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:AFAIK, these terms in the Philippines are proper names, which may or may not be trademarked, and are treated as such by [[WP:RS]]. The rules of grammar do not limit proper nouns to trademarks, which is purely a commercial enterprise. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 09:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
:AFAIK, these terms in the Philippines are proper names, which may or may not be trademarked, and are treated as such by [[WP:RS]]. The rules of grammar do not limit proper nouns to trademarks, which is purely a commercial enterprise. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 09:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
::I mentioned trademark because [[MOS:TM]] explains why it's capped in [[NCAA Final Four]] in spite of the fact that it's obviously not a proper name, but a plain description, as explained at [[final four]]. [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 05:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::I mentioned trademark because [[MOS:TM]] explains why it's capped in [[NCAA Final Four]] in spite of the fact that it's obviously not a proper name, but a plain description, as explained at [[final four]]. [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 05:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Obviously, [[WP:RS]] treat it as a proper name. You don't need trademarks to transform phrases to proper names. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 10:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''': per Howard the Duck argument. '''<span style="background:#FFBE98;border:1px solid #FFF8E7;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:98Tigerius|<span style="color:#FFF8E7">98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂</span>]] • [[User talk:98Tigerius|<span style="color:#FFF8E7">[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]</span>]]</span>''' 11:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''': per Howard the Duck argument. '''<span style="background:#FFBE98;border:1px solid #FFF8E7;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:98Tigerius|<span style="color:#FFF8E7">98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂</span>]] • [[User talk:98Tigerius|<span style="color:#FFF8E7">[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]</span>]]</span>''' 11:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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Make some clarifications

Can we make an article separating the Final Four format per se from its implementation in men's basketball? Aeron Valderrama (talk) Aeron Valderrama (talk) 19:45, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 July 2024

– As far as I can tell, final four is a generic term, except in the context of the (American) NCAA Final Four, in which case it is their trademark. Dicklyon (talk) 05:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIK, these terms in the Philippines are proper names, which may or may not be trademarked, and are treated as such by WP:RS. The rules of grammar do not limit proper nouns to trademarks, which is purely a commercial enterprise. Howard the Duck (talk) 09:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mentioned trademark because MOS:TM explains why it's capped in NCAA Final Four in spite of the fact that it's obviously not a proper name, but a plain description, as explained at final four. Dicklyon (talk) 05:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously, WP:RS treat it as a proper name. You don't need trademarks to transform phrases to proper names. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: per Howard the Duck argument. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 11:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]