User talk:Tollens

Question from Ginalyncharles (13:54, 23 July 2024)

Hello! I am trying to make, what I think, are minor edits to our school page. The correct motto, correct District name, correct CTE areas.

Also need to know if we have to keep information which is no longer relevant?

Thank you,

Gina --Ginalyncharles (talk) 13:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Gina!

You say "we" and "our": are you employed by the school in any way? If so, there are some mandatory disclosure requirements that I'd be happy to walk you through.

It looks like a couple of the minor edits were undone because the links you provided appear to be broken: are you able to provide a working URL?

In terms of information that you say is no longer relevant: ideally content should be updated, not removed. Since dates are provided throughout, there's no reason to remove anything as far as I can see, though some portions might need to be updated if they are inaccurate. For example, In 2000, the school opened its current library: I don't know if this is still true, but the solution if not would be to change it to "a new library" from "its current library" and talk more about the replacement if one exists, not delete it altogether (Just as an example. It might still be entirely correct, I have no idea). Similar would go for The case has not yet gone to trial – this should be updated, not removed. Tollens (talk) 06:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I am an employee at the school. Please let me know how to proceed. Thank you. Ginalyncharles (talk) 16:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

In that case, please add {{paid|user=Ginalyncharles|employer=InsertName}} to your userpage – this is so that others can easily see your affiliation with the topic. It is also strongly encouraged that editors with conflicts of interest like yourself not edit affected pages directly, but instead submit edit requests to be reviewed by others. This can be done easily using the edit request wizard. Tollens (talk) 06:16, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, How do I edit my user page? I would like to be the one to submit the school page updates and new information. Will I be able to do this after I update my user page? Thank you Ginalyncharles (talk) 14:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

If you click your username or this link it will take you there (and should automatically open the editor). There should be a pencil icon next to the "Publish page..." button, if you select it and click "Source editing" you can place the code above onto the page (changing InsertName to the name of your employer), then click "Publish page...". I am not certain what you mean about being the one to submit the updates: you can of course submit requests after you've updated your user page, but it is still very strongly encouraged that you not edit the school's page directly even after you update your user page. Making a request is very similar to editing the page directly – you still need to tell others exactly what needs to be updated and exactly what it should be replaced with (and typically requests are accepted as-is unless there are issues), the only difference is that someone else will take a look at your change before it is implemented into the article. Tollens (talk) 19:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Farsamjamshidi (19:41, 26 July 2024)

Hello, I want to create Wikipedia, but I don't know where to upload my certificate --Farsamjamshidi (talk) 19:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Farsamjamshidi! I see that your user page has been deleted, and that you've been given some information about why on your user talk page. While I cannot see the content of the deleted page, please be aware that Wikipedia is not for hosting resumes/CVs, promoting yourself or your company, etc. There are some fairly strict rules about when people qualify for a Wikipedia article to be written about them (outlined at WP:Notability), and even then it is strongly discouraged to write about yourself. If you do meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, somebody else will eventually write about you unprompted. Tollens (talk) 06:22, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Rami wicki (20:41, 27 July 2024)

How do I encourage others to edit the page that I've put together? --Rami wicki (talk) 20:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Rami wicki! Most of the time, you really don't – aside from tagging the talk page as being related to the Wikiprojects it falls under (which has already been done) and placing appropriate categories on the page (which you've done also), there's not a whole lot to do. People will come across the page organically, but this could take some time. Keep in mind that the article will never be done: there's no hurry. If you think there are specific big issues with the page, but you can't fix them, you could add cleanup tags pointing out those issues (though there are loads of articles tagged like this and so adding it probably won't drastically increase the number of editors working on it). Tollens (talk) 05:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Walakira Ronald165 on Talk:Stephanie McKay (03:55, 29 July 2024)

Can i get 1000 subscribers a day on my YouTube channel walakiraronald 165 in one week --Walakira Ronald165 (talk) 03:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello Walakira Ronald165; I'm only here to help with questions about using or editing Wikipedia, and Wikipedia is also not a place for advertising or promotion. Perhaps you can get 1000 subscribers a day, but I can't give you advice about how and Wikipedia will not be an effective place to point people to your channel from. Tollens (talk) 05:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Victory Chinedum (21:30, 31 July 2024)

