User talk:Lacypaperclip

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Reference list missing

Hi Lacypaperclip, have a look at your ref list fix. You have added the template before the ref tags! --GünniX (talk)

Hi GünniX, thanks for catching that. Happy WPCleanering! Lacypaperclip (talk) 07:07, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Kina Grannis

Hello!

Why were all the YouTube links removed in the music videos section?

In what sense is a musician with a million YouTube subscribers and multiple charting albums not-notable?

Which content, specifically, is written like an advertisement?

Thanks!

Kinerd518 (talk) 21:21, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

External links within the body of any article are not allowed. Sorry. Lacypaperclip (talk) 21:26, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Additionally you were warned about external links in body here: [1] Lacypaperclip (talk) 21:29, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_guidelines "External links should be kept minimal, meritable, and directly relevant to the article. Wikipedia is not an advertising opportunity." Kina Grannis is a musician, and the links were specifically to her official music videos - surely that's directly relevant and meritable. Such linking also survives all 19 of the criteria listed on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links#Links_normally_to_be_avoided Whether twelve links in a seven page article is minimal is a judgment call, but that's a far cry from flatly declaring external links as not allowed.

A stated reason in the warning you cite is copyright concerns. As I made explicit on my reversion, copyright is not relevant in this case. The bot also explicitly states "If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert." added emphasis mine.

I also would really like to hear your reasoning on the other two issues you painted the entire page with, at your earliest convenience.

Kinerd518 (talk) 01:29, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Here is the policy: Many videos hosted on YouTube or similar sites do not meet the standards for inclusion in External links sections, and copyright is of particular concern. Many YouTube videos of newscasts, shows or other content of interest to Wikipedia visitors are copyright violations and should not be linked, either in the article or in citations. Lacypaperclip (talk) 02:02, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Again, this doesn't say that external links aren't allowed though. It says "many videos hosted on YouTube", which necessarily implies that some are allowable. For these particular videos, there is no copyright violation, because they are music videos on the channel of the artist who owns the copyright.

Since you have not discussed adding the non-notable tag after I have made multiple attempts to engage you on it, I am removing it.

I look forward to working with you to address the other issues on this page! :)

Kinerd518 (talk) 15:21, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Kinerd518, I know I'm addressing this issue about two months after the fact, but I thought I would clarify on the above concerns about YouTube videos. There is zero issue with linking to a YouTube artist's main page in the "External links" section. However, linking to every video in the body of the text is "an advertising opportunity". In such lists of publications we do not necessarily need to verify that every video exists, thus we do not need direct links to said videos. Primefac (talk) 13:25, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Primefac! I do still feel there's some wiggle room in that policy but it's not worth getting in a war over, and I certainly see how it's relevant to the issue at hand. Kinerd518 (talk) 15:31, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

User name

Thanks very much for your compliment regarding my username, but I have to admit that rather than inventing it I borrowed it from 'The Young Ones', an 'alternative' comedy sitcom in the UK in the early 1980s in which a bunch of loser students lived in appalingly squalid conditions in a rented house. They played together in a useless band which was called 'alternative car park' because it was so, like, alternative. The key character Rick, played by Rick Mayall, was loathsomely narcissistic and hypocritically pretentious, claiming to be 'down with the kids' and wanting to bring on the revolution while in fact being irreconcilably middle class. Alternativecarpark (talk) 11:34, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Jeffrey Lawton

Thanks for your assistance on my recent Jeffrey Lawton article. It's a great help and will take note of your style for the future.Alfshire (talk) 22:05, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

You are welcome. Please ask if you have any questions. Lacypaperclip (talk) 22:09, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again, you just beat me to heading my talk reply - which I forgot to do. I will check out your articles as good guidelines I can use.Alfshire (talk) 22:15, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Bogus

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Manu Limbu. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 02:40, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Softlavender, you are incorrect in leaving this message here. I declined the speedy deletion and removed the speedy tag on purpose. I left a proper edit summary. See here:[2] Wow. Lacypaperclip (talk) 04:49, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

My error, somehow I thought only an administrator is allowed to remove a speedy deletion tag. That said, do not edit my thread header like you did here [3]; that is a blatant violation of WP:TPO. You may remove a notice you not like, but you may not violate TPO like that. Softlavender (talk) 04:56, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

I did not change your talk page message at all. I adjusted an incorrect header on my own talk page. I wonder how you came across this old speedy? You must not like some other posting I made today. I will thank you to stay off my talk page altogether. Lacypaperclip (talk) 05:02, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps you should re-read WP:TPO. It states here, [4]

• It is generally acceptable to change headings when a better heading is appropriate. Another heading was appropriate since as you stated above that you had made an error. Stop nit-picking. Lacypaperclip (talk) 05:09, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you for the pointers!

