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Short description: Type of biological mimicry in plants

A fact from Vavilovian mimicry appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 October 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that rye and oats used to be crop-mimicking weeds before they became domesticated?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/October.

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A summary of this article appears in mimicry.

What on earth does this sentence mean

Vavilovian mimicry is disjunct, meaning that the mimic, model, and dupe involved are all from different species. In Georges Pasteur's terms, the model is "agreeable to the dupe", whereas in Batesian mimicry, the model is "forbidding to the dupe[.]"

What?

Tiny cleanup

I removed the word 'male' from the caption on the mirror bee orchid, although I'd also like to see a source that it's mimicking wasps, given its name. But with the word 'male', it was suggesting that male wasps were drawn to the fake-male wasp. Possible, but seems unlikely. Since I don't know which was supposed to be male, and couldn't find a source, I removed the word. Happy to readd it with a source.

I also rearranged a sentence to remove the phrase 'at the hand of man' :)

I removed the sentence at the beginning of the paragraph on the flax-dodder since it wasn't clear that the plant actually is parasitic, and the sentence as written suggested that parasitic plants are vavilovian mimics in general, which I'm sure it wasn't supposed to suggest. Again, a nice source describing the flax-dodder as a parasite would allow a few nice sentences to be added.

Nice work though, I love the article. Clearly written, nicely explained, doesn't shy away from scientific terms. Skittle 10:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that, not sure how I managed to suggest it was a male that was being mimicked... As for the parasitic plant, that's what it says in an article, though I'm not 100% sure if it's a true parasitic plant. Richard001 10:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Changed lede to establish concept

When I first saw this article, I thought it was about some dramatic technique or similar! I've (hopefully) made it easier to understand the context, by adding 'In plant biology...' to the beginning of the lede, and replacing Vavilov's portrait with a picture (used to be lower down) which makes it obvious that the article is about biology (and not a person). HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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