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Q: There are many "rules" associated with this page. Why?

A: Recent deaths is one of the most-viewed articles in Wikipedia. Deaths in 2023 was one of the most-read Wikipedia articles in 2023, with over 48 million views.[1] It is important that such a high-profile article have factual information presented in a consistent format.

Q: Why are there redlinks or redirects (deceased subject with no Wikipedia article) listed in the article?

A: Many notable people die before a Wikipedia article is written about them. The regular editors of this page have agreed that a death notice without an English-language article may remain for one month after the death, so that an article may develop. If there is no article after one month, then the death notice is removed from the list.

Q: Why is each death sourced by a simple citation only?

A: Each month, over 1000 deaths are reported. If the "cite news" template were used in each entry, the page would be slower to load as each instance of the template is rendered. Editors have decided by consensus to use a simpler cite in the form <ref>[url, title]</ref>.

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A: A new date is added after a new day starts in the time zone that first starts a new day. A relevant time clock can be found here.

This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report 33 times. The weeks in which this happened:

December 31, 2023 to January 6, 2024 (11th)
January 7 to 13, 2024 (9th)
January 14 to 20, 2024 (5th)
January 21 to 27, 2024 (10th)
January 28 to February 3, 2024 (9th)
February 4 to 10, 2024 (7th)
February 11 to 17, 2024 (13th)
February 18 to 24, 2024 (4th)
February 25 to March 2, 2024 (7th)
March 3 to 9, 2024 (7th)
March 10 to 16, 2024 (11th)
March 17 to 23, 2024 (8th)
March 24 to 30, 2024 (10th)
March 31 to April 6, 2024 (6th)
April 7 to 13, 2024 (10th)
April 14 to 20, 2024 (12th)
April 21 to 27, 2024 (7th)
April 28 to May 4, 2024 (5th)
May 5 to 11, 2024 (10th)
May 12 to 18, 2024 (4th)
May 19 to 25, 2024 (3rd)
May 26 to June 1, 2024 (4th)
June 2 to 8, 2024 (8th)
June 9 to 15, 2024 (3rd)
June 16 to 22, 2024 (7th)
June 23 to 29, 2024 (5th)
June 30 to July 6, 2024 (9th)
July 7 to 13, 2024 (8th)
July 14 to 20, 2024 (18th)
July 21 to 27, 2024 (16th)
July 28 to August 3, 2024 (15th)
August 4 to 10, 2024 (16th)
August 11 to 17, 2024 (5th)

Deaths needing proper citation

Via thorough browsing of the 2024 deaths category, I’ve found the following are marked as deceased and needing of proper citation. Rusted AutoParts 13:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

January 2 - Larry Sherrer, 74, American football player (Montreal Alouettes, BC Lions) and ophthalmologist (sourced on X)
January 22 - János Toldi, 96, Hungarian Olympic sprint canoer (sourced on Facebook)
January 25 - Rick France, 85, British speedway rider. (sourced on Facebook)
March - Tommy Duncan, 87, Scottish footballer (sourced on X)
April - Danny O'Donnell, 85, Scottish footballer (Brentford, Brechin City, Tonbridge) (sourced on X)
April 7 - John Giles, 97, British Olympic shot putter (no source; IP editor proclaiming to be his son edited his page to indicate death)
April 14 - Blackie Wangerin, 89, American racecar driver (sourced on Facebook)
June 1 – Salvador Miranda, 84, American bibliographer, librarian and church historian (sourced on X)
June 2 – Israel Even-Zahav, 77, Israeli Paralympic athlete (sourced on Facebook)
June 7 - Dolores Cambridge, 87, Australian opera soprano (sourced on Vimeo video link of funeral)
June 27 – Shaun Casey, 70, American model (sourced on Instagram and Facebook)
August 24 - Bette Bourne, 84, British actor and drag queen (sourced on Threads)

IMDB

Didn't wanna unilaterally revert if there'd be a consensus forged somewhere I didn't see, but is @Dimadick:'s inclusion of IMDB as an external link copacetic? Just seen it added to so many of the previous Deaths pages. Rusted AutoParts 02:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a convenient way to locate names in chronological order of death. I have been using it for years. Dimadick (talk) 02:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I get that, I have some saved pages with similar lists to check for any potential missed names needing listing/sourcing. It’s just you’re making a lot of additions to over three years worth of pages, and I’m not sure if that’s a choice others necessarily support. Rusted AutoParts 03:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB may be used as an external link, but not as a reliable source. See WP:IMDB. I was also inclined to revert, then noticed that it is OK as an EL. WWGB (talk) 04:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of suicidal methods?

