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adding pictures

Hi, I need help on adding pictures on pages especially from the USA where I have my own hundreds of pictures taken from many historical places, national and state parks Garteners (talk) 08:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Garteners Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you took the images yourself, you may upload them according to the instructions at WP:UPIMAGE. If you didn't take them yourself, it is much harder as copyright needs to be determined. What specific help do you need? 331dot (talk) 08:52, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks 331dot

All pictures are mine most of them are taken with a Nicon Coolpix p1000 and other cameras. ( I am an amateur photographer )

I have some great ones from Antelope Canyon, Death Valley, Racetrack playa, Yellowstone, Badlands, Arches and Canyonlands, Devils Tower, Denali Alaska etc...I want to know how do I add them on a wiki page ( lets say Antelope Canyon or Four Corners etc..) using html code.

Thanks in advance!! Garteners (talk) 11:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@Gartners: Wikipedia is always looking for high quality appropriately licensed photos, but it generally preferred that you upload such photos to Wikipedia's sister project Wikimedia Commons. You probably should, however, take a close look at c:Commons:Licensing, c:Commons:Derivative works, c:Commons:License revocation, c:Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia and c:Commons:Enforcing license terms before you start uploading anything just to make sure you understand what it means to upload your photos to Wikipedia or Commons. You may want your photos to be used in Wikipedia articles, but there's no 100% guarantee that such a thing will happen. If other members of the Wikipedia community feel that you're photos aren't improvements to the articles in question, you may have to establish a consensus in favor of using them on the relevant articles talk page. One other thing to consider is that even if the photos do end up being used in Wikipedia articles, there's no way to limit their reuse to only Wikipedia. Others will be able to freely download the photos and use them in pretty much any way they want without out needing to get your permission each time they want to do so as long as they comply with the terms of whatever copyright license you choose. I'm not trying to discourage you from uploading your photos, but you should understand what that entails and make sure it's something you want to do. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:20, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Marchury! Garteners (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

You can also load your pictures to a Walmart account and order prints of all sizes, and create an account on Google photos, and load them there.🙂 Lord Milner (talk) 13:33, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Official web page: Invalid SSL certificate (expired)

Hi, should I temporarily unlink the official web site on an article if the SSL security certificate is invalid? It brings up a warning in my web browser (I could choose to ignore the warning and visit the site anyway):

Details: NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID: This server could not prove that it is alissic.co; its security certificate expired 190 days ago.

There's no point in changing the link to http, as that just redirects to https.

Thanks, Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 08:55, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

I recommend adding an archive link for people who are spooked away by the warning. Carpimaps (talk) 10:50, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, yes I did wonder about that. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 10:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

@Esowteric: {{web archive}} is a good template to use for providing an archive link in an External links section of an article. GoingBatty (talk) 15:31, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, GoingBatty. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 15:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Print to a file

How does one print a wikipedia article to a file, such as a MS Word file? ----RedYellowGreen1599 (talk) 10:28, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

you could look up "how to insert html into a word document". might be the easiest way to copy the exact look of wikipedia into word.

for display only it might be better to use PDF.

for editing, it might be better to only copy the text. Bart Terpstra (talk) 12:19, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

If you want a PDF file, try "Print/export | Download as PDF". -- Hoary (talk) 10:31, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Copy/pasting the article is probably sufficient in most cases. However, if you would like to preserve page formatting and images, etc, then your best bet is to use your browser’s view source function and copy all of the HTML code in it. This code can then be placed in a text editor, and then saved as a .html file. This will allow you to view it in a browser even offline. Be sure to download all of the images first. The page will, of course, only work properly if the images are in the same directory as the .html file you just created. Pablothepenguin (talk) 19:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

modern browsers support "save page as", which will download it as a single HTML page and also most assets on the page (fonts, images), which saves you from having to do it manually. Bart Terpstra (talk) 19:54, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

@RedYellowGreen1599: Hi there! After saving the article as a PDF, you could use one of the free online tools that will convert a PDF to a Word doc. Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 15:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

WP:Splitting

When creating a proposal for splitting an article, how long until the discussion is closed? I didn't see how many days on WP:Splitting. Cwater1 (talk) 03:40, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Cwater1. There is no recommended time and I don't know whether any editors monitor proposals in a systematic way. One of the problems is that a decision to split can be complicated to carry out. The oldest proposal still listed at Category:Articles to be split is Talk:Winning streak#Split proposed from August 2016, but it was partially done in 2021. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:01, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

I guess it can be up to me if I started one. Cwater1 (talk) 04:03, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

If there are opposes then it may be controversial to close your own proposal as supported. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:14, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Cwater1 (talk) 17:04, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

hi

is chess.com and lichess as source allowed? Secret dollars (talk) 04:31, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

hi @Secret dollars and welcome to the Teahouse! are you using them to cite a blog post or a particular chess game (or their analysis of that game)? 💜  melecie  talk - 05:04, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Secret dollars: Hi there! You might want to ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess (if it's not already listed in the talk page archives). I suggest providing some examples of what URLs you would want to use as sources, and which articles you would want to have those sources. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:18, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Stamford Mercury reliable source?

Hello i wanted to know if the newspapet stamford mercury is a reliable source to add informations for a draft? Veganpurplefox (talk) 13:25, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Veganpurplefox We have an article about the paper itself at Stamford Mercury but I don't see anything in the WP:RSN archive. So I guess it is as reliable as any historic newspaper but this will crucially depend on what statement you want the source to support. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Waiting to write?

I set up my user page so that I could write an article. So far, I just keep getting looped through the article wizard back to the beginning. Is that because my user page has to be approved first? I can't do anything in sandbox but another user page. MD Free (talk) 16:52, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@MD Free: Welcome to the Teahouse. Your user page does not need to be approved, and I've had no trouble getting the article wizard to direct me to Draft:Otherwize. You can click on the aforementioned link to start the draft, though the article wizard does have pointers as to what is and isn't acceptable for a Wikipedia article. When you're absolutely ready for it to be reviewed, add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:06, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Oh really?! It looks like it is the user page draft to me. Lol, thank you! I will take your word for it. Worst case scenario is that my Otherwize article ends up on my user page. Thanks again! I appreciate that! MD Free (talk) 17:42, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

It is worth mentioninging that an article on Otherwize was deleted in 2007 after this discussion. You should be careful to ensure that a new draft clearly demonstrates his notability in the sense used by Wikipedia. The information at WP:42 should help. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:10, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

I saw that, it was terribly rude and deserves amendment! MD Free (talk) 17:48, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Adding to the above, your userpage is for, if you like, writing a little about who you are and what you like to do as a Wikipedian. It's not the place to try to write an article. Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing may be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:25, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Vandalism documentation

Does Wikipedia have a tool or WikiProject or something like that dedicated to documenting vandalism? Crainsaw (talk) 17:18, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Crainsaw, see WP:CVU. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:25, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Sdkb but WP:CVU doesn't document vandalism, even their task force about studying vandalism is dead, and their goal wasn't even to document vandalism. Crainsaw (talk) 19:33, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Crainsaw, hmm, if by "document" you mean research on vandalism, meta:Research will have some studies. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:07, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Something is throwing an error when I remove POV text

I am getting an error that I am making an unconstructive edit when I attempt to revert an article about a serial killer back to a previous version. A user edited the page to remove references to pedophilia. This editor was was then banned for other propedo edits.

The article in question is: The article in question is:Yevgeny Petrov (serial killer)

Any help in fixing this is appreciated 107.115.5.80 (talk) 18:50, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Maybe making a Wikipedia account will help. There is additional security restrictions in place probably. Adler3 (talk) 19:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

You may have hit an edit filter, more specifically Special:AbuseFilter/384. You can ask another editor that are WP:AUTOCONFIRMED to make the edit. Carpimaps ^{talk to me!} 04:15, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Where can I access my old Teahouse posts / questions?

I want to use these for reference. Thanks, TrademarkedTarantula (talk) 18:52, 21 May 2023 (UTC).

You have to click Archive. This also works in the Talk page Adler3 (talk) 19:16, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

There is a search-box for the Teahouse above, you can search your username and go from there:[1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:50, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Redlinks

Hi, Does having a redlink on a article when an article (redlink article) doesn't exist improve or depreciate the quality of the article on Wikipedia by adding such redlinks? See here: Satyavedu Assembly constituency 456legend(talk) 19:14, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, 456legend and welcome to the Teahouse. I sometimes add redlinked articles, if I feel that Wikipedia would benefit from having an article about that subject, and if it's likely that another editor might create that article. This may provide other editors with ideas for articles to create. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 19:31, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

See WP:REDLINK for a good guide on red links. It does a decent job of when to or not red link. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 19:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Link to article that was edited the longest ago

Is there a way to see which article was last edited the longest ago, or see the articles that were created more than 10 years for example. Adler3 (talk) 19:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Special:AncientPages lists those pages that haven't been edited for the longest time. There is also Wikipedia:Wikipedia's oldest articles. Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:46, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Thx Adler3 (talk) 19:48, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Adler3 and Shantavira: there's also WP:DUSTY. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

questions with user Talk Pages

hi, how do i cite sources on someone else's user talk page? since i saw the owner of the talk page be able to cite sources, also, i was having a conversation on a talk page of a user on my phone and suddenly i wasn't able to reply anymore, i wasn't even able to look at the reply thread until i switched to laptop where i was able to view and reply. can someone please tell me the answers to these two questions? thank you Natieboi (talk) 19:18, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

You can do links and add the numbers manually as the link text. I do not know how to do it otherwise, but maybe there is a dedicated tool to it. Link text can be added like Link text. Adler3 (talk) 19:19, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Natieboi (talk) 09:18, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Natieboi and welcome to the Teahouse. Add references (<ref> ... </ref>) to your talk page message, then below these, add {{Reflist-talk}} which creates a list of references for a talk page discussion within a particular section. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 19:26, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Here is an example. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 19:37, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

{{reftalk}} is the same thing, slightly shorter. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:47, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

(There's also {{Notelist-talk}}, which you may occasionally need). Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 19:54, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Ok thanks a lot Natieboi (talk) 09:19, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

References

Something about CoI

Hi. So I've been figuring out how to remove the CoI tag from the article Laugh Factory. Here are my questions:

1. How does one know if a contributor has a close connection with the subject?
2. How does one fix this error? Do they have to remove any content that shows CoI?
3. For more information, see this specific comment on the article's talk page.

Thanks, TrademarkedTarantula (talk) 20:49, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

TrademarkedTarantula, boldface is unnecessary. (1) The Banner said (in April 2016) that they inferred it from the content. (2) The template itself has a link, "Learn how and when to remove this template message". You might start by comparing the content as it then was to the content as it now is. -- Hoary (talk) 22:46, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

TrademarkedTarantula, that article was created by a long inactive editor whose entire efforts on Wikipedia was devoted to promoting this comedy club and its founder. The references are poor. One is a blog post by the founder, and the following reference is a blog post too. Others are taken directly from the club's website, or obviously generated by the club's press releases. The NPR reference doesn't even mention the club. The ABC 10 News reference is a routine business opening announcement.

What should be done is to identify actually reliable sources that are truly independent of the club and its founder, and that devote significant coverage to the club. Summarize those sources and get rid of the rest. Cullen328 (talk) 22:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

The visual editor is creating duplicate content

The visual editor has a bug that duplicates content. I have seen several occasions where a reference has been duplicated at the top of the page. How do we report a technical issue like this? Fieryninja (talk) 22:11, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Fieryninja: I haven't tried it, but at the top of Wikipedia:VisualEditor there is a link to create a problem report. You can also try asking about your problem at WP:VPT. RudolfRed (talk) 22:20, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Please, can someone fix this

In Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore, the part of "Future" should say "Canceled sequels" ,because the film series was cancelled. Sources:[2]https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/11/11/fantastic-beasts-cancelled/ [3]https://bolavip.com/en/offside/fantastic-beasts-cancelled-why-did-warner-bros-decide-not-to-continue-with-the-franchise-20221104-0026.html [4]https://movieweb.com/fantastic-beasts-cancelled-tv-series/ [5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MejeJqFcxtU [6]https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/news/fantastic-beasts-4-movie-cancelled-harry-potter/ [7]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MejeJqFcxtU 190.21.169.218 (talk) 00:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. You will have a lot more luck discussing this on the article's talk page at Talk:Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore and leaving an edit request. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:37, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I already wrote something there and no one has answered, besides, i can't do nothing because the page is protected 190.21.169.218 (talk) 00:50, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

There is no record of your IP making any edits to that page, nor have there been any recent discussions related to what you're talking about. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but it was another IP, i don't know why my IP changes 190.21.169.218 (talk) 01:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

IP addresses change based on a number of factors such as what network you are connected to as well as other factors. 💜  melecie  talk - 03:29, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

The request that I presume is yours is titled In "Starring" the list is not complete. Well, different people are likely to have different opinions of what constitutes stardom in a particular film. This doesn't mean that this could never be a matter for rational dispute, but you don't say anything on the talk page that seems likely to get a reaction much beyond "Uh-huh. And so?" -- Hoary (talk) 02:37, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Pink News draws on, and misrepresents, what Variety wrote, and Variety reads: As for what’s next? There’s speculation about whether or not “Fantastic Beasts” will complete its ambitions as a five-film franchise. At the moment, there’s no screenplay for a fourth installment, sources have confirmed. Executives at Warner Bros. are waiting to see how “The Secrets of Dumbledore” is received before giving films four and five the greenlight. [My emphasis].

As your many Chile-based dynamic IPs have been told before, we are still awaiting official confirmation, and this is why your many attempts at introducing your own interpretation of sources have been reverted by other editors. As have your attempts to change the Fantastic Beasts film billing blocks and cast lists, and to change the titles/headlines of citations/references, over a period of many months. The many reversions, page protections, user notices, warnings, and blocks should maybe tell you something. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 08:15, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Here is a diff of a typical edit made by you with an earlier IP address (with an incomplete/deceptive edit summary). Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 08:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Repackage tracklist dilemma

Usually, on articles about albums that have deluxe/repackage editions, I see that their separate tracklists only include the bonus tracks.

However, on some albums, these bonus tracks are spread out all over the album (in one case, a song from the standard edition is moved to another position).

Should I keep the full tracklist as is? Or should I reduce to bonus tracks only as usual? Baxyofh4rd (talk) 02:04, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Baxyofh4rd: Welcome to the Teahouse! If WP:ALTTRACKLISTING does not answer your question, I suggest asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums/Album article style advice. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:11, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Use of Global Times

I wish to use a Global Times article for an article on a trolleybus route in Shanghai. I'm well aware that this is a depreciated source, but this is one of the very few sources I can find in English (most others are Chinese), and if I were being honest I don't think this particular article can be harmful even if this is used, considering this is on a general topic of trolleybuses and not some controversial topic like politics. In this case, is it okay if I were to use this particular GT article inside my Wikipedia article? SBS6577P (talk) 03:47, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

SBS6577P, WP:GLOBALTIMES points not only to a discussion deprecating GT but also responses to subsequent questions akin to "I know that GT is deprecated, but could it be used as a source for xyz?" Their responses can be summarized as "no". Are none of the sources in Chinese usable? If not, then it is indeed rather hard to imagine how a trolleybus route could be misrepresented for propaganda purposes, but the place to ask isn't here but instead WP:RSN. -- Hoary (talk) 06:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Error uploading image

When attempting to upload File:Seal of St. Francois County, Missouri.png, it returned an error (local-swift-codfw) and isn't visible. I tried uploading it as a new version, but it didn't accept it since it was identical to the "existing" file. I tried to upload a slightly modified version (https://i.imgur.com/4sEmJZO.png), but it said that it was "in an inconsistent state within the internal storage backends." Should I try again (under a new name)? Sockwell162 (talk) 05:24, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Sockwell162: It seems to have uploaded successfully, since it was visible here before I changed it to a wikilink. RudolfRed (talk) 05:33, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Ah, it's visible for me now too. Sockwell162 (talk) 05:43, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Grumman FAAV Notability

I have found that there is no article pertaining to the Grumman VAAF prototype of the early '90s. I do not know if there is enough outside coverage of the aircraft to deserve its own article, but I have found multiple articles that reference it: Lift fan; Grumman; BCalow (talk) 06:21, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

No matter, BCalow. What matters is what's written in reliable sources about your proposed subject. Here (in this message thread), feel free to present the links to what you think are the best three sources. -- Hoary (talk) 06:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

These 3 sources are what I believe to be the most reliable

aerospaceprojectsreview.com/blog/?p=1203

ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19960027883

hitechweb.genezis.eu/vtol3c.htm

The last source I am not sure the validity of, but it is the only other source I was able to find BCalow (talk) 07:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

BCalow:

• aerospaceprojectsreview.com/blog/?p=1203 -- "Blog" is worrying, but it's a description of an article published in a magazine, so the latter could be cited. However, it's "A brief article on a trio of Grumman designs from the 1989-1993 time period, VTOL lift-fan combat aircraft, including the Future Attack Air Vehicle (FAAV)"; and thus FAAV is discussed in one third of "a brief article", which again doesn't sound encouraging.
• ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19960027883 -- This doesn't mention FAAV by name, but perhaps it's about FAAV. It's actually an introduction to this PDF, which doesn't obviously mention FAAV other than in one footnote. Is it about FAAV? You describe FAAV as a prototype; this PDF is about a 1/8 size model, if I understand right. I'm left uncertain about whether, or to what degree, this is about FAAV.
• hitechweb.genezis.eu/vtol3c.htm -- There's only one short paragraph here about FAAV. And it seems to be in the private website of one Matej Furda.

I don't see how this adds up to Wikipedia-defined notability. -- Hoary (talk) 08:47, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. I haven't written a article from scratch before, so I didn't know if this constituted writing its own article. Thanks again BCalow (talk) 17:42, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

How do i remove hackers from my computer?

Help! How do i remove hackers from my computer not working? 2001:D08:2941:CC36:8CE8:A8FF:2581:7E2D (talk) 10:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This is a place to ask questions about using Wikipedia, it is not a place for asking general questions. I would suggest contacting your ISP or using Google to search for those that can help you. 331dot (talk) 10:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm going to assume good faith for a moment and suggest you first read our article to understand what a hacker actually is. Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:37, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Possible edit war

I restored this edit to the Mahesh Bhatt article as I believe it is important information (it was removed by Atlantic306) but I don't want an edit war (he may remove it again). Is what I restored fine as it is or does it need tweaking?-1Firang (talk) 11:02, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

331dot can you please make time to answer this (my above) question also?-1Firang (talk) 11:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

There has been no 'edit war'. You haven't been reverted, and if this happens (which given the source cited, and the possible WP:BLP implications of the material added, seems possible) the correct procedure is to discuss the matter on the article talk page. Not here. Not on Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics. [8]. You have already been informed of Wikipedia policy on canvassing multiple times, and continuing in this manner (i.e. looking to bring specific contributors into a dispute) is eventually going to result in you being sanctioned. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

There's been no edit war but I am trying to pre-empt it by asking for help with how the sentence has been framed.-1Firang (talk) 13:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Don't go into an edit assuming that there will be an edit war. It takes two to edit war- if you refrain from doing so, you will not be sanctioned for edit warring. The place to ask for help with an edit is, as noted, on the appropriate article talk page(first, at least). 331dot (talk) 13:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Need help

Hello i need help i already make an article with some photos that are from random website and these photos are free to publish they are not violate rules here and how i will edit them because Mrs Liz told me about COI.

I am not owner and the motorcycles are my hobby because I have no vested interests or advertisements, I just like motorcycles and I know this brand by heart.

Please i am a very novice in wikipedia i need help. Tresor23 (talk) 11:02, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Tresor23 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Photos from websites are almost never appropriate for use on Wikipedia. They only would be if the copyright of the image is clearly shown to allow use of the photo for any purpose or if the photo is otherwise in the public domain(such as works of the US federal government).

I don't know who "Mrs Liz" is, but it certainly is not a conflict of interest to merely be interested in the topic of motorcycles. Your attempts at a draft seemed to just consist of posting an external link, they did not seem to be efforts to write an encyclopedia article, which is the most difficult task to perform here. 331dot (talk) 11:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

He must have meant Liz who told him about this, "Teahouse" on his talk page.-1Firang (talk) 11:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

true as you said Tresor23 (talk) 12:26, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

I want to be legal here on the wiki and contribute, as for the photos I will look it up again because I am not in the mood for trouble thank you 331dot Tresor23 (talk) 12:28, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Tresor23 and welcome to the Teahouse. If you have difficulty with the English language, perhaps you might consider contributing to one of the other Wikipedia sites that uses your native language, until you get used to editing at Wikipedia? Here's a list of Wikipedias in different languages. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 11:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I know some English, Thank you for your answer. Tresor23 (talk) 12:25, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Where does paraphrasing end and plagiarizing begin?

This section in Ron DeSantis, added here,

He lifted restrictions earlier than most other state governors, but implemented measures to protect the elderly. DeSantis managed to avoid the dire consequences predicted by many, Florida’s death rate was within the national average, and the state’s economy fared better than many others.

is based on this text in Encyclopedia Britannica:

