Jump to content

User talk:Northamerica1000: Difference between revisions

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Browse history interactively
← Previous editNext edit →
Content deleted Content added
VisualWikitext
m Archiving 1 discussion(s) to User talk:Northamerica1000/Archive 64) (bot
Asking for help re: proposed deletions
Line 235: Line 235:
|}<!-- Substituted from Template:TAFI weekly selections notice -->
|}<!-- Substituted from Template:TAFI weekly selections notice -->
<!-- Message sent by User:MusikBot@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement/Members/Notifications&oldid=742483889 -->
<!-- Message sent by User:MusikBot@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Today%27s_articles_for_improvement/Members/Notifications&oldid=742483889 -->

===Thanks for your help!===
Hi [[User:Northamerica1000|Northamerica1000]]. Thanks so much for alerting me (via my talk page) about the proposed deletions for [[Brit + Co]] and [[Brit Morin]], and for weighing in on the proposed deletion for [[Invoca]]. The same editor who wants to delete those articles has also placed PROD tags on [[DogVacay]], [[Aaron Hirschhorn]], and [[WebPT]], which I either contributed to or created. If you have a moment I would appreciate your suggestions on those articles, re: should they be deleted? I feel like they could be improved but shouldn't be deleted without at least a discussion/community consensus. Thank you again for your help. [[User:JNorman704|JNorman704]] ([[User talk:JNorman704|talk]]) 16:26, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Revision as of 16:26, 10 October 2016

Template:Semi-wikibreak (simple)

This user prefers to communicate
on-wiki, rather than by email.

Feedback requested

Lists of companies by country discussion

I was looking at revamping the format of the "Companies of (country)" series of articles and I'm aware you've tackled this problem before. Using the general layout you used for articles like List of companies of Niger, I was thinking about using a table layout to make a sortable list that would include sector, HQ and founding date. I've made a draft for what Mali would look like at User:Kuru/sandbox.

Could you briefly take a look and share your thoughts? This will obviously be insanely time consuming for larger countries, so I'd like to get some input first. Kuru (talk) 03:01, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Kuru: Nice layout at User:Kuru/sandbox, and this looks fine to me. The sortable tables are a nice improvement in style. Yes, table conversions do take some time. I have a wiki-friend, Anna Frodesiak, who has helped me out with table conversions before, because she has a semi-automated way of merging the content into tables without having to copy/paste all of the data manually, which can be very time consuming. North America1000 05:52, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I'd be happy to help. Please paste anything you want into my sandboxes. These are free: User:Anna Frodesiak/Bronze sandbox, User:Anna Frodesiak/Silver sandbox, and User:Anna Frodesiak/Pink sandbox. Just give me instructions and I'll ping you when it's ready. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:23, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! There's around 175 of these lists to convert. I'll do all of the small ones by hand, but I will take you up on your help when I get to the large ones (maybe 10 or so); this will also let me sort out the transform logic before approaching you. Will be a while - this is more of a spare time thing. Kuru (talk) 14:48, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kuru: It might be worth it to put all 175 into a huge file. A field could be added to differentiate them. Then, I could run some macros on it to do the whole thing in one go. Then, I could run more macros to split them up again. Just a thought. In fact, I might be able to use a program to automatically grab the 175 out of the articles, but I'm not sure about that yet. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:53, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Anna Frodesiak and Kuru: Thanks for replying Anna. I forgot to add in my comment above, "if she has time, she may be able to help out". In other words, I didn't want to come across as assumptive that you would chip in, but I inadvertently did anyway! It's nonetheless refreshing that you are willing to do so! So difficult to find people to collaborate with sometimes. For our reference, here's the category page for lists of companies located in ___: Category:Lists of companies by country. North America1000 16:02, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, I'm always happy to help. :) I'll take a look at the lists. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:53, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's a little messy; these articles were mostly spam magnets years ago. After a series of AFD kept them all, I've tried to clean them up as best possible and watch them. There are 174 I've tracked. Of that:
  • 136 are normalized (no spam, sorted by ICB cats, common format) are should be scriptable.
  • 7 are controlled, but in a complex table format, usually with detailed information where I didn't want to simply discard the original author's hard work.
  • 7 are not normalized, but de-spamed and sorted by some other sector system (usually just made up).
  • 9 are giant alphabetical lists that should convert easily, but will take a long time to fill in the extra fields. Obviously, List of companies of the United States is a beast.
  • 13 are new ones that I did not know existed (they were not in the category until recently). I think all of these were created by Northamerica1000 a while back and are in good shape - they just differ slightly in format.
  • 1 article is completely messed up, and I've been unable to get local consensus to change it (List of companies of Iran). I've been meaning to revisit it, but was going to wait until everything else was done before wasting more time there.
These have kind of been my "thing to play with when I've run out of important things and still have a little free time" for a few years. There's no rush; maybe I can get the 13 converted and in the can so I can get a feel for the new format - they should be easiest to convert since they all have the intro created and images picked by Mr. 1000. I'm most concerned about the 7 big ones. Kuru (talk) 22:37, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kuru. Sorry for the late reply. Okay, I've had a look. I'll get back to you shortly, if that's okay. Many thanks for your patience. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:32, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kuru. I'm all set. I'm looking at this. Is it what you want them to look like? So, please feel free to give me one to do and any instructions. From there, we can maybe figure out some automation. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:39, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's a good post-revision sample. List of companies of Tanzania is a good pre-revision example/test case. The task is to convert to the new wikitable format, with the company name (as a wikilink) moving into the "Name" field. The section title would move into the "Industry" field for each entry under that section. Any commentary about the business (usually one or two words following the comma) would move to the notes column. Kuru (talk) 13:26, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks all for responding here, and feel free to continue to do so. I'll try to chip in here and there in the effort to improve these list articles. North America1000 14:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kuru. Okay, I'll get some experience at User:Anna Frodesiak/Silver sandbox. You can keep an eye on things there. NorthAmerica1000, thank you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:29, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bumping thread for 60 days. North America1000 11:32, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of companies by country article updates

Below is a summary of article updates that have occurred as of this post. To keep track of matters, you can add to this list when articles are updated. North America1000 11:31, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

To display all subcategories click on the "►":
Lists of companies by country (185 C, 172 P)
  • Updates performed by Kuru

DYK for Peppersoup

On 26 September 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Peppersoup, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that peppersoup is considered a delicacy in Western Africa, where some believe it has medicinal qualities? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Peppersoup. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Peppersoup), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I was reading the article and was wondering if it would qualify as a comfort food? I'm basing that question off the "feel good" comment in-article. If so, a link to that might be appropriate. Even better, it would be nice to have even a single African example listed at the other article. If not, then never mind my rambling. :) Matt Deres (talk) 20:04, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Matt Deres: I'd be okay with including this in the article, but only if a reliable source can be found that verifies peppersoup as a comfort food. Otherwise, such mention could be original research. North America1000 21:39, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

U. Diane Buckingham

Having participated in it, I'm aware of the recent AfD. There are extenuating circumstances casting appreciable doubt on notability (coupled with premature AfD close) that have been voiced by myself, as well as 2 other eds (one of whom was on the "keep" side of that debate) to the closing admin, who never responded. There is a short summary of this issue on the talk page. If you were not aware of this and are only removing the notability tag procedurally, would you please consider restoring it? The alternative would be to re-open or start a fresh AfD, and, because the main source now appears to lack legitimacy, it would likely end in delete. The notability tag is there to allow some time for other sources to be found. Thanks, Agricola44 (talk) 16:45, 26 September 2016 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Agricola44: Thanks for providing the context. In summary, you opined to delete at the AfD discussion, and on the article talk page you stated your concerns about the source in question, and on the talk page SlimVirgin has changed their mind regarding their keep !vote at the AfD. On Michig's talk page, Lemongirl942 who !voted to delete provided input there. I hesitate to restore the notability template because this goes against the grain of all of the keep !voters at the discussion, essentially downplaying their opinions regarding the subject's notability. I recommend notifying all participants at the AfD discussion about the discussion occurring on the talk page about the source in question. In this manner, a more thorough consensus regarding the source may be achievable. North America1000 22:53, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • To me, the burden really seems to be the on the other side. AfD was closed only 15 minutes after the main source on which notability was based was basically found to be the result of "fanpage" public input. It seems clear that that one is disqualified, now leaving only a single, questionable source in which Buckingham's name appears in a list of "top doctors" compiled by a journalist with no medical training...seems to be a textbook argument for notability tag, especially since the very status of those "keeps" is now doubtful. Indeed, I see such a tag as an advertisement for eds to find more sources. In other words, the notability tag is entirely procedural in this case. I would propose that it be restored on this basis, though I would certainly be glad to notify the participating editors. What say you? Agricola44 (talk) 04:19, 28 September 2016 (UTC).[reply]
      • @Agricola44: You know what, upon further consideration, as a procedural matter, the tag should be all right after all. Yes, the tag was added after the discussion was closed, and is based upon the the questionable nature of the source, which did not receive adequate input in the discussion. I have reverted my own edit, restoring the notability template. Yes, I recommend contacting users who participated in the discussion, in hopes to obtain their input at the talk page discussion. North America1000 05:06, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm...I was the closing admin and I did respond - here. And the AfD ran for over 7 days. My recommendation would be as NA1k has suggested to try to reach consensus on that source with the other editors involved, and if there is agreement that it isn't acceptable (and if no other sources come to light) start a new AfD. --Michig (talk) 16:49, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, but I think the point is that the AfD was closed 15 minutes after the main source was called into serious doubt. The objection of several editors was that it would have been better, and indeed quite appropriate to extend the discussion. However, given the current state of affairs, would it not be better to give some time to find more sources (with the notability tag)? Agricola44 (talk) 15:32, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

On 29 September 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hot link (sausage), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in Texas, the hot link sausage is usually prepared using beef, while in Chicago, pork is typically used? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hot link (sausage). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hot link (sausage)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Food and drink Newsletter: October 2016

The WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter
Volume III, no. 8, October 2016

Note: To opt out from receiving future newsletters, please click here for instructions.                                      

Project News

  • Good article Nominations, Project Updates
— View by clicking [show] —

information Note: Our members page design has been tweaked so that members can easily see newsletter-receiving members. We also updated the format of adding your name (i.e. please use {{Mailing list member}} instead on {{user}}. See the page for yourself for more information!