How do I publish a new article? --Victory Chinedum (talk) 21:30, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Victory Chinedum, and apologies for the very delayed reply – there is a good information page at Help:Your first article that will hopefully be of use, and there is a button on that page that will help you create the page where you can work on your article. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that content in the article needs to be supported by citations to reliable sources (you can't use your own personal knowledge directly), and that the article must contain citations to multiple reliable sources that are both independent of the subject (so for example, in an article about a company, their website would not be independent) and have significant coverage of the subject rather than only a passing mention. Tollens (talk) 15:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

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User talk:Ginalyncharles

Hello—I am Neonorange I hope you do not mind my butting in, but I have just reverted an edit by an IP which is much like the edits to Sussex Technical High School made by the User talk:Ginalyncharles account. All of GC edits to mainspace have been reverted, mainly for deleting multiple citations.

I notice that on your talk page that the account directly claimed to be a school employee. I think this highly unlikely that this vandalism only account is employed by the school. I have left a warning on the ip talk page and intend to leave a warning on the GC talk page.

Please check the contributions at the GC talk page. I leave it to you to take up the impersonation since is was not on my talk page.

Thank you for lending your talk page. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 05:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC) —

Hey Neonorange, you aren't butting in! Thanks for the pointer, I am only working from my phone for the next week-ish so I will probably not be able to look at this very effectively until I'm able to sit down at a real computer again, but I'll certainly take a look then. From what I remember of the account's editing, I do think it's entirely plausible that it is controlled by an employee of the school, since it was mostly removing negative information about the school as well as a section that looked like it could very well have been outdated (not that removal of the section would have been correct even if so, just that I can imagine that a school employee might do so). I certainly agree the edits are problematic regardless. Tollens (talk) 15:32, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Dmbjrw67 (19:29, 8 August 2024)

How long after I make edits will they show up? --Dmbjrw67 (talk) 19:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Dmbjrw67, and welcome to Wikipedia! Edits are made public immediately after you click the publish changes button. It seems like you made an edit where you did not change any content on the page, but did provide quite a long edit summary, which may be the source of the confusion here. Edit summaries are not part of the article, they are only to help others figure out what you changed, and are visible only in the page history (in the case of your edit, that is here) and diffs, which show the changes that were made by each edit (in your case available here). You can see in that diff that you added only one blank line to the actual article: you may want to try again, placing your new text with the rest of the text of the article, then putting only a brief description of what you added in the edit summary box. Tollens (talk) 15:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Could you direct me on how to make an addition to the recipients section? That is what I'm trying to accomplish. Dmbjrw67 (talk) 16:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

If you go to the article page, you can click "Edit" near the top of the right-hand side of the page (or "Edit source" instead if that button is there), or alternatively you can use this direct link. That should bring up another page with the text of the article which you can type in: if you scroll to the place in the article you want to change, you can type directly into the article. If you look at other entries there are some extra parts of each entry that are responsible for the formatting which you should also include in your entry: your addition should look like :: {{Hanging indent|text=Your entry goes here}} before you click publish. When you are asked for an edit summary after clicking publish (where you put your content before), you can put something like "Added entry for person's name" so that others can easily tell what you changed. Tollens (talk) 16:57, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Mdogv91 on Laura Slade Wiggins (22:40, 11 August 2024)

How do I create a citation --Mdogv91 (talk) 22:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Mdogv91! You might find this set of short tutorial pages helpful, it covers why references are important, what sorts of references are OK to use on Wikipedia, as well as how to actually add the reference to an article. If you've gone through that and still need help, please do let me know what exactly you're struggling with and I'll be happy to assist. Tollens (talk) 06:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Tshirelecokarabo (04:06, 13 August 2024)

