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October 2013

Your recent editing history at European Cup and UEFA Champions League records and statistics shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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Need your help

Hey, since you're one of the top contributors on WP:FOOTY (from what I've seen), I've started a discussion regarding categories relating to the Fort Lauderdale Strikers that I'm trying to sort out. You can read the discussion right here. – Michael (talk) 04:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

European Cup and UEFA Champions League records and statistics

Your comments carry no weight: (1) The table you want to remove needs no source indications, as it was obtained by simple processing of easily verifiable raw data. (2) The fact that "CL winners traditionally [are not] grouped by city" is completely immaterial, for Wikipedia does not necessarily need to conform to tradition. The fact of the matter is that the "By City" table has been in this article for 3 1/2 years. Over this rather long period, the article was surely visited by many thousands Wikipedians, who obviously do not share your views about the table or else they would have removed it. You need to respect the work and opinions of others. So back off and move on. Angelo Somaschini (talk • contribs) 18:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Response to your comment in my talk page dated 21 October 2013, 22:24: Your argument has no merit and carries no weight with me. The clubs listed in the table are, in fact, correctly grouped by city not only according to encyclopaedic sources (see, for example, Wikipedia itself: "Manchester United Football Club is an English professional football club, based in Old Trafford, Greater Manchester"; "Chelsea Football Club /ˈtʃɛlsiː/ is an English football club based in Fulham, London"; "Club Atlético de Madrid, SAD (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈkluβ aðˈletiko ðe maˈðɾið]), commonly known as Atlético de Madrid, or Atlético, is a Spanish football club based in Madrid"; "Arsenal Football Club is an English Premier League football club based in Holloway, London" [emphasis added], and so forth - feel free to look them all up), but also as a matter of widespread popular culture and common sense (see, for example, countless references in daily newspapers across Europe to games such as "ManU vs. ManC" or "AC Milan vs. Inter Milan" or "Tottenham vs. Arsenal" or "Real Madrid vs. Atletico Madrid" as, respectively, "Manchester derby", "Milan derby", "London derby", "Madrid derby." Therefore, the "By City" table is clearly not "spurious" and it must stay where it has been for the past 3 1/2 years. Angelo Somaschini (talk • contribs) 9:37, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

2002 FIFA World Cup

Did you read WP:COMMONALITY? North Americans do not use the term stadia although they should be able to infer the meaning. It's not about your preference, but for a change for everyone to read and understand. Both stadiums' and stadia are used in British English and so it makes sense to use the former. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:36, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Sir Alex Ferguson Way

Hi mate, I think we should create the Sir Alex Ferguson Way as we have Matt Busby way article aswell. As I don't know much of the area could you perheps do so?
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 14:34, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

FC Levadia

Hello. Please explain your view on messing with the 'UEFA club competition results' table here before You change it back again. It's not using templates in a text. It's a table. The point of templates is to keep the table simple and short. (Klõps (talk) 21:52, 28 October 2013 (UTC))

Btw Your arguments on my talk page should belong here. (Klõps (talk) 22:17, 28 October 2013 (UTC))

Evandro Brandão

Hi there PJ, how's it going?

regarding this player, two questions (more one question and one "situation"): 1 - if, like you told me last year or so, his spell with Blackburn is duly documented, how come it does not even appear in the infobox (no year, no club, no nothing)? 2 - you were here at WP when i entered seven years ago, so you must know this, we are encouraged to write simple intros regarding nationality, so we should write "...is an English (or other nation) footballer who plays..." or, in the case of naturalized players like Pepe, write "...is a Portuguese footballer who..." (as he plays for that national team) or leave it just blank ("...is a footballer", period), that "...of Angolan descent..." in Brandão's article belongs in the start of storyline, ask anyone.

Obviously, still regarding item #2, don't worry i was just notifying you, did not alter anything in that regard in my last contribution (only updated his current team and corrected national team stuff in box), last time i tried to relocate the descent bit you immediately reverted me so i'm not going to edit war over that.

Keep it up, "see" you --AL (talk) 15:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong, i also have zero problems with the article's present introduction, was only trying to make it coherent with other players. --AL (talk) 17:13, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Old Trafford

I have left an explanation of my edits on the Old Trafford talk page. Please feel free to comment. Haldraper (talk) 09:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

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Welsh National Rugby Union Team

The Lions tries do have relevance as the link takes you to a page consisting of Shane Williams international tries. Also it brings more knowledge to who ever reads it and is a good way to broaden their knowledge please stop editing it back.

