rolls off we will have a clearer idea of whether it is ongoing. Notice the Iran–U.S. relations article now has three events we posted as blurb. A fourth event will surely require a content fork. Iran–United States relations has many sourcing issues. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 08:13, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Here's why I think it should be a blurb and not ongoing:
  1. There's precedent. The Gulf of Oman incident was posted as a blurb yet only a few non-military ships were damaged and there were 0 deaths.
  2. I'd argue this is more notable because here Iran is deliberately shooting down a U.S. military asset and not denying it.
  3. Trump was going to strike Iran, possibly killing 150 and starting a war, but apparently backed off in the last 10 minutes.
I think this event stands well enough alone. Many readers are going to be interested in this specific event (where a war almost happened), rather than a sprawling article on the general relationship between two countries. Merlinsorca 05:16, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose many things in life "escalate tensions", this is just one example. And now nothing has come of it, time to move on and wait for the next "escalating" moment in this decades-old conflict. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:26, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Anonymous sources confirm Iran possesses short-range Caspian tigers and Saudi Arabia commands a traveling Tiger Squad. Could get interesting. Remember the outrage when Copenhagen dismembered just one common giraffe? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:45, June 22, 2019 (UTC)
No doubt it could get interesting, but this sort of thing happens all the time, and unless it actually does escalate, it's just business as usual. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:59, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Quite so, old chap. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:08, June 22, 2019 (UTC)
Indeed the weather gets hot, and cold, and windy, and rainy ... balls are kicked, prime ministers replaced, old men die. Seems just about everything in the box has happened before, and yet, it is "in the news". --LaserLegs (talk) 13:40, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The first blurb somewhat gives the impression that this is a major escalation and it was caused by Iran shooting down the drone, while the escalation may have been caused by the alledged airspace violation. --Z 08:51, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb and consider ongoing when the blurb drops off the main page. This is an obvious case of serious international business that should be top priority for the main page. --Mkativerata (talk) 09:09, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Much rhetoric & media babble, no casualties. (Regarding the abortive U.S. retaliatory strike, one might even suspect elaborate political/military theater for the domestic and global opinion markets.) – Sca (talk) 13:37, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - "Trump orders military strike then calls it off" is not exactly a page-turner of a story. Ongoing isn't suitable either because we are currently in status quo. No serious escalation or ongoing activity is occurring to warrant a posting. Only if action significantly ramps up will this be noteworthy. Right now, it's just mutual Saber-rattling. WaltCip (talk) 15:55, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support either blurb or ongoing. This is a highly significant story. Davey2116 (talk) 18:30, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – Four supports, four opposes and four votes for ongoing isn't consensus any way you look at it. Deleted "ready." – Sca (talk) 20:43, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - 'piece of machinery destroyed with no casualties' isn't MP-worthy. The tensions may boil over into something, but I'm with WaltCip: it's just mutual sabre-rattling. - SchroCat (talk) 21:43, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment retaliatory cyber attacks - the first since cyber command gained combat status - it seems like the situation with Iran is "ongoing"? --LaserLegs (talk) 08:44, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support this is seeing plenty of coverage in mainstream media, and is likely to keep seeing coverage. Why wouldn't we feature this? Banedon (talk) 12:53, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ready five supports for a blurb and four for ongoing (which is a support in principle for posting this story to the box) does indeed consensus make. No need to remove it. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
More hype. Unconfirmed cyber attacks outlined by unidentified U.S. "officials" pose little additional significance three days after the event.
Sca (talk) 13:55, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. A US drone was shot down by Iran is the only factual element of this story. Everything else is a massive amount of rumormongering, conjecture, sabre-rattling, and other facets that WP and particularly ITN should not be playing wag the dog with. Should some military event emerge from all that that can be factually shown true, then we can talk a story. --Masem (t) 14:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Your "not ready" is really "I'm still opposed to this". Sorry boys, you had your oppose already, lots of comments, time for someone uninvolved to decide. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:13, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"five supports for a blurb and four for ongoing": please don't forget there are also six opposes that need to be taken into account. That's not a strong consensus for anything at all. - SchroCat (talk) 16:02, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Even my Maybe leans slightly toward opposition, if it has to count for something. Just kinda neat to learn a machine specially designed to avoid exactly this didn't. Certainly against ongoing, pending indication of when or how relations might hypothetically conclude. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:11, June 23, 2019 (UTC)
Getting stale. Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 21:42, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. GreatCaesarsGhost 16:57, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As explained previously, in the world of news it means what Franklin ostensibly said about fish and house guests (although that may be an apocryphal quote). — A three-day-old news story without further developments is getting stale, any Wiki rulebook assertions notwithstanding.
I don't agree at all: there seems to be considerable opposition to this - and on valid grounds too. (That's not to belittle the support votes or their rationale, but an acknowledgement that over a third of the !votes are opposing this, and no agreement between the other 2/3rds on what should happen. - SchroCat (talk) 16:47, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Considerable, yes; but exactly how many !votes are needed for consensus? 2/3 seems pretty good. That that 2/3 is split on blurb vs. ongoing should not favor posting nothing. GreatCaesarsGhost 16:57, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
While the news is covering all the saber-rattling on this between US and Iran, it is still saber-rattling. Outside of the drone being shot down, no other events have occurred, and we should not be posting any posturing between two countries. --Masem (t) 16:50, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
+1 - SchroCat (talk) 22:18, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Removed) Ongoing removal: 2018–19 Kivu Ebola epidemic

Article: 2018–19 Kivu Ebola epidemic (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: No evidence this is actually "in the news" and more importantly, not being continuously updated. LaserLegs (talk) 23:07, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the edit history you'll see changes every day but that isn't the same as updates every day. There are fixing refs, content reorgs, clarifications, but no substantial updates beyond death toll counter. This event has been "ongoing" since 2018 -- over a year. Are we really going to have it in the box until some period when no one is diagnosed as having contracted Ebola? This was a WP:MINIMUMDEATHS posting that should never have been ongoing, is not being continuously updated and needs to come out. --LaserLegs (talk) 23:07, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now at least. The revision history shows at least four dozen new revisions in the last few days, and those revisions do include non-minor substantial changes (such as introducing new paragraphs). I certainly don't agree with the assessment that it never should've been posted to begin with. As for whether or not it's still "in the news," I did a quick search and found several headlines from today alone that could be used to further update the article. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 23:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose it is an important article with good quality. MSN12102001 (talk) 23:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Though this isn't a WP:ITNR sports event, the AFC, CONMEBOL, CAF and UEFA are in it, so why not CONCACAF? See comment below. BenevolentBeast (talk) 17:03, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Eddie Garcia

Article: Eddie Garcia (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABS-CBN News, The Philippine Star, GMA News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: He is one of the prominent role in the Filipino industry BSrap (talk) 03:29, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 19

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents
  • Venezuelan refugee crisis
    • The UN predicts that over five million Venezuelans, over 15% of the nation's population, will have left the country by the end of 2019 since the start of the crisis in Venezuela—the total at the end of 2018 was 3.3 million. One million have left the country since November, with a daily average of 5,000 departures. Additionally, over 20% of all worldwide UN asylum requests are from Venezuelans; 350,000 applied in 2018 alone. (Financial Times)

Health and environment
  • Millions of people in southeast India face water shortages due to drought and depleted groundwater. (CBC)

International relations
  • Japan–North Korea relations
    • The Japanese coast guard says its patrol boats have been pushing back hundreds of North Korean boats trying to poach in fishing grounds rich with squid off Japan's northern coast. (Japan Today)

Law and crime
  • Malaysia Airlines Flight 17
    • Four people, three Russians and a Ukrainian, will be charged with murder for the crash that killed 298 people on July 17, 2014. The trial is to be held on March 9, 2020 and take place in Badhoevedorp, Netherlands. (CNN)
  • NXIVM leader Keith Raniere is found guilty of seven charges, including human trafficking, sex trafficking, sexual exploitation of a child, forced labor conspiracy, and racketeering. (NPR)

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Peng Xiaolian

Article: Peng Xiaolian (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Paper
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: One of the best known female Chinese film directors. I've referenced all sections, still adding more content. Zanhe (talk) 22:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2019 Indian heat wave

Article: 2019 Indian heat wave (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: One of the longest heat waves in India's history continues, leaving more than 184 dead (Post)
Alternative blurb: A heat wave in India reaches record temperatures and kills more than 184
Alternative blurb II: One of India's most severe and longest heat waves kills more than 184
Alternative blurb III: ​ One of the longest heat waves in India's history results in at least 184 dead.
News source(s): [8], [9]
Credits:

Nominator's comments: The heat wave is one of the India's longest and has broken or challenged multiple temperature records, and left at least 184 dead. I have yet to find an official toll that combines deaths from all states of India, but the death toll is definitely 100-250. Plus, there was previous support for including this article as a blurb hereMerlinsorca 13:22, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coffeeandcrumbs I might suggest that you avoid citing a nonexistent guideline in expressing support. If you feel that the level of casualties merits posting an event, simply say that. Thanks 331dot (talk) 11:35, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It was an ill-conceived attempt at sarcasm, intended as commentary on my opinion that this should have been posted the first time. I apologize. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 11:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Probably my fault -- I have found that anything I support here tends not to be posted, irrespective of whether or not I actively support the posting in discussion and/or updates. I stayed silent this time, and lo and behold. - Tenebris 66.11.171.90 (talk) 15:24, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support now (Alt1 - avoids superlatatives) - just a heat wave happening, as was nominated before, isn't much , but now appreciable death toll makes this a grave matter. I know that the outbreak story has elemenets that tie to this heat wave (The spread of the infection partially heightened by the heat) so there may be a potential to combine these two blurbs, but I am not passionate that this has to be done. --Masem (t) 14:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So then there aren't much worst diasters/weather events going on to make this a minor inconvenience for those suffering.? --LaserLegs (talk) 22:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sources say the heat wave is going on in some areas. [10] Merlinsorca 13:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It should be rephrased like "At least 184 people are killed in a heatwave in India." The Rambling Man (talk) 15:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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