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Wikimedia commons links

Re Saga Cruises and others. What is the point in replacing a simple and adequate template to link to Wikimedia commons material, as used on many hundreds of pages, with a verbose link and an inaccurate sub-heading? Murgatroyd49 (talk) 14:34, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi , My reasoning for adding an external link header and changing commons to commons-inline is because the commons template looks oddly placed ... It doesn't look right it being directly under references. It's generally preferred to have the commons template under an external links section instead of it just being randomly placed anywhere, I feel comparing the last revision to mine IMHO mine looks a lot neater and better,

The header is standard across all articles whether it's just a Commons link or not (IE we don't have ==Commons category==

Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 14:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

We will have to agree to disagree, I think it looks messy the way you do it. I see no problem it appearing bottom right as it does on most other pages. Your non-standard presentation actually makes it more difficult to find if you are used to the standard layout. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:42, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Murgatroyd49 Ofcourse my way doesn't work all the time and I would probably say just under half are never changed - If it looks silly or if it drags the article on so to speak then I won't change it I suppose it but I guess it comes down to the layout really,

Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Commons Links

(Moved from below. –Davey2010^Talk 19:56, 12 March 2019 (UTC))

What is wrong with using the correct icon links for Wikimedia commns on the Red Eagle, Red Osprey and Red Kestrel pages? Murgatroyd49 (talk) 13:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, We've already had a discussion on this here where it was decided we should agree to disagree, Like I said in that discussion my changes depend on the layout of the article and again "External links" is the norm even if there are no external links, Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 13:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Doesn't explain your insistence on removing the icon link. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 14:29, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Murgatroyd49 Sorry if I'm sounding dense but could you clarify what you mean ? ...

If you mean replacing the Commons box with an inlined version then I have explained this above which I'll requote "It's generally preferred to have the commons template under an external links section instead of it just being randomly placed anywhere"

Ofcourse on a few of the articles the commons box is directly under the infobox (such as here) however with this article it requires more scrolling and it drags the article on whereas having it my way reduces the length of the article and plus our readers then can find it much more easily - We don't know why people come to thes earticles, It may be for the information or it simply may be for the images so IMHO my way is much more helpful,

Thanks ,–Davey2010^Talk 14:39, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

That doesn't answer the question as to why use the inline version rather than the icon version as used more generally. It is a matter of consistency. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't see a problem with that, you can precede it with an ==External Links== subheader if you want to. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Well it does answer the question, I already do?......, Thanks for your message!. –Davey2010^Talk 19:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Cathy McMorris Rodgers

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Date formats

Just to let you know why I do block reverts of all your edits when you do date changes. Usually you make the date changes by script in the first edit. Then you make further edits (cleaning white space, adding {{dmy}} template, etc). I have no problem with the further edits. I always take the time to attempt to revert only the date change edit. However, when I try to revert the single date change edit, WP tells me that the other edits conflict with that single undo. Therefore, it becomes an all or nothing revert. I'm certainly not going to leave the date changes there, so my only option left is to revert the lot. If you did the date changes last then I could revert the date changes while leaving the good changes intact.  Stepho  talk  10:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Stepho-wrs, I've always done it this way since being here - Date formats first and everything thereafter, You've had issues with my date formats on various article for quite some time however it's only you that has an issue with it,

As I've said before I'm not going to keep a long list of articles that I shouldn't use the script on just to keep you happy - If various other editors had the same qualms then fine but IMHO it's not worth the effort all for the sake of one editor out of 5 billion!,

Not to be disrespectful but I also don't see why I should change way I edit here all for the sake of one editor either,

The best advice I can give is to simply revert and reapply my edits thereafter,

Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 11:20, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

If you are doing the right thing then you would have an argument that you could tell to the administrators to stop me reverting you. Other people being too lazy or turning a blind eye or perhaps their ignorance of the MOS is not an excuse. From my perspective, I see someone who keeps illegally changing the date format and then expects me to carefully sift through their changes to keep or not keep individual changes. Why should I have to spend ages picking through your changes? A tiny change to the order in which you apply your edits and the problem goes away for both of us.  Stepho  talk  11:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

If you went to ANI I would say exactly what I said here and if I'm sanctioned for that so be it,

It could be thousands of things - As you say editor's are too lazy to care, ignorance of MOS or IMHO they simply agree with my edits or don't see them violating MOS - As I said you can probably come up with over a thousand excuses however as I said I see it as people agreeing with my edits and I would assume if they did' disagree they'd come here,

If you don't revert me then there's no issue is there ?, Not to be funny but as I said you're the only one with continuous issues on this,

You're more than welcome to install importScript('User:Plastikspork/date.js'); and importScript('User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js'); //[[User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js]] to your Special:common.js page - Once installed you can click on "BIGENDIAN ref dates" and "UnSprk: cite date" which will then change those articles back but like I said given I don't keep track all of what I edit however doing it this way will hopefully put an end to this silliness.

Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 12:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Your .js page would be located at User:Stepho-wrs/common.js. –Davey2010^Talk 12:27, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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Emily Bear/ ssilvers and friends

I have informed people - as it seems ssilvers is a NY business and contract lawyer. There is obviously conflictof interest. Now I understand the double standard handling.Very likely there are personal/professional interests especially at JE article and hanling of others. What does one have to pay for a top rating..the same as getting kids to Harvard .. Just to let you know.

There are a few more mentioning of Emily Bear and her music in Nancy Drew reviews vulture, variety...if someone wants to update her article in future .

not my problem anymore..if &ssilvers loose his licence..maybe up to other lawyers. Goodbye english wiki and this kindergarden.Eifelochse (talk) 16:12, 15 March 2019 (UTC)