Thank you for your help (Artwriter99 (talk) 20:09, 3 December 2017 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artwriter99 (talk • contribs) 20:05, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Artwriter99 You are welcome. Please let me know if you have any questions. Lacypaperclip (talk) 02:10, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for you help on Vietnam Veterans for Factual History

I appreciate you helping to improve the article. If you think it's worth saving, would you mind commenting on the Afd page? Txantimedia (talk) 02:59, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

You are welcome. Please feel free to ask any questions here. I had already planned to look over that afd, thanks for mentioning it to me. Lacypaperclip (talk) 03:37, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Michael Moates

(Personal attack removed) -=Eduardo=- (talk) 15:45, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

04:23:09, 6 December 2017 review of submission by Km2196

• Km2196 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Craig Kalpakjian (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for your review of my article submission, but I just wanted to point out that regarding the subject's notability: you stated that "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability", but item 4(d) on the requirements for notability of creative professionals clearly calls for The person's work (or works) to be " ... (d) represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums." This Artist is represented in the collections of the Museum of Modern Art; the Whitney Museum of American Art; and the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York; the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, as well as the Centre Pompidou in Paris, as can be verified be the references included, on the websites of these museums, which are among the world's most significant and notable museums of contemporary art. 4(d) seems to plainly say that this in itself is enough to satisfy wikipedia's notability requirements. Please let me know if there are other problems or if any other references are inadequite. Most of the other references are also reliable, secondary, independent publications with significant reviews (not simply mentions).

Simply stating that the artist is represented in the permanent collections you list above is not good enough. The writer must include references to WP:RS that verify V those claims. In the lead it is necessary to put what the significance of the artist is. Please include references to WP:RS that discuss the artist with significant coverage, not just brief mentions or gallery listings or shows. I will take another look at the draft and see if I may add something more to show notability. Please ask here if you have any further questions. Thank you for contacting me. Lacypaperclip (talk) 06:51, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help with the article - I think I (finally) understand a bit better how to do this! I hopefully addressed the issues and have resubmitted. I included a summary describing his significance at the top, referenced museum exhibitions and inclusion in museum collections, fixed the close paraphrasing with a direct quote, and improved the referencing in general. Let me know if you find any other problems, hope this is good! Km2196 (talk) 20:46, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Km2196, I will take another look at this article tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for working on all the improvements. Lacypaperclip (talk) 23:31, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thank you for fine, and important corrections. OmegaMS (talk) 14:38, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Lacypaperclip (talk) 19:58, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

David Buchler

Hello,

I had my article declined on 1 December, so I made significant changes and resubmitted on the same day.

I know the waiting list is long and that the resubmitted draft may be reviewed by someone else, but I was wondering roughly how long it might take. The reason I ask is because you originally reviewed the first version withion only a few hours of submission, whereas the current draft was submitted 10 days ago. Any pointers?

Thanks and kind regards...

Hydra2017

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hydra2017 (talk • contribs) 11:12, 11 December 2017 (UTC) 

Hydra2017  Done Lacypaperclip (talk) 12:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

White House press corps

Due to the continued edit war, I had a lock put on the page. Now I can focus on other articles. Thank you for your help. Jamesharrison2014 (talk) 16:16, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

No problem. Good luck. Lacypaperclip (talk) 16:20, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

list of tags on wikipedia

this is a tag we use on wikipedia since 1994 its one of the official ones listed here do NOT remove it until consensus its self explanatory read here what is written

[hide]This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. (Learn how and when to remove these template messages) This article is written like a personal reflection or opinion essay that states a Wikipedia editor's personal feelings about a topic. (December 2017) This includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. (December 2017)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Maintenance_template_removal

you need to learn when to remove it . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.54.104.53 (talk) 14:27, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

It does not read like an essay to me, and there are a ton of footnotes. Thus, neither maintenance tag is appropriate and I have removed them. Primefac (talk) 14:31, 12 December 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

(ec) You need to learn how to see that there are 16 inline citations in the article. The article in not essay like. You have mis-applied these tags several times after it was explained to you. You can keep reinserting them if you want, but that is considered disruptive editing and or edit warring to insert incorrect warning tags. Lacypaperclip (talk) 14:34, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Primefac for weighing in on this one. Lacypaperclip (talk) 14:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Richie Gallo page

My wiki post contains materials that I have acquired as part of my research as I pursue a Master's Degree at the University of Louisville. There is nothing commercial about this, I have received no money from my research and was unfamiliar with almost everyone mentioned on the page at the beginning of my research process. Also I am not a relative of Richie and have no connection to his estate. I believe there is no conflict of interest on my end. But my language could be more neutral, I will try to rectify that. Richiegallo (talk) 16:16, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Richiegallo Thank you for your attention to this matter. It is an excellent and detailed article. With your editor name quite similar to the subjects's name, I did feel it was important to clarify if there was any family or business connection. Keep up your good work. Please feel free to post to me here if you have any questions. Lacypaperclip (talk) 16:54, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Richiegallo, if you are not Richie Gallo, then you will need to request a username change here, as we do not allow usernames to be the same as living/famous individuals. Primefac (talk) 17:27, 13 December 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Thanks for your help Primefac. It looks that Richiegallo has promptly requested a change. Lacypaperclip (talk) 17:45, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Article on DorothyTanner

Thank you, Laceypaperclip. I am happy to know the article has been accepted at the starter category. As I make improvements, is the page occasionally revisited by a reviewer? In other words, how does the page move up in the grading scheme? In appreciation, Barryraphael (talk) 14:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

You are welcome Barryraphael. I do keep a list of articles that I reviewed and accepted. I follow up with them frequently and re-assess as needed. If you improve Dorothy Tanner more, please feel free to drop me a note here, and I will look the article over. It is a quite detailed and interesting. Great job! I saw another editor but a blp sources on the article. You might want to find a few more references to add so that we may remove that tag. Lacypaperclip (talk) 14:55, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks, Lacypaperclip. I thought I had too many references and had removed quite a few as some were from articles from high school and college newspapers, as well as other local newspapers and magazines, but they are not well-known publications. I will look at my reference list again.

