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* {{Cite journal |last=Kirey-Sitnikova |first=Yana |date=2024-07-10 |title=“You should care by prohibiting all this obscenity”: a public policy analysis of the Russian law banning medical and legal transition for transgender people |url=https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1060586X.2024.2377933 |journal=Post-Soviet Affairs |language=en |pages=1–20 |doi=10.1080/1060586X.2024.2377933 |doi-access=free |issn=1060-586X}} |
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* {{Cite journal |last=Hotine |first=Emily |date=2021-08-12 |year=2021 |title=Biology, Society and Sex: Deconstructing anti-trans rhetoric and trans-exclusionary radical feminism |url=https://journal.nds.ox.ac.uk/index.php/JNDS/article/download/176/79/1051 |format=PDF |department=Equality, Diversity, Inclusion |journal=Journal of the Nuffield Department of Surgical Sciences |volume=2 |issue=3 |doi=10.37707/jnds.v2i3}} |
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The topic of this article is the ideology or movement known variously in reliable sources as gender-critical feminism (including abbreviated forms such as "GC", "GC feminism") or trans-exclusionary radical feminism (including abbreviated forms such as "TERF ideology", "TERFism" and similar expressions). The two main titles are equivalent. The article was split off from the article Feminist views on transgender topics where the corresponding section is titled "Gender-critical feminism and trans-exclusionary radical feminism." |
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Not a euphemism
@DanielRigal: How is ‘gender-critical’ a euphemism? Vorpalm’s changes look reasonable to me. Sweet6970 (talk) 18:44, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's literally in the Gender-critical_feminism#Terminology section how the "Gender-critical feminim" as a rebranded dog-whistle of its original of "trans-exclusionary radical feminist", so it fits the definition of wikt:euphemism. Raladic (talk) 18:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Radical feminism
Even the derogatory term for g-c feminism says that this is a radical form of feminism. Therefore the sidebar for radical feminism is appropriate and I am reinstating it. 18:45, 24 November 2024 (UTC) Sweet6970 (talk) 18:45, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, we don't need to re-hash this. This is a pretense often used by people to try to justify the anti-trans nature, but is contentious as reported by reliable sources.
- The two sidebars that are there are enough. Raladic (talk) 18:52, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. Nobody disputes that there are links to Radical Feminism but the GC movement has a, shall we say, fluid relationship to feminism, never mind Radical Feminism. If we look at the sidebar it includes some individuals and groups associated with the GC movement, who came to it via Radical Feminism, but not other individuals or groups who came to it via other paths. It doesn't include GC itself, under any name, which perhaps provides the strongest case for removing it. DanielRigal (talk) 19:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Gender critical feminism has a strong and notable tie to radical feminism. the 1979 book The Transsexual Empire was written by a radical feminist. I really can't believe anyone would try to make gender criticism somehow not related to radical feminism. Vorpalm (talk) 19:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- With a topic that is so connected to radical feminism, it would make sense to have the sidebar for radical feminism. Vorpalm (talk) 19:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. Nobody disputes that there are links to Radical Feminism but the GC movement has a, shall we say, fluid relationship to feminism, never mind Radical Feminism. If we look at the sidebar it includes some individuals and groups associated with the GC movement, who came to it via Radical Feminism, but not other individuals or groups who came to it via other paths. It doesn't include GC itself, under any name, which perhaps provides the strongest case for removing it. DanielRigal (talk) 19:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- It could go under a section, such as #Trans-exclusionary radical feminism, which explicitly mentions the term radical feminism in the subsection title, however even there it's specifically about terminology and that term is also used to refer to people who are not always feminist or radfem too. Web-julio (talk) 06:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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