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Happy editing! I dream of horses ^{(Contribs) (Talk)} 18:12, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! RowanElder (talk) 18:15, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for the help on Michael Peterson (geographer) page! GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 01:28, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

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Ekdalian (talk) 18:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll be careful since I don't know the ground well. This edit happened somewhat accidentally, when I was checking a spurious link from a mathematics page and I saw some easy-looking light copyediting to do on the incorrectly-linked page. RowanElder (talk) 22:36, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

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Aside

Hi RowanElder,

If you want to stop editing math articles and interacting with people who do edit math articles, that is of course entirely up to you (and it would be entirely at your own initiative, since no one else has asked you to do that, as far as I can see). But it is certainly sending mixed messages to keep adding to the same conversations after saying you're going to walk away from them.

You have not asked for my advice, but since you obviously have the potential to be a constructive math editor (and we need more of those), I am going to offer it to you anyhow: you should disengage from the specific conversations that are making you feel bad (and perhaps all of Wikipedia) for a couple of days. Have a pleasant weekend, maybe go for a hike or something. Then come back and re-engage, trying to keep in mind that people can disagree with you about whether a particular edit is an improvement without it being personal.

If you'd like to talk more, I'd be happy to do that, in a couple of days. --JBL (talk) 00:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the offer and advice, though I said nothing about intending to walk away from the conversations, just the article editing for the project, so I'm not sure why the message is mixed. I'd consider it pretty rude of me to just walk away without an explanation because people have strong feelings about this stuff and I respect those strong feelings. It's clearly lonely work and I'm making it a little lonelier by going, which is rough and I'm sorry to be doing that to people clearly motivated to be making the world a better place (and making it better especially for poor and isolated kids, in a way that's close to my heart). I thought it was important to say why I was leaving, i.e., the project was unwelcoming, and to give a sense of why. I intend to keep following that through unless you really think that's the wrong idea.

I'm kind of unhappy about the particular past frustrations here and there, for sure, but I'm not taking it personally. Honestly that's actually part of the problem! The impersonality isn't welcoming, it would have been a relief to have had more to take personally. I'm emotionally fine, and I'm trying to be a good citizen by "seeing something and saying something." Most people seem to just do "quiet quitting" here on Wikipedia but I don't think that's kind so it's not what I'm doing.

Re advice, for what it's worth, I've asked math Wikiproject participants for general advice many times and I was generally happy to get advice except when it involved people impolitely jumping to conclusions about who I was or why I was doing what I was doing. Please consider yourself asked and welcomed to give advice. RowanElder (talk) 00:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey, I've had a good weekend but I did find time to look over your recent history, and I'm no longer interested in your advice. The insulting jump you made in assuming I was quitting over a single edit war doesn't seem atypical of your behavior elsewhere. You jump to pretty insulting accusations pretty quickly. I think maybe for someone who has real trouble with their temper, the advice to go cool off for a few days does make really good sense. However, that was not my problem and I don't think you'll have much insight into my problem.

Thanks for the effort, but I recommend some self-work before giving more people advice. RowanElder (talk) 01:29, 28 October 2024 (UTC)