Talk:Titan submersible implosion

Edit request

In the 'Oceangate' section near the top it currently reads, "Since 2010, it has transported paying customers.." Instead of using the present perfect continuous tense, it is more appropriate/correct to use the past perfect tense, i.e. "From 2010 until the loss of the Titan submersible, Oceangate transported paying customers..." Oceangate have suspended all operations. Coupled with the circumstances of the Titan's loss and the death of Rush, it seems very unlikely they'll operate again. In any event, until or unless they do resume operations, it is better to edit this text to convey the fact that they presently do not operate. 2A00:23EE:1C28:3BCE:81D0:3A56:D9F4:AD76 (talk) 21:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Done. This is consistent with the tense used in the article OceanGate. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:51, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Needs Photo Of Titan

Can you add a photo of the Titan submersible in the infobox below "Titan submersible implosion" so we know what exactly imploded. 86.17.54.133 (talk) 12:32, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Per [1], the image of the Titan submarine cannot be used in this article. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 12:46, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Why cant you use a picture of the submarine? surely there is a non-copyrighted one. Dappy373 (talk) 18:19, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

See § Image of Titan and see WP:NFCC which is cited in that discussion. --Super Goku V (talk) 06:43, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Plenty of previous discussion about this, see the talk page archive. It would need to be a free to use photo, not a copyrighted one or a pretend CGI version.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:48, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Energy and Kinetics

There needs to be a discussion of the energy and kinetics of the implosion. I could easily provide one, but it might constitute Original Research. We don't know the exact depth of the implosion, but: Depth at bottom - 12,500 ft. Pressure at bottom - approx. 375 atmospheres, 5,500 psi. Volume inside pressure hull - approx. 284 cu. ft. Energy liberated - approx. 225,000,000 ft lbs, or the potential energy represented by a Boeing 727 at 1,000 ft. elevation. Water at that depth is compressed about 1 1/2%, so the implosion would have been almost instantaneous.

Does anyone know a published source for this? Martino3 (talk) 18:08, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Biased point of view - social media

Describing social media chatter as merely negative seeks to blame the public for the follies of a rich man who created an international disaster that was entirely foreseeable and preventable. Noting the tax dollars used to fish these men out of the ocean so that laws can be enacted to prevent further people from engaging in the same behavior, the public had no where to go with it but to notice that only a fool would launch themselves to the bottom of the ocean in an experimental craft of such ill repute. No on is to blame for the disaster but the company and the men involved. The public has the right to comment on what happened and furthermore to notice that the company was still claiming these men were alive when Naval experts, engineers and anyone with common sense correctly deduced these men died upon an obvious implosion, because you know, physics. The public has the right to question why their military is falsely claiming this is a rescue mission when it was clearly a salvage operation and to what extent the US Military has the legal obligation to tell the public about civilian maritime disasters in real time. 2604:2D80:A48F:300:A184:9338:EB1B:E701 (talk) 15:14, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Tend to agree with your sentiments. But WP is tied to using "reliable sources" and cannot use "the public" in the form of social media. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:34, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Edit request: Verify Statement Source

Under the section "18 June, Dive and disappearance" it states "James Cameron indicated that it was likely that the sub's early warning system had alerted the passengers to an impending delamination of the hull. He added "we understand from inside the community that they had dropped their ascent weights and were coming up, trying to manage an emergency." with the source attributed to [74]. I cannot find anywhere in the source where this is stated. Can anyone else verify that this is correct? Rookiek13 (talk) 00:27, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

It's in the video embedded in the article, but not the text. Article refs updated. Mitch Ames (talk) 01:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)