It has been difficult so far to reference articles that were written before the World Wide Web as many were from the 1950s (1) 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, and the early 1990s before Mel Tanner died in 1993. I did find a digital copy from a the University of Miami that had an article from 1970 that I referenced. Some of the newspapers have gone out of business or have seen sold. Fortunately, almost all of this project's articles have been kept in very good condition and recently all digitized. Do you think if I located more of these pre-Web articles through online searches that I could cite, that would be a great improvement to the Dorothy Tanner article.

I am a member of a not-for-profit archive project, Artyve, (https://arthyve.org/ whose members include artists, museum archivists, university librarians, and educators. An important part of the project is assembling a Wikipedia page of Denver artists, and I am representing Dorothy Tanner. I have been a volunteer archivist at the Tanner Studio for over 45 years. Dorothy Tanner is now 94 (her husband Mel Tanner passed in 1993) and Dorothy is preparing for a major exhibit commissioned by the City of Denver. I thought this would be a most appropriate time to write a Wikipedia article about Ms. Tanner.

I emailed my Sandbox page this past weekend to a Univ. of Colorado librarian who is the Wikipedia "coach" for Arthyve, made suggestions, and encouraged me to have it reviewed. I will work on the references and citing if that is what is lacking.

Barryraphael (talk) 15:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Barryraphael, Please do understand that reference or source materials do NOT need to be available online, in order to use them as a reference in the article. Journals, magazines, newspapers and many other materials can be used also, if proper citations are used. Hope that helps. Lacypaperclip (talk) 20:53, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Laceypaperclip! Barryraphael (talk) 22:34, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Laceypaperclip, I cited approximately 21 additional references this morning to the Dorothy Tanner article. When your time permits, kindly visit the article. Thank you! Barryraphael (talk) 13:07, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

 Done Good work Barryraphael! Lacypaperclip (talk) 15:31, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Lacypaperclip. As I write, my eyes are teary. Barryraphael (talk) 16:08, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Jamesharrison2014 ANI Round 2

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding I’ve created an ANI for JamesHarrison2014/Michael Moates. Billhpike (talk) 14:24, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

In reference to my black user space on Vasantrao Madhavrao Ghatge

Hi Lacypaperclip, I am a new user. I read your message on my talk page. I have not created an Autobiography. I may have projected so by mistake since I am very new to creating an article on Wikipedia.I have used the same user name as the personality about whom I have created the draft. Will changing it help my situation? Please help me to correct this. Vasantrao Madhavrao Ghatge (talk) 07:16, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, you will need to request a username change because we do not allow usernames to be the same as living or famous people. Look here for information on how to do so. [5] Let me know if you have any other questions. Lacypaperclip (talk) 07:47, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I have requested a new username, the approval is pending. I just wanted to know if the article is still in the pipeline to get submitted or is it deleted. Could you let me know the exact status of my article? I am afraid I feel confused and lost. Vasantrao Madhavrao Ghatge (talk) 10:42, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Do not worry. Your draft is not deleted at all. It is right here: [6] You can continue to work on it. It is currently in queue to be reviewed. I will try to have a look at it tomorrow and see how it has progressed. All is well. It is good you have applied for a different name. You are doing well. Cheers! Lacypaperclip (talk) 10:47, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you for your prompt response! Vasantrao Madhavrao Ghatge (talk) 11:11, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

White House press corp RFC.

There is an open RFC on talk:White House press corps Billhpike (talk) 16:33, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Hey, thankyou for the help, though you rejected it ... but i am expecting more of your help.. i'll remove wordpress link and Press Release but i think there are more reliable resources for Mr.Rico and he is one of the finest authors in USA, havn't you read him. I got so curious when i could not find it on Wiki.. than i realized WIkipedia is a multi collaborative website and we should collaborate and get people there who deserve. Katherinehurley (talk) 12:18, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

14:21:30, 26 December 2017 review of submission by Itisandy

• Itisandy (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:James Felton Keith (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, Thanks for your review. I'm wondering if I should just delete the life/work details and make this article a short paragraph. JFK's life's work has been chronicled by notable news sources (DetroitNews, FreePress, HuffPost, PrideSource, NetworkJournal, Ballotpoia, others) in more so than many other people who've had articles written about them, and he is documented as running for public office right now. I'd like to know if there are any suggestions for cleaning up this article.

Running for public office does not usually confer notability. I will take another look at the draft today to see if I can offer more suggestions to improve it. Thank you for contacting me. I will try to help as best I can. Lacypaperclip (talk) 19:48, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Inserted a link to new Wikipedia site for Alfred Edward Rodewald

I am sorry to trouble you and hope that I am asking a question in the right place. I find the instructions far from clear. I understand that my page as above was accepted on 18/12/2017 and there does appear to exist when logged into Wikipedia. However, using a search engine such as Google does not find it. Could you please clarify the status of this Wiki page?

I am currently working on a page for Robert Ernest Bryson and hope that, as my second contribution, I can process this more correctly and efficiently.