Hello mentor , how do I make a biography of someone? --Tshirelecokarabo (talk) 04:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Hello, Tshirelecokarabo, I'm Mathglot. Brand new users will find writing a biography a difficult task to tackle at this early stage. I would concentrate on learning how to make smaller edits in existing articles first; see your homepage for some ideas. Once you gain some experience, and Wikipedia terms like Notability, Reliable sources, and WP:BLP are familiar to you, then have a look at Help:Your first article for more details about how to go about writing a new article about someone. Good luck! Mathglot (talk) 05:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the help Tshirelecokarabo (talk) 19:00, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Sandboxed changes to uw-v1 re contributions phrase

Hi, Tollens, and thanks for the ping at Talk header. Not sure if you are interested in the multilevel user-warning templates, but I made a proposal here about a proposed change to the text about user contributions, and sandboxed it in {{uw-vandalism1/sandbox}}, in case you feel like commenting. It's been pretty quiet so far, and that page has 1,007 watchers, so it may just be acquiescence by silence. Mathglot (talk) 07:19, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I do use those templates quite frequently, not sure why I didn't have that talk page on my watchlist so thanks for the pointer! I've left some feedback there. Tollens (talk) 07:55, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

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Question from আকবরআলী356545 on Wikipedia:REGISTERED (11:14, 21 August 2024)

আমি এখানে যুক্ত হয়ে সাহায্য চাই --আকবরআলী356545 (talk) 11:14, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello আকবরআলী356545, and welcome to Wikipedia! It seems you might be interested in contributing to the Bengali Wikipedia rather than here at the English Wikipedia; if you need help getting started consider asking there instead.

মেশিন অনুবাদ: হ্যালো আকবরআলী356545, এবং উইকিপিডিয়ায় স্বাগতম! মনে হচ্ছে আপনি এখানে ইংরেজি উইকিপিডিয়ার পরিবর্তে বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়া অবদান রাখতে আগ্রহী হতে পারেন; শুরু করার জন্য আপনার সাহায্যের প্রয়োজন হলে পরিবর্তে সেখানে জিজ্ঞাসা করার কথা বিবেচনা করুন। Tollens (talk) 18:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Chemrach on Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee (18:16, 25 August 2024)

first --Chemrach (talk) 18:16, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello Chemrach – I'm not sure what you mean. Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? Tollens (talk) 18:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Highly irresponsible

Your move back to mainspace of List of kidnappings: 2020–present. BLP issues are not for AfD, they should be removed (in general, and from the mainspace in particular). Moving it back to the mainspace while being fully aware of the issues is really a very poor decision. Fram (talk) 07:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

@Fram: Sorry, you are absolutely correct, and for some reason I only realized this halfway through typing a response to this which would have disagreed. My original train of thought was that you had misidentified the page as being entirely new content, and so had moved it to draftspace as "this doesn't look ready yet" even though the content there had existed for multiple years. I realize now, and should have before, that you likely meant the move to be similar to WP:BLPDEL. Regardless of your rationale I agree that I shouldn't have restored it, and have literally zero idea why I thought restoring what I agreed were BLP violations was remotely appropriate even if you had made a mistake in moving the page to draftspace. I will give the article a look right away (again, what the hell was I thinking before to not do so previously) to address the BLP issues. I see some of them have been fixed with the most recent edit. If you would like to move it back to draftspace in the meantime please do. Tollens (talk) 08:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! No, between the edit already done and the extra look you will now give it, I see no reason to redraftify it. Don't fret on it, we all make mistakes (I've got the block log to prove it), not repeating them too often is the best we can hope for :-) Fram (talk) 08:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely – certainly not one I'll make again anytime soon. :-)

I've gone through and removed all the names where I can't find a source for a conviction or where I am certain there has been no conviction yet, and added one missing source; far as I can tell that covers everything that was not resolved in the previous edit. Tollens (talk) 09:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, much better now! Fram (talk) 10:42, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from DPF429 (14:31, 26 August 2024)

Tollens I need help I tried to add a sourced genre to I wanna be your lover by prince and something bad just happened --DPF429 (talk) 14:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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