Eol28 (talk) 17:10, 31 October 2013 (UTC)Eol28

Welsh National Rugby Union Team

It does have relevance as I have already explained and please clam down your doing the editing abuse thing. Eol28 (talk) 17:20, 31 October 2013 (UTC)Eol28

Calm down well done he would be the top scorer whats your point if I changed it to 60 I would get your point but i Put (+2 Lions) this dose not affect what was already there it just expands to information on the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eol28 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Come on what damage can it do. relax a little.

Eol28 (talk) 17:35, 31 October 2013 (UTC)Eol28

what new comers go to that page its only used by the people who already know about rugby union at the least. I'm not going to spend all of my time trying to revert this as I unlike you have things to do try not to cry.

Eol28 (talk) 17:49, 31 October 2013 (UTC)Eol28

I really think you didn't get my point, I don't care what you think and I don't understand why you bother to keep changing it back plus i think i put a compromise in to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eol28 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

sorry for any offence I have caused you but I strongly believe it should include something to do with his 2 lions tries — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eol28 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

sorry have it your way your boring me now I know why i'm doing this i just don't know why you are — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eol28 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Maybe you should spend some time expanding player articles like Jordan Williams as I think you would be good at it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eol28 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

and I am being positive you said discuss it and I have — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eol28 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

I was not trying to get my own way, only to put in an alternative opinion and i tried to be nice but your just so awkward sometimes. I offer a suggestion and you complain at me. stop talking to me and do somthing positive. Eol28 (talk) 18:23, 31 October 2013 (UTC)Eol28

Thanks for doing the Jordan Williams (Ruby Union) page like I suggested. See just relax a bit and do something to expand more well known welsh rugby union players with small pages.

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Hi there. I have a too long backlog, so sometimes it takes some time for me to comment on stuff, this comment is about this edit from September. :) I thought there was a consensus to not include "Nation-born Nationality footballer" in the opening paragraph in footballer biographies per WP:OPENPARA. I wouldn't mind to mention that Pa Modou Kah was born in Gambia and later moved to Norway in the lead, but saying that "Pa Modou Kah (born 30 July 1980) is a Gambian-born Norwegian international footballer" is a bit too much IMO. Additionally, the info you added about him moving to Norway at the age of 8, is as far as I'm concerned unsourced - would you mind adding a citation for it? Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 10:20, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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Tottenham Hotspur

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Why have you removed my edit from Zeki Fryers. I have sourced the image as I work for the club and uploaded the image via Wiki Commons. All we are trying to do is update relevant player images to this season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billybob825 (talk • contribs) 13:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

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Ricardo López Felipe

Hi there PJ, AL "here",

First of all, i apologize for "screwing" the infobox of this player, force of habit I guess... Now, i'd like to have your permission (not that anyone needs anybody's permission to edit here, i just do it out of common courtesy) to reinstate my other edits, if it's possible.

1 - no need to say number of int'l caps in intro, not needed for such a poor career with his country, it's developped in the proper int.career section; 2 - when he moved to Santander in August 2003 in a season-long loan, it's obvious it would be for the 2003-04 season, so to write "season-long loan" would suffice methinks; 3 - i've been told by several trusted users (some admins) that you should write "2004-05 season" or "2008-09 campaign" instead of "2004-05" or "2008-09" only because it would be misleading (people would link we were talking about two YEARS instead of one SEASON). Now you, a native speaker of English, do exactly what i was advised not to do? Puzzling...

Cheers --AL (talk) 15:14, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm one of the "trusted users" Vasco is referring to when talking about writing '2008–09 season' rather than simply '2008–09' in article prose, interested to hear your take on it PeeJay. GiantSnowman 18:36, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough PJ, we'll keep it as it is :) --AL (talk) 22:16, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Club Templates

Hey, I started a discussion on WT:FOOTY regarding the American/Canadian soccer club templates and I'm wondering if you can give your imput on the situation. – Michael (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Pro Evolution Soccer 2009

While the difference could perhaps be considered noteworthy w/ some work, the contents of the cover need to receive a fair amount of coverage in a reliable secondary source. For example, Ico uses a second cover because multiple sources felt that the cover was significant to the game's commercial failure on the PS2. I don't think the Wii cover by itself has enough significance to be shown. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 21:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Nexus 5 article cleanup

Hello there! While I do appreciate your edit on the Nexus 5 article, I'm a bit sad that you compacted all of the references I've painstakingly entered in an "expanded" source code form. Their source code is now so garbled and unreadable... I know, not even nearly all of the references were "expanded", but even those few made things a bit more readable. :( -- Dsimic (talk) 18:50, 15 November 2013 (UTC)