Alan Jones Alan.jones.ski (talk) 15:02, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Alan.jones.ski After the article is published at AFC, it has to also be reviewed at NPP. (New Page Patrol) Until the NPP is done the article is not indexed with google. There is a backlog for reviews at NPP currently. As soon as they review it, the article will appear in google. Looking forward to the new article you will be creating! Lacypaperclip (talk) 18:51, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

12:19:25, 1 January 2018 review of submission by SubjectIsDead

• SubjectIsDead (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Douwe Draaisma (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Lacypaperclip, first of all, I would like to thank you for taking the time to review my article. I've tried my best to improve the article with more independent sources. However, I'm not really sure if I've done everything correctly. Would you be so kind as to look at my article again and, if need be, inform me of what needs to be improved? Thank you once again for taking time out of your day to help a new editor get into the world of the English Wikipedia. SubjectIsDead (talk) 12:19, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

SubjectIsDead I will take a look at the draft a little later today. Lacypaperclip (talk) 13:25, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Do you want me to resubmit it for evaluation, or is there no need? SubjectIsDead (talk) 13:39, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

No need. Lacypaperclip (talk) 13:44, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

SubjectIsDead I looked over this draft again, and I am afraid I am just not seeing the notability. I am open to listen though. Please tell me what you thinks makes the subject notable? Thanks! Lacypaperclip (talk) 06:29, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Dear Lacypaperclip, I have taken another look at the page on general notability guidelines for biographies as well as the specific guidelines for academics and I feel like Draaisma meets the criteria stated there. First of all he was inducted into the Order of Orange-Nassau, which is roughly the highest decoration anyone can earn within the Netherlands, fulfilling the requirement "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times". Secondly, I have tried to show that Draaisma is mentioned in a number of independent Dutch newspapers, such as NRC and AD, both being nationally recognized independent newspapers, as well as Contact Zutphen-Warnsveld, a local Dutch newspaper (I can understand if this last one doesn't count as being notable, but the other two definitely are). Finally, I'd like to point out that Draaisma holds the Heymans Chair at the University of Groningen, which makes him eligible for a biography according to the notability page for academics ("5. The person holds or has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research (or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon)" (however, I am uncertain how to source this differently than through the website of the University of Groningen itself). I feel like all of these things combined should be enough to make Draaisma eligible for his own biography on Wikipedia. Once again, thank you for taking the time to read through all of this. SubjectIsDead (talk) 17:01, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Published and  Done. Lacypaperclip (talk) 03:47, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

15:20:25, 1 January 2018 review of submission by 2606:A000:112A:C05D:7C81:AE5B:12BD:E33C

• 2606:A000:112A:C05D:7C81:AE5B:12BD:E33C (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mina Sundwall (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello! I'm just stopping by wondering why this article was rejected. I'm a big fan of Netflix Originals in general, and the upcoming TV series is a major, multi-million dollar production which she so happens to be a prominent character on. Scrolling through the Wikipedia pages in association with the upcoming TV series, she remains the only one without a Wikipedia page, and the current one submitted by the writer is even more detailed than most of them! I beg you to reconsider your stance on this subject, and while I understand that cranking through so many of these backlogged drafts is priority here (most of them are pretty terrible, to say the least), I hope you can take a more detailed look into Sundwall and her situation because it does include the necessary sources required to establish her notability, and she does have a social prominence that highly recommends her addition to the largest encyclopedia on the planet.

Thank you for your hard work and dedication to this bright community of volunteers, -Jake

I will take another look at this draft on tomorrow. Thanks for writing me. Lacypaperclip (talk) 06:31, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

So sorry, I am not going to be able to accept this draft for publishing. It is really WP:TOOSOON. Perhaps when the subject does more in the future she may become notable. Simply having roles in several shows or films does not automatically confer notability. You would need to find references that contain significant coverage not just brief mentions. Lacypaperclip (talk) 03:53, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

5 January 2018 review of submission by Wingazing

Hello Lacypaperclip I am new here to wikipedia and very excited to learn as much as I can. I cut off the fat, or what could potentially be a peacock from what I learned and only stated the facts for this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lola_Langusta This draft is only stating facts and hoping it is closer to being correct. Again, I am newbie and if not even sure if this is the right place to reach out - if it's not I apologize. Looking forward, Wingazing (talk) 22:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC) 5 January 2018

Welcome to wikipedia Wingazing! It is fine to contact me right here. I will check out the draft again later on today. Thanks for updating it to be neutral. If you have any questions you are welcome to ask here anytime. Lacypaperclip (talk) 23:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your response Lacypaperclip. I a had no idea about grading scales and will study how to improve! This is an exciting world and excited to get learn as much as I can. This response is going to a test in learning for myself. Also, thank you so much for sharing Teahouse with me and Happy New Year! Wingazing (talk) 00:18, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Kaya Jones - Legal Action

We have extensive proof, birth records, etc, Kaya is not claimed by any federally recognized tribe or any tribe for that matter and are willing to bring legal action as we are already in the process of serving Kaya. I am new at this and I am thankful for your willingness to help us publish these facts to Kaya Jones Page.

http://www.nv1.org Monday, January 8, 2018 — Native American ambassador…Kaya Jones? The appointment of Kaya Jones as the Native American representative on a diversity panel ignited a firestorm of pushback, especially on social media. In her role she will ostensibly offer advice on reaching Native voters for the National Diversity Coalition for Trump, a private organization working on behalf of the president. Jones claims to have Apache heritage, but no Apache tribe claims her and her lineage is otherwise unconfirmed.

http://www.nativeamericacalling.com/monday-january-8-2018-native-american-ambassadorkaya-jones/ The appointment of Kaya Jones as the Native American representative on a diversity panel ignited a firestorm of pushback, especially on social media. In her role she will ostensibly offer advice on reaching Native voters for the National Diversity Coalition for Trump, a private organization working on behalf of the president. Jones claims to have Apache heritage, but no Apache tribe claims her and her lineage is otherwise unconfirmed.

https://www.acast.com/nativeopinion/what-will-you-do-when-your-rights-are-gone Kaya Jones, who has a problematic relationship with the truth, claimed to be Apache and newly appointed Native Ambassador. The first problem, like Senator Elizabeth Warren, she is not Native. The second problem, for her first act as an "ambassador to Indian Country — Preceding unsigned comment added by ApacheNation (talk • contribs) 08:03, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Read. Lacypaperclip (talk) 21:55, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Róbert Kreutz

Many thanks for your work on the new Róbert Kreutz article. David e cooper (talk) 19:52, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome. I was happy to help. Lacypaperclip (talk) 20:26, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Anusha Rai

Hi,

I had my article declined on 30 December, so I made significant changes and resubmitted for review.

I know the waiting list is long and that the resubmitted draft may be reviewed by someone else, but I was wondering how long it might take. This current draft was submitted 10 days ago. Any pointers? Below is my article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Anusha_Rai

Thanks and kind regards... Kirapz

I do try to follow up on drafts I have reviewed. I will try to have another look at it tomorrow. Lacypaperclip (talk) 06:58, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

HI,

Did you get any chance to review my article.

Regards, J.Lohith — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiranpz (talk • contribs) 07:12, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

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Hello. You appear to have made some reverts lately on James D. Zirin. Please be aware that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reverts on a single page within a 24 hour period. Rather than reverting edits, please consider using the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. The dispute resolution processes may also help. Excessive reverting may result in a loss of editing privileges. Please note that there is a consensus that BLP violation removal is always 3RR exempt. Continuing to insert non-BLP compliant sources is not advised. Please open a discussion on the Talk page first. Chetsford (talk) 07:27, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

You are editing disruptively. You seem to have been upset when I had accepted an draft you previously declined. You immediately nominated the article for deletion. Fair enough. Since then you have proceeded to gut the article and strip most bits of information out of the article while hiding behind some blp rule. Your threat will do no good here. Myself and another editor have both made improvements and added numerous reliable sourcing. Then you go back through and remove the information and sourcing again and again. I have not made any reverts today. You are the one who keeps removing cited info over and over for no proper reason. After nomming an article it is frowned upon to GUT the article, and then you edit war to keep improvement out the article. The readers deserve to see the article with its references and judge for themselves for the AFD. You are disrupting the improvement of the article. Stop your edit warring! Lacypaperclip (talk) 07:43, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Both of you need to knock it off. There is nothing saying that an article cannot be edited while there is an ongoing AFD. Unless I'm missing something, you're both arguing over whether the word "paid obituary" should be included. This is not a hill worth dying on.

Other than that, you're both (in general) making improvements to the page, so discuss the paid obit thing on the talk and leave the 3RR threats alone. Primefac (talk) 17:51, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you and noted, Primefac. I've hatted the templates[edit] bombing of on[edit] my own Talk page so that we can wrap this up and move on. Chetsford (talk) 06:35, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

There was no template bombing. You put one warning on my talk page, and I put two on yours for two different issues. Please do not come here and make an unfounded accusation of some fictitious template bombing. There was no need to make a snarky comment like that. Stop it! I am not interested. Thank you. Lacypaperclip (talk) 06:45, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I apologize, I didn't mean to offend you. I was under the impression that was just the term used to refer to back-to-back templates left with no intervening edits on the article in question, and I did not mean to invoke it as an insult. However, I have stricken that phrase to ensure there is no perception of a slight against you. Again, my apologies for any offense I may have caused. Chetsford (talk) 07:03, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Read. Lacypaperclip (talk) 08:54, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

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10:40:54, 11 January 2018 review of submission by Personman

• Personman (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Michael Brough (game designer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Lacypaperclip,

The current revision addressed some NPOV concerns raised by SeraphWiki. As you can see from that discussion, SeraphWiki felt that the in-depth Wired and Guardian articles were sufficient on the notability front. Can you explain in more detail why you disagree with this? It's certainly possible to find more articles about Brough, but I'm not sure that doing so would increase the encyclopedic value of the article.

You also write that it reads like an advertisement. This concern was raised by SeraphWiki as well, and a number of specific terms that felt promotional to them were removed. Can you be more specific about which aspects of the article you consider promotional? Thanks! –Personman (talk) 10:40, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I see where SeraphWiki said, I agree with you that it might pass notability, the Wired and Guardian article are in-depth, but the draft still needs some work before it can be moved to mainspace. Key word there is might. I believe there is a need for more references in order to show notability. The first sentence talking about the multiple nominations and honorable mention, at the time I reviewed the draft was unsourced. That claim definitely needs a source in my view. Also, what awards has the subject actually won? While I respect the amount of work and talent that goes into creating these games, that sentence with its multiple claims still needs sourcing to a reliable source or sources. Since you have asked about this so politely, I will be glad to have another look at the draft on tomorrow. Lacypaperclip (talk) 12:23, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

@Lacypaperclip: Thanks for the reply! I've added a third major source, a design analysis from Gamasutra (a major industry source) that supports the claims about Brough's distinctive style. Regarding your claim that the mention of multiple nominations is uncited in the first sentence, that was intentional – each award for which he was a finalist is cited individually in the body, so it seemed superfluous to list those references on that sentence as well. If there is some style guideline about not saving references for later, let me know and I can move them, though I fear it will look worse to just have a big row of six refs in the first graf, rather than attached to the appropriate years.

As for "actually winning awards", I think this is an easy perspective to have as an outsider, but as someone familiar with the IGF it sounds a bit funny. Being a finalist is a significant honor. Here's the page describing what you win – it's not that different from what the winner gets, aside from the money. That page lists 'exhibitor passes' which is kind of vague – what it actually means is that you get free booth space in the expo hall of the largest industry convention in the world. It is a Big Deal to be an IGF finalist.

Thanks for your time and attention, and please let me know if there's anything else you think needs work! –Personman (talk) 16:27, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

07:00:42, 12 January 2018 review of submission by Monkeyc128

• Monkeyc128 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Jazz Anderson (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The changes were made to the article as to not speak so much on who Jazz’s parents are. The artist has many verifiable articles published about her. Since she is a musician and tv personality, most of her write ups come from notable television networks and hip-hop sites/electronic magazines. I will make as many changes necessary because Jazz is a notable artist with a widespread and growing fan base. What would you recommend? Decreasing the amount of citations? Monkeyc128 (talk) 07:00, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

You did some good work trimming parts of it. Tell me what make Jazz notable? Please read over WP:NACTOR to see what requirements need to be met to show notability for an actress oo actor. Thanks. Lacypaperclip (talk) 07:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Swami Smaranananda

Hi there. I resubmitted the page Draft:Swami_Smaranananda for review. I included, on the talk page Draft_talk:Swami_Smaranananda, additional references from major independent news sources. I trust this will establish notability. Thanks, Devadaru (talk) 14:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Odd interlude dean koontz

How is an interview with author in question talking about book in question, not a verified source? Nixy1066 (talk) 02:44, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

To explain, I will quote some pertinent passages.

• the material in an interview comes directly from whomever is being interviewed, and those people can say whatever they like.
• Interviews are generally reliable for the fact that the interviewee said something, but not necessarily for the accuracy of what was said.
• No matter how highly respected a publication is, it does not present interviewee responses as having been checked for accuracy. In this sense, interviews should be treated like self-published material.
• anything the interviewee says about himself or herself or their own work is primary. If it's primary, our guidelines make clear that it does not contribute to notability.

These are from here: [7] Please let me know if you have any further questions. Feel free to come back. Lacypaperclip (talk) 02:55, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Swami Smaranananda

Hi there, Lacypaperclip,

Thanks for helping to add the references to Draft:Swami_Smaranananda. I was sure that would be enough, but it has been rejected again; I think the reviewer didn't even see the new references, since the comment was:

Comment: There is only one source, and that's to his own writings. I'm afraid, as the previous reviewer indicated, this doesn't establish Notability.

I put a note on the talk page User_talk:KJP1#Swami_Smaranananda pointing out the new references; hope that will be enough to release the article.

I admit it's still a stub, but of a noteworthy subject.

Thanks again for your help, Devadaru (talk) 05:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

ps: whoops, sorry I forgot I already started a section on your talk page for this subject. Didn't mean to add another one. Devadaru (talk) 05:11, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

No worries Devadaru I am always happy for pleasant people to open new sections here. Please stop by anytime! You are welcome for me adding your references to the article. I am always happy to help and collaborate with my colleagues here. I am not sure who rejected the draft. I will, however, add the draft back on my to do list for tomorrow. I will check it out, and see if there is anything I can do to help improve the draft further. Have a lovely afternoon. Lacypaperclip (talk) 06:01, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Alas, Lacypaperclip, User:KJP1 declined the page again! I get the feeling that this is a cultural misunderstanding. No-one from India would ever suppose the the president of the Ramakrishna Mission was not a notable subject. Anyhow, I guess I'll wait a while, and resubmit later, hoping to get a more sympathetic reviewer next time (and maybe finding some more material).

Thanks again for your help. Devadaru (talk) 02:08, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

If you would like me to take one last look, re-submit the draft, and I will review it once again. I will be working the next 4 or 5 hours. Thanks! Lacypaperclip (talk)

ps. I love to learn and study about all different religions. No cultural misunderstanding here. Lacypaperclip (talk) 04:13, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again, Lacypaperclip. I resubmitted the article, though by now you are probably no longer online. I added more information and references, as well as an image. Hope you will find a moment to have a look.

I too love finding inspiration in many different religions. :-)

Devadaru (talk) 07:42, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

A thousand thanks, Lacypaperclip, and a bow to you! I appreciate your help and encouragement. Having the page turned down several times has forced us (I mean you and me) to improve it; so, though it was frustrating, it had a good result. I know it is still a beginner page, but I hope and think it's a good start. Now I need a break! All best wishes, Devadaru (talk) 08:17, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Zelgizbog

Hi Lacypaperclip,

Thanks for your review. Please find the rewritten page for SPARX Group. Please let me know if all looks in order.

Best, Zelgizbog 7:02 Jan 13th Zelgizbog (talk) 12:03, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your help

Thank you for your help with my first page Charles Irving Elliott....Yay!!! KlausVonVilver (talk) 15:32, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome! Fabulous article. Lacypaperclip (talk) 15:45, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for creating Supremely Partisan, Lacypaperclip!

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Corey Postiglione page

Hi and thanks for your input and additions. Can you provide further guidance for improving the article to better meet Wikipedia's criteria? Using the "Start-Class" descriptions, in this case, is it a matter of 1) content; 2) prose; 3) sources; 4) MOS issues; or 5) BLP isues? Thanks again. Mianvar1 (talk) 20:00, 14 January 2018 (UTC)Mianvar1

Mianvar1 Are his works held in the permanent collections anywhere? Do you have any other images, perhaps of a few of his more notable pieces? More sources are always good, as long as they are from reliable sources. See: WP:RS. Some quotes (with citations) from any critical reviews about some of his works. Just a few ideas off the top of my head, I will look at the article and let you know of any other ideas I can think of doing. Happy Sunday! Lacypaperclip (talk) 20:52, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks—that is helpful. I had planned to pursue a few of those ideas (collections, additional images) and could definitely pull quotes in some cases rather than paraphrase. Mianvar1 —Preceding undated comment added 22:08, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello I am Planet seed. Thank you very much for taking your time to review and help my article! If there are anymore to improve, I will appreciate your advice! Draft: Ryonosuke Hirama Planet seed (talk) 07:26, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

08:05:12, 15 January 2018 review of submission by Adams1peace

• Adams1peace (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:David Adams (Peace Activist) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for your help. I have now added sections on invited lectures and commissions with 20 independent references. I also added reference in Scientific American about my role in the Seville Statement and reference to an article about the Culture of Peace Declaration co-authored with Federico Mayor, who was my Director-General and who is certainly a notable person with a Wikipedia page. By my count there are now 57 references. I have also refined the link to the IYCP Taskforce o the Wikipedia page on the International Year for the Culture of Peace which indicates that I was the chair of the taskforce. As far as I know, this was placed in Wikipedia from the beginning by author James Page. And if you need independent confirmation of my role, it is contained in the above article published with Federico Mayor.

Hopefully, these independent references now show sufficient notability. These are published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject.

Adams1peace (talk) 08:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Adams1peace (talk) 08:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Adams1peace, Please do not worry. Your draft has tons of references, but they are currently not all formatted correctly as inline citations. For more information on how to format in-line citations please read WP:REFB. There are really a lot of references, so I am going to start formatting some of them in order to give you a helping hand on the draft. Please let me know if you need anymore questions,need more help, or any assistance. Lacypaperclip (talk) 10:09, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

You nominated my page as an ATTACK page? are you serious?

What an utter joke.

You call yourself an administrator and yet do not properly review my page? perhaps you should spend more time reading my references and the official court documents before getting your feelings hurt.

Cencoredme (talk) 11:43, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

You are mistaken, I do not call myself an administrator. Again, you need to watch your tone. (second warning) First warning is at your talk page. Lacypaperclip (talk) 11:51, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Then perhaps you should read peoples comments who are indeed editors before drawing false conclusions about BLP violations that do not exist.Cencoredme (talk) 12:08, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Cencoredme I drew no false conclusions. I am warning you for the third time now, Watch your tone! You have already made more than one personal attack toward me. The next time you act inappropriately and personally attack me will be the last time. Lacypaperclip (talk) 12:24, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

I am not attacking you, I am stating the fact that you falsely reported my article as an attack page, which it clearly is not.Cencoredme (talk) 12:36, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

I did not falsely report anything. Times up for you. Lacypaperclip (talk) 12:42, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Then why nominate it for speedy deletion when it is not an attack page? Care to explain on what criteria you feel this is an attack page?Cencoredme (talk) 12:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

12:29:00, 15 January 2018 review of submission by Zelgizbog

• Zelgizbog (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:SPARX Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Lacypaperclip,

Thank you for the edits. Please let me know if you see any other necessary changes on the page.

Best, Zelgizbog

Zelgizbog (talk) 12:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018

Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018 Metadata on the March From the days of hard-copy liner notes on music albums, metadata have stood outside a piece or file, while adding to understanding of where it comes from, and some of what needs to be appreciated about its content. In the GLAM sector, the accumulation of accurate metadata for objects is key to the mission of an institution, and its presentation in cataloguing. Today Wikipedia turns 17, with worlds still to conquer. Zooming out from the individual GLAM object to the ontology in which it is set, one such world becomes apparent: GLAMs use custom ontologies, and those introduce massive incompatibilities. From a recent article by sadads, we quote the observation that "vocabularies needed for many collections, topics and intellectual spaces defy the expectations of the larger professional communities." A job for the encyclopedist, certainly. But the data-minded Wikimedian has the advantages of Wikidata, starting with its multilingual data, and facility with aliases. The controlled vocabulary — sometimes referred to as a "thesaurus" as term of art — simplifies search: if a "spade" must be called that, rather than "shovel", it is easier to find all spade references. That control comes at a cost. SVG pedestrian crosses road Zebra crossing/crosswalk, Singapore Case studies in that article show what can lie ahead. The schema crosswalk, in jargon, is a potential answer to the GLAM Babel of proliferating and expanding vocabularies. Even if you have no interest in Wikidata as such, simply vocabularies V and W, if both V and W are matched to Wikidata, then a "crosswalk" arises from term v in V to w in W, whenever v and w both match to the same item d in Wikidata. For metadata mobility, match to Wikidata. It's apparently that simple: infrastructure requirements have turned out, so far, to be challenges that can be met. Links 1lib1ref campaign starts today, see m:The Wikipedia Library/1Lib1Ref: also #1lib1ref introductory video by Felix Nartey Funders should mandate open citations, article 9 January 2018 in Nature by David Shotton From snowflake to avalanche: Possibilities of using free citation data in libraries, translation from the German original of Annette Klein, Mannheim University Library outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/December 2017/Contents/WMF GLAM report Why Mickey Mouse’s 1998 copyright extension probably won't happen again: Copyrights from the 1920s will start expiring next year if Congress doesn't act, Timothy B. Lee, 8 January 2018, Arstechnica To subscribe to Facto Post go to Wikipedia:Facto Post mailing list. For the ways to unsubscribe, see below. Editor Charles Matthews, for ContentMine. Please leave feedback for him. Back numbers are here. Reminder: WikiFactMine pages on Wikidata are at WD:WFM. If you wish to receive no further issues of Facto Post, please remove your name from our mailing list. Alternatively, to opt out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery to your user talk page. Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery

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Michael Brough article

Thanks so much for jumping in and helping with the creation of this page! —Personman (talk) 01:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome! Lacypaperclip (talk) 02:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

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Reverted edits

I'd like to know your reasoning for reverting my edits to Murex, New York Power Authority, and Umarex, as well as the speedy deletion notices for three pages I created. Of course, I understand the tags, but these articles were created for redlinks, and have notability. I will be contesting their deletions, but I'd just like more of an explanation regarding them and the reverted edits. I'm currently working on reducing the amount of articles in a category of pages using infoboxes with unsupported parameters. The infobox is no different between my edit and the previous one, except for the fact that the page now appears in that category because I had fixed a problem in the infobox. Thanks. Potatornado (talk) 14:35, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

I think we can spend our time much more productively by discussing this edit of yours right here. [8] Can you tell me what was happening there?

Lacypaperclip (talk) 14:45, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Converting references? I'm sorry, I don't understand why this is bad. I understand your comment about how I shouldn't delete references other people can convert. Are pdfs convertible? If so, I'd like to know how to convert them. Potatornado (talk) 15:28, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

What is really quite odd is I do not see any other edits by you there. Please explain to me how did you delete those as you term them un convertible edits? This is quite interesting. and yes pdf's can be converted. I will have to show you some time. Now, do please go on! Lacypaperclip (talk) 15:36, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't understand what you are implying. I was under the assumption that pdfs were un convertible, and therefore couldn't cite them. I'd like to understand why you have reverted my other edits. I would love to talk about those! Potatornado (talk) 16:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Ok, that was fun, but seriously, can we please resolve these problems sophisticatedly? Potatornado (talk) 19:33, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

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Natural Information Society

Hi Lacypaperclip, Thanks for all our input! "Uncut" is a UK magazine that comes out in print, checkout this link :http://www.uncut.co.uk/publication/uncut/january-2018 Thanks! (Artrainschool (talk) 09:06, 17 January 2018 (UTC))

The cited webpage is a BLOG. Look at the top right, it clearly says BLOG in red letters. It cannot be used in a BLP. Blogs cannot be used as a reference in any article, BLP or otherwise since they are considered UNRELIABLE.

Thanks for the note! Lacypaperclip (talk) 17:16, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Um... I'm not seeing it marked as a blog anywhere. Primefac (talk) 17:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

The id of blog is held in the the top level header on the actual page where the blog post on the page they want to use in the article. Big RED letters BLOG. Just click on the link in history. Thanks for the note. Lacypaperclip (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh, right, my mistake. I misread and thought that the link (provided above) was the reference, but it's a reference to a section within the magazine itself, which I apparently don't have. Primefac (talk) 19:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

No worries!!! Lacypaperclip (talk) 20:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Primefac - could you clarify if that isn't a WP:NEWSBLOG? John Mulvey was the editor [9] of Uncut at the time he wrote the article. Also, I'm not 100% sure this article is a BLP, nor is the source used to support biographical data. If this doesn't fall under BLP we obviously need to be a little sensitive about the volume of reverts going on. Could you weigh-in? Chetsford (talk) 21:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

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Archive view of a retaliatory edit warring report done by user Chetsford

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you.

This fake edit warring report filed by Chetsford, was filed in retaliatory fashion AFTER he found out that an SPI report had been filed regarding him. Chetsford somehow found out the report had been filed with a no ping filter at SPI. I suspect that since he likely did not find the report via a ping, the other possible way he found out is he has been WP:WIKISTALKING and WP:WIKIHOUNDING me by obsessively punching refresh on my special contributions page, since the day I published the article James D. Zirin via my role as an AFC reviewer. The Zirin article was a draft at AFC, which he had previously declined to published. At that time he began a campaign of harassment towards me, one item of which caused him to retaliate by filing a vague edit warring report against me. By the way, I only made 2 reverts. He mentions in the report that, also said another editor editing the same article may also be guilty of edit warring, but he had not really looked over that editor's history or something like that. Very vague indeed. O, btw, that other editor was one of the possible multiple accounts he possibly may be controlling and using in an abusive manner. But I digress. Pinging editors that have been working to squash these multiple accounts and the harassment, WP:WIKISTALKING, and WP:WIKIHOUNDING that I have been enduring. NeilN, Primefac, TonyBallioni Lacypaperclip (talk) 02:30, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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