Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 September 4

4 September 2023

Cristiano Ronaldo Jr.

Cristiano Ronaldo Jr. (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

Original AfD in January 2023 (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cristiano Ronaldo jr) came to the conclusion that the article should be redirected. Since then, I had improved the page and published it, but it was suggested that it be merged with Cristiano Ronaldo. Besides the nomination for merging, the discussion had received three opposes and one support, but was closed as a result of the original AfD from January. With the article in its current state clearly not having a clear consensus on its notability, I feel it is worth a review. Davidlofgren1996 (talk)

• Speedy restore The closer of the merge discussion willfully ignored a lack of consensus to merge by citing a months-old AFD. Further, this AFD was incorrectly withdrawn and redirected after less than 14 hours. That can not be taken as consensus since any potential keep votes were deprived of over six days of voting time (and two redirect votes is nowhere near a WP:SNOW close). Even if there was broad consensus to redirect in January,Consensus can change. And it’s clear that there is now support to allow a standalone article based on newer sourcing. Frank Anchor 18:23, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
• Endorse or Relist I think the people here are missing the point, The article was merged by AFD because of no notability (WP:INHERIT) not because of lack of sources or it needs improvement, the more of sources it doesn't change it status, Cristiano Ronaldo Jr. is not a professional footballer yet, he is 13 years old and he has been playing for juniors teams and that fails the guidelines in WP:ATHLETE, There are many sources talking about him because he is son of one of Cristiano Ronaldo one of the most famous football players in the world not because his career, so it clearly a WP:BIORELATED article. Therefore, Even if there were problems in the AFD; the main problem of the article can't be overlooked. --Ibrahim.ID ✪ 20:18, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Kalki Avatar and Muhammad (closed)

Kalki Avatar and Muhammad – Procedural close – this AfD was endorsed at DRV less than a week ago, and there's no evidence that anything has changed since then. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:39, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Kalki Avatar and Muhammad (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore) The writer of the book Ved Prakash Upadhyay and the book also is notable and the afd was closed in a misunderstanding. See Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 August 17 and Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Kalki Avatar and Muhammad. 202.134.10.130 (talk) 14:48, 4 September 2023 (UTC) Endorse close and I recommend speedy termination of this review. I opposed the close in the first deletion review but the community has spoken and I accept that review and Drmies’ decision to delete the article. This was the most complicated and troubled AfD I’ve encountered since my return from a long wikibreak last fall. I was an admin myself before that break and I don’t envy the task Drmies took on. The thrice-relisted AfD hung around for perhaps a day after the deadline to close - no other admin wanted to touch it. I’ll also note that my !vote in the AfD was “delete and merge” to the author’s article; it was not “keep”. So even had my talk page comments been seen, I think the article would’ve still been deleted - perhaps just also merged. —A. B. (talk • contribs • global count)< A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 16:42, 4 September 2023 (UTC) pinging @ Robert McClenon as an active, neutral participant in the last DRV who looked at both sides of the issue both there and at the WP:ANI discussion of the DRV. —A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 16:49, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.