For notable individuals who died by suicide, should we remove the methods used from the list? 73.208.44.57 (talk) 14:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why? You do not say. Ref ^(chew)(do) 15:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not saying I decide whether or not the method, if known, is listed. I am worried about a potential edit war with Bryan Krippner over this. See this revision. --73.208.44.57 (talk) 21:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are not generally worried about an edit war with anyone here. If the method of suicide is reliably sourced, it will always get included in an entry here. Other years are for others to work out amicably and civilly. Ref ^(chew)(do) 21:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why "Professional wrestling" is different

Some hours ago Refsworldlee deleted the designation of a professional wrestling performer as such and asked in the edit summary why the "professional" should be included. There has never been an issue in denoting the practitioners of rugby union or rugby league or Australian rules football and I don't think there should be one for freestyle wrestling or Greco-Roman wrestling even though the latter are both honestly competed sports as opposed to the theatrical presentations known as "Professional wrestling"...even the rules for competitors at the Sumo World Championships are different from those observed by sekitori. To treat the "kayfabe" show performers as a subset of legitimate athletes is misleading and should be avoided. 71.105.190.227 (talk) 07:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So there's the question presented formally - it just needs for interested editors to add their thoughts. If "professional wrestling" is indeed considered a dedicated named version of wrestling, it may need to be included. Ref ^(chew)(do) 07:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Professional wrestling is not a sport competition, it is scripted entertainment. I support its inclusion to differentiate it from true competitive wrestling. WWGB (talk) 07:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fair assessment. Not a fan of it either. Case proven. Ref ^(chew)(do) 14:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, it is a documented term and has a wiki about it (albeit one full of OR). But for balance and clarity, I usually add what type if competitive, similar to weight classes for boxers. Wylie pedia @ 11:30, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's been called professional wrestling for decades, maybe a century, so not sure why anyone would think they get to choose not to use the established term. 81.103.202.116 (talk) 08:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Pritchard

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-06/rat-of-tobruk-tom-pritchard-dies-aged-102/104187282 46.56.198.251 (talk) 07:56, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I presume from your abrupt post that you want Tom Pritchard added to Deaths in 2024. As he does not have a WP article, I will not be adding him. Another editor might. WWGB (talk) 08:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Normally we would go ahead and see what happens until one month is up as a redlink. But the source reveals very little of any notability save being a member of the so-called Tobruk Rats and living until 102. The first carries a slim notability given how many there were (14,000, and no others have ever been included here to my knowledge), the second (being able to dodge the Grim Reaper for as long as you can) is not a notability. This is not meant to sound disrespectful or mean, it's just me giving you a reason why I too won't be adding him. Thanks, may he rest in peace. Ref ^(chew)(do) 13:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Time-reflective link names

J. Richard Munro led Time Inc. into the merger with Warner Communications but was long gone from the company by the time the "Time-less" remnants were rebranded WarnerMedia...so the redirect "Time Warner" might be a better link for where he worked (in the spirit of those who played for sports teams before they moved to the cities that are in their current article names). 71.105.190.91 (talk) 12:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As Munro isn't even mentioned in the article you would like to redirect to, I think it inappropriate to change the description as it exists. If you're redirecting to an article/section, the subject should at least get a credit by name there. In any case, our entries are seldom exactly spot on with regards to specific linking, but still manage to guide the reader towards the relevant information, nonetheless. Ref ^(chew)(do) 14:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On 2024/08/19, insert "notable victims of the Bayesian yacht sinking"

