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:::Providing those sources in the article would have been a start; without them, it is a violation of [[WP:BLP]]. Please provide the appropriate source when you add the information. Doing otherwise will cause difficulties, as unsourced information on living persons is a violation of policy. Additionally, you have changed the nationality of an entire family line from "German" to "Austro-Italian" - again, without a source. Such edits will be challenged - and reverted - unless a definitive source is provided. '''[[User:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#306b1e">Scr<span style="background:#0404B4;border-radius:7px;color:#FFFFFF">★</span>pIron</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#6E6E6E">IV</span>]]</sup>''' 18:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC) |
:::Providing those sources in the article would have been a start; without them, it is a violation of [[WP:BLP]]. Please provide the appropriate source when you add the information. Doing otherwise will cause difficulties, as unsourced information on living persons is a violation of policy. Additionally, you have changed the nationality of an entire family line from "German" to "Austro-Italian" - again, without a source. Such edits will be challenged - and reverted - unless a definitive source is provided. '''[[User:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#306b1e">Scr<span style="background:#0404B4;border-radius:7px;color:#FFFFFF">★</span>pIron</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#6E6E6E">IV</span>]]</sup>''' 18:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC) |
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::::Sorry, but that article has just too many ridiculous formulations. The Fürstenberg (princely family) was from the Holy Roman Empire. Egon von Fürstenberg was Austro-([[Austria-Hungary]])-Italian. Please keep calm, don’t be so aggressive. I can not edit as fast as you do.--[[Special:Contributions/91.10.41.9|91.10.41.9]] ([[User talk:91.10.41.9|talk]]) 18:51, 7 July 2015 (UTC) |
Revision as of 18:51, 7 July 2015
Civil discourse is welcome.
Offering eyes
I noticed your request for eyes, regarding Fiat 130 HP. That's a nice looking article, good layout and at-a-glance information, precise short lead with a time. You may want to add a place there for those who don't know Fiat but might argue that they would not be interested in the article anyway. I could do without "true" in "a true champion".
I made minor changes with explanation in the edit summaries. Please replace all "bare urls" by a minimum of title and publisher (as now in the external link), adding date and author where available, and an accessdate if not a book. Happy racing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you so very much; I will try to include your suggestions. I do not yet know how to add an accessdate, but will learn. I had chosen the word "true" because Fiat had not yet had a real winning design before the introduction of the 130 HP - if you know a better way to express that, I am open to suggestions. Perhaps eliminating the word altogether will still convey the idea. I really do appreciate your looking it over! ScrapIronIV (talk) 20:07, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- "true": Keeping things simple is my personal thing, not a rule ;) - I copied projects from 12 HP which seems a decent model to follow, I also added the new one to the navbox at the bottom (which you can edit by clicking on the little "e" in the upper left corner). I will add today's date as an accessdate to one ref, feel free to copy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- Do you see what I see: if you fix all refs as you started and have one at the end of each paragraph, the article is eligible for the DYK (Did you know?) section of the Main page. I will nominate, you watch ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- I was unaware of that - there is still a lot about the workings of Wikipedia that I do not know; I have only recently begun to gain a little confidence and started to edit a bit more. I have certainly made my missteps along the way! I will try to get the rest of the refs fixed tomorrow; I am getting a DNS error on a couple at the moment. I have yard work to do tonight... funny how the real world interferes :-D Thank you again for all of your help! ScrapIronIV (talk) 20:41, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- Take it easy, you are doing fine. For DYK, you have a week after creation, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with Gerda. I have left you some comments on the talk page. Just thread your responses underneath each comment as you go. If you disagree with any of them, don't worry, I won't "bite" :) CassiantoTalk 21:37, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Fiat 130 HP
On 27 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fiat 130 HP, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 1907 Fiat 130 HP racer had wooden wheels? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fiat 130 HP. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:02, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Ben Carson
Hello. I wanted to talk about my recent edits. Regarding my changing him saying, "because he may run," to, "because of the chance that he would run," is that it's no longer correct to say he "may run." Saying he did something because he may run, as far as I can see, makes it sound as if he isn't running yet.
And regarding enlarging his quotation on evolution, could we at least enlarge it to, "Those of us who believe in God and derive our sense of right and wrong and ethics from God’s word really have no difficulty whatsoever defining where our ethics come from. People who believe in survival of the fittest might have more difficulty deriving where their ethics come from. A lot of evolutionists are very ethical people"? It better explains the distinction he makes. Thanks! —The Sackinator (talk) 00:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- @The Sackinator: Thank you for the message. Perhaps "because he was considering running" would fit better for both of us. And I see no issue with the quote you have suggested. It is concise, and reads well. Have a great day! Scr★pIronIV 12:32, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- All right! That sounds good! —The Sackinator (talk) 21:31, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Revert of Edward Rayne from list of fashion designers
Hi ScrapironIV, thank you for removing Edward Rayne from the list of fashion designers. He's now housed on a new page List of footwear designers and it was my error to put him on the fashion designer list. However, there is evidence he was more than a businessman and I have to stand up for him on design credentials! Apart from his extremely long apprenticeship and Jean Muir describing him as the best shoemaker of his generation, he was also considered eligible to chair IncSoc and the BFC. Many thanks again. Libby norman (talk) 19:08, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- I certainly meant no insult by removing him from there; I have since been reverted on that myself, with the clarification of his design work. I guess shoes would be a subset of fashion, so I have no intention of removing him again. Thank you for coming to my page with kind words - they are greatly appreciated! Scr★pIronIV 19:14, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- A pleasure and keep up the good work. Libby norman (talk) 19:36, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Re: Recently reverted GHW Bush edit.