The following articles were promoted to GA status!


ReaLemon
Carrot

One new GA nomination: The Restaurant Marco Pierre White (talk | history | start review) by Miyagawa.

Some do's to do..

  • Please see the project's Tasks and To do sections for project and article tasks, and feel free to update the lists with new entries.
  • Please add all food/drink-related pictures on Wikimedia Commons to the project's categories.

Help us out by...

For recent events regarding project-related articles, see Article alerts.

Article alerts

— View by clicking [show] —
Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Article alerts
  • Feel free to welcome the new members who have recently joined the project.
— View by clicking [show] —
2 new members!
VarunFEB2003
JoshMuirWikipedia
Please consider joining the welcome squad to invite more members!
The project currently has 114 active members.
— View by clicking [show] —
Past newsletters

Food and drink articles by quality and importance

— View by clicking [show] —
Article statistics
Food and Drink WikiProject
article assessment
Food and drink articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 15 31 53
FL 2 2 4
FM 140 140
GA 18 29 75 271 5 398
B 56 232 340 701 81 1,410
C 77 403 992 3,538 519 5,529
Start 22 328 1,673 11,961 3 3,892 17,879
Stub 17 549 9,032 4,968 14,566
List 12 71 115 533 23 273 1,027
Category 8,874 8,874
Disambig 218 218
File 3,022 3,022
Portal 811 811
Project 440 440
Redirect 10 72 633 2,861 3,576
Template 1,041 1,041
NA 8 8
Other 1 197 198
Assessed 185 1,099 3,831 26,703 17,638 9,738 59,194
Unassessed 18 1,978 1,996
Total 185 1,099 3,831 26,721 17,638 11,716 61,190
WikiWork factors (?) ω = 203,927 Ω = 5.12

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:47, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Ellen Zitek

Northamerica1000, will you be returning to this nomination now that the issues you raised have been dealt with (according to the reply on the template), or should a new reviewer be found? Please let me know here, if you aren't planning to reply there. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:55, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2016)

Hello, Northamerica1000.

The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Math rock

Please be bold and help to improve this article!

Previous selections: List of German painters • Brain damage

Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations

Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:07, 3 October 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

A kitten for you!

This seemingly innocent kitten is a budding churnalist, watch out!

Safehaven86 (talk) 23:21, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha. Well thanks for bringing this essay to my attention. Safehaven86 (talk) 16:02, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Safehaven86: You're welcome. Thanks again for the cutest kitten ever, and have fun! North America1000 16:03, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A note about confirmation bias

A drawing of a man sitting on a stool at a writing desk
Confirmation bias has been described as an internal "yes man", echoing back a person's beliefs like Charles Dickens' character Uriah Heep.
See also: Sycophant, Prejudice, Attitude polarization, Belief perseverance, Anchoring and Conservatism
Confirmation bias bad; objective thinking good – North America1000 15:46, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for edits on Zeek Wikipedia article.

The article has come a long way thanks to you Ymd2004 (talk) 18:35, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reading is fun!

Reading Barnstar
For not only knowing how to read (yay!), but actually doing it. And seriously, for keeping good humor and integrity in the face of undeserved slams. Safehaven86 (talk) 02:20, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Safehaven86: This happy penguin likes reading too, and so should you!
-------------------------------------------------
Cheers, North America1000 07:01, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Cheese slaw

On 6 October 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cheese slaw, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that cheese slaw is sometimes used as a topping for hot dogs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cheese slaw. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cheese slaw), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder: taste testings

A reminder, WP:SFT is backlogged, and could use some help.  ;) -- 1Wiki8........................... (talk) 14:45, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2016)

A spelling bee at Jhenidah Cadet College in Bangladesh
Hello, Northamerica1000.

The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Spelling bee

Please be bold and help to improve this article!

Previous selections: Math rock • List of German painters

Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations

Posted by: MusikBot talk 04:03, 10 October 2016 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

Thanks for your help!

Hi Northamerica1000. Thanks so much for alerting me (via my talk page) about the proposed deletions for Brit + Co and Brit Morin, and for weighing in on the proposed deletion for Invoca. The same editor who wants to delete those articles has also placed PROD tags on DogVacay, Aaron Hirschhorn, and WebPT, which I either contributed to or created. If you have a moment I would appreciate your suggestions on those articles, re: should they be deleted? I feel like they could be improved but shouldn't be deleted without at least a discussion/community consensus. Thank you again for your help. JNorman704 (talk) 16:26, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Northamerica1000&oldid=743659939"