On 2024/08/19, the Bayesian yacht sank. Rather than just "Mike Lynch", we should write "notable victims of the Bayesian yacht sinking". 188.218.210.140 (talk) 15:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Were there any other notable victims in the sinking that could be named? If not, then the change is not merited. Rusted AutoParts 17:38, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Lynch is currently the only notable (key word) victim here, (this source proves it) and therefore is the only entry on this page. Wylie pedia @ 17:39, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't Morvillo also notable? And also Jonathan Bloomer I think is notable, as he was the chairman of Morgan Stanley International 188.218.210.140 (talk) 11:59, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bloomer may not have a page, but he is notable DarkStarHarry (talk) 14:10, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Someone made a redirect article for Bloomer, so he has been added, at least until September 7. Also, WWGB has distinguished the event for the two deaths listed so far. Wylie pedia @ 08:13, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem strange that Bloomer won't redirect to the Morgan Stanley page, mainly because he doesn't get a mention there. Ref ^(chew)(do) 14:34, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that. One reason I didn't consider him notable. Wylie pedia @ 08:49, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2024

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Could you please change the age and source of Italian singer Umberto Marcato, who passed away on August 23? I know you have one source that states he was 88, but I have found a couple of others that says he was 94 years old. [2] [3] 95.203.37.22 (talk) 16:34, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Renewal6 (talk) 17:25, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most sources say though that he was 88. DrKilleMoff (talk) 19:32, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not the practice here to display age ranges such as "88 or 94", as it suggests some kind of guesswork on the part of either Wikipedia editors (English or otherwise) or mistakes by source publication editors. Age ranges here are usually one year apart separated by ndash (i.e. "87–88" or "93–94"). As far as I can tell from past experience, if the two-year age range cannot be displayed, the age is not shown at all until matters become clearer. Ref ^(chew)(do) 00:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the deep past we might have written 88/94 in such cases, but I favour omission until age is known. WWGB (talk) 04:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2024

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Could you please move Swedish hockey goaltender Boo Ahl to his correct date of death on August 8, according to this funeral notice? : [4] He is currently listed under August 9. 217.213.147.205 (talk) 08:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although the Ratsit records shows he died on the 9th, I think this family obituary notice is more likely to be more accurate, given that it was posted by family.

Done. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 08:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You’re welcome. I’m thinking that maybe there was some kind of time delay with Ratsit, because he died in another country? 217.213.147.205 (talk) 09:15, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ratsit takes their information from the Swedish tax agency. And Norway and Sweden have practically the same time zone. DrKilleMoff (talk) 17:57, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit of a paradox really - Ratsit are semi-official obiters, but Familjesidan source their info from published obituaries (usually via the families of the deceased) and create images of them. Something is not correct somewhere. I suspect he died on the 8th but they could not register his death officially until the 9th - that's the usual hiccup. Ref ^(chew)(do) 19:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2024

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Could ypou please move Swedish tennis player Peter Lundgren to his correct date of death on August 22? He is currently listed under August 23. Could you please also remove the "Death was announced..." text? [5] 92.39.0.212 (talk) 06:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done - thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 07:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+{{edit semi-protected|Deaths in 2024|answered=yes}}
 Could ypou please move Swedish tennis player [[Peter Lundgren]] to his correct date of death on August 22?
-He is currently listed under August 23. Could you please also remove the "Death was announced..." text?
+He is currently listed under August 23. Could you please also remove the "Death was announced..." text? [https://www.ratsit.se/19650129-Hans_Peter_Lundgren_Sundsvall/XkzHpPHBCsCMAdV1tvg9mtht2cUB7jRtiOVKnYPSBHE] [[Special:Contributions/92.39.0.212|92.39.0.212]] ([[User talk:92.39.0.212|talk]]) 06:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
+:{{done}} - thanks. [[User:Refsworldlee|'''Ref''']] <sup>[[User talk:Refsworldlee|(chew)]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Refsworldlee|<small>(do)</small>]] 07:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
-https://www.ratsit.se/19650129-Hans_Peter_Lundgren_Sundsvall/XkzHpPHBCsCMAdV1tvg9mtht2cUB7jRtiOVKnYPSBHE [[Special:Contributions/92.39.0.212|92.39.0.212]] ([[User talk:92.39.0.212|talk]]) 06:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)