As suggested in the notes to my recent (minor) change to the entry on U.S. 41st President Bush, my intent was to de-clutter the passage's phrasing. A careful read should reveal that Bill Clinton is referenced at the close of the paragraph preceding the phrasing in question -- in whole-named fashion -- less than two lines prior the repeat reference to the U.S. 42nd President. Removing the gentleman's given name is merely an attempt to redact redundancy and stave off (re-)statement of the obvious. But thanks for your effort, whatever its intent.
Cheers, {User talk: Rande M Sefowt}
- I do understand your point, and appreciate your perspective. With a different Clinton being more in the public eye at the present time, I believe the previous wording is more appropriate for now. Under different circumstances, I would have left it be. Scr★pIronIV 18:05, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Very good. Cheers, and thanks again. {User talk: Rande M Sefowt}
Copyfraud
Hello! When you revert changes on an article, can you at least check to make sure the citations are up to date and the reference matches the source webpage? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.111.225.29 (talk) 19:29, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- Absolutely. As for the article; it would be improved by the addition of the historical change to copyfraud, rather than simply deleting sourced content. Add the data and provide your source for the change. Scr★pIronIV 19:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
For your diverse, interesting and consistently good contributions thus far. Often, this kind of work goes unnoticed, until now! Cheers. CassiantoTalk 18:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC) |
Polite advice
It's not nice to taunt other editors who are unable to reply normally to Wikipedia business. Your comment on M.srihari's talk page was rude and incivil. Each editor is responsibile for their own edits (and conduct. I've already issued the same advice to M.srihari and expect you to adhere to the 5 Pillars of Wikipedia as well. Hasteur (talk) 16:56, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- I am sorry that you saw it that way. I wished to respond in a place where he could also see - that I believe this is a good close of the DRN, and that there was no dispute without the constant POV push. That is not a taunt, it was simple input written neutrally, supporting the decision to close. Scr★pIronIV 17:09, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Motion passed in AE arbitration case granting amnesty and rescinding previous temporary injunction
This message is sent at 12:53, 5 July 2015 (UTC) by Arbitration Clerk User:Penwhale via MassMessage on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. You are receiving this message because your name appears on this list and have not elected to opt-out of being notified of development in the arbitration case.
On 5 July, 2015, the following motion was passed and enacted:
- Paragraphs (2) and (3) of the Arbitration Committee's motion of 29 June 2015 about the injunction and reporting breaches of it are hereby rescinded.
- The Arbitration Committee hereby declares an amnesty covering:
- the original comment made by Eric Corbett on 25 June 2015 and any subsequent related comments made by him up until the enactment of this current motion; and
- the subsequent actions related to that comment taken by Black Kite, GorillaWarfare, Reaper Eternal, Kevin Gorman, GregJackP and RGloucester before this case was opened on 29 June 2015.
What are you saying to me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chumigu (talk • contribs) 01:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Fürstenberg
Please, dont fight I am working. What content could be regarded as defamatory!? --91.10.41.9 (talk) 17:45, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- I am certainly not figthing, merely stewarding these changes. One can not change the nationality or religion of a living person without providing specific sources for the changes. Scr★pIronIV 17:48, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well, you are. Don’t be so aggressive. I just finished her memoir, The Woman I Wanted to Be and I am working on that article...
- I provided a ref for "Sephardim" - Please read: "Her mother’s family, Sephardim originally from Salonika, spoke Ladino at home" → http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/186760/diane-von-furstenburg-tidbits
- And for "Ashkenazi" - Please read: Leon Halfin, is an Ashkenazi Jew from Kishinev → http://www.latimesmagazine.com/2009/09/diane-von-furstenburg.html --91.10.41.9 (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Providing those sources in the article would have been a start; without them, it is a violation of WP:BLP. Please provide the appropriate source when you add the information. Doing otherwise will cause difficulties, as unsourced information on living persons is a violation of policy. Additionally, you have changed the nationality of an entire family line from "German" to "Austro-Italian" - again, without a source. Such edits will be challenged - and reverted - unless a definitive source is provided. Scr★pIronIV 18:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that article has just too many ridiculous formulations. The Fürstenberg (princely family) was from the Holy Roman Empire. Egon von Fürstenberg was Austro-(Austria-Hungary)-Italian. Please keep calm, don’t be so aggressive. I can not edit as fast as you do.--91.10.41.9 (talk) 18:51, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Providing those sources in the article would have been a start; without them, it is a violation of WP:BLP. Please provide the appropriate source when you add the information. Doing otherwise will cause difficulties, as unsourced information on living persons is a violation of policy. Additionally, you have changed the nationality of an entire family line from "German" to "Austro-Italian" - again, without a source. Such edits will be challenged - and reverted - unless a definitive source is provided. Scr★pIronIV 18:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC)