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{{od}} [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] {{ping|PeleYoetz|Davidbena}} firstly citation 3, to [https://holyland-sites.blogspot.com/2013/07/jerusalem-beheaded-architects-graves-at.html this site], is a [[WP:SPS]] and therefore not a [[WP:RS]]. Secondly, could I ask which specific pages of the Cathedra source are being cited in the article? [[User:AirshipJungleman29|~~ AirshipJungleman29]] ([[User talk:AirshipJungleman29|talk]]) 13:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
{{od}} [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] {{ping|PeleYoetz|Davidbena}} firstly citation 3, to [https://holyland-sites.blogspot.com/2013/07/jerusalem-beheaded-architects-graves-at.html this site], is a [[WP:SPS]] and therefore not a [[WP:RS]]. Secondly, could I ask which specific pages of the Cathedra source are being cited in the article? [[User:AirshipJungleman29|~~ AirshipJungleman29]] ([[User talk:AirshipJungleman29|talk]]) 13:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|AirshipJungleman29}}, the author of this article cites from the academic journal "Cathedra" some six times, and the pages cited by him in this journal are pages 83–120. These are broad page numbers, rather than specific page numbers. {{ping|PeleYoetz}}, is it possible for you to add the specific page number to each cited reference?[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 17:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
:{{ping|AirshipJungleman29}}, the author of this article cites from the academic journal "Cathedra" some six times, and the pages cited by him in this journal are pages 83–120. These are broad page numbers, rather than specific page numbers. {{ping|PeleYoetz}}, is it possible for you to add the specific page number to each cited reference?[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 17:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::Yes—I am asking for the specific page numbers so I can directly check the [[WP:V|verifiability]]. Please also attend to the blogspot source. [[User:AirshipJungleman29|~~ AirshipJungleman29]] ([[User talk:AirshipJungleman29|talk]]) 17:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Architects' Tombs
- ... that according to legend, the engineers who built the Walls of Jerusalem are buried near the Jaffa Gate after the Ottoman sultan killed them for excluding David's Tomb on Mount Zion from the walls?
- ALT1: ... that according to legend, two tombs near the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem are said to belong to the architects of the city walls, who were killed by the sultan for leaving David's Tomb outside the walls? Source: https://www.iaa-conservation.org.il/projects_item_eng.asp?subject_id=10&site_id=3&id=112
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PeleYoetz (talk) 11:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
- I have begun the review process of this DYK, and the hook seems good and accurate, based on the source cited. The article is also new enough, having been created on 9 June 2024.
Article length and age are fine; no copyright violations or plagiarism could be found; reliable sources are used. Since, according to the sources cited, there are several suspected identifications for these graves, it is perhaps best to add in the lead paragraph: “Although disputed, these graves are attributed to the engineers of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent, who, according to Jerusalem legend, built the city's wall.” The hook should also clarify this point. For example:
- ALT2 ... that according to one legend, two engineers who built the Walls of Jerusalem are buried near the Jaffa Gate after the Ottoman sultan killed them for excluding David's Tomb on Mount Zion from the walls?Davidbena (talk) 03:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Based on the first reference/source that you cite in the article, the tombs are also known as Engineers' Tomb. This alternate name should also be mentioned in the lead paragraph.Davidbena (talk) 22:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Davidbena Now done. PeleYoetz (talk) 09:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Davidbena: Have your concerns been resolved, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 01:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720:, yes, to the best of my knowledge, all concerns have been resolved, and the DYK should be approved, as it is ready to go.Davidbena (talk) 13:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Davidbena: Have your concerns been resolved, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 01:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Davidbena Now done. PeleYoetz (talk) 09:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
@PeleYoetz and Davidbena: firstly citation 3, to this site, is a WP:SPS and therefore not a WP:RS. Secondly, could I ask which specific pages of the Cathedra source are being cited in the article? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29:, the author of this article cites from the academic journal "Cathedra" some six times, and the pages cited by him in this journal are pages 83–120. These are broad page numbers, rather than specific page numbers. @PeleYoetz:, is it possible for you to add the specific page number to each cited reference?Davidbena (talk) 17:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes—I am asking for the specific page numbers so I can directly check the verifiability. Please also attend to the blogspot source. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)