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The request to rename this article to PBA Best Player of the Conference award has been carried out.

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– The proper names of these awards do not include the word award, as checking news sources verifies. About half of these were originally correct and were capped in 2021 without discussion, for consistency with nba. Consistency with our own MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS is a better way to go. Alternatively, we could just drop the word award from the titles. Dicklyon (talk) 01:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I got the list from this template. Note that the listed award names do not include the word award in almost all cases. Examples of current usage in news can be found here, etc. Dicklyon (talk) 01:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support The string Best Player of the Year (and similar) is clearly a descriptive noun phrase capitalised for significance - contrary to MOS:SIGNIFCAPS. While they might be capitalised with some consistency within the niche of the PBA, more generally (see here) there is mixed capitalisation. I don't see good reason to capitalise the type of award in these titles (eg Best Player of the Year should be best player of the year). It is certainly clear from the evidence provided by the nom that award is not capitallised in sources and should not be capitalised in these titles. Cinderella157 (talk) 10:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're supporting more downcasing than I'm proposing here – I'm only proposing to downcase award, and still treat Best Player of the Year as the proper name of the award. I'm open to your alternative, but I think it's less likely to fly. Dicklyon (talk) 03:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support downcasing "award" and only that word. MOS:SIGNIFCAPS seems to be another usage altogether, like calling the PBA as "the Association". In proper nouns such as this, the first part of the article name does apply to that, and "award" no longer does so. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Support''' The string ''Best Player of the Year'' (and similar) is clearly a descriptive noun phrase capitalised for significance - contrary to [[MOS:SIGNIFCAPS]]. While they might be capitalised with some consistency within the niche of the PBA, more generally (see [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Best+Player+of+the+year+award%22&sca_esv=71668abf73626b35&hl=en&tbm=nws&ei=2ayMZqHWINjd2roP_cyKgAY&start=20&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjhpunDgJmHAxXYrlYBHX2mAmA4ChDw0wN6BAgEEBk&biw=2122&bih=1081&dpr=0.88 here]) there is mixed capitalisation. I don't see good reason to capitalise the type of award in these titles (eg ''Best Player of the Year'' should be ''best player of the year''). It is certainly clear from the evidence provided by the nom that ''award'' is not capitallised in sources and should not be capitalised in these titles. [[User:Cinderella157|Cinderella157]] ([[User talk:Cinderella157|talk]]) 10:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 *:You're supporting more downcasing than I'm proposing here – I'm only proposing to downcase ''award'', and still treat Best Player of the Year as the proper name of the award.  I'm open to your alternative, but I think it's less likely to fly. [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 03:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
-*::Support downcasing "award" and only that word. [[MOS:SIGINIFCAPS]] seems to be another usage altogether, like calling the PBA as "the Association". In proper nouns such as this, the first part of the article name does apply to that, and "award" no longer does so. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 18:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
+*::Support downcasing "award" and only that word. [[MOS:SIGNIFCAPS]] seems to be another usage altogether, like calling the PBA as "the Association". In proper nouns such as this, the first part of the article name does apply to that, and "award" no longer does so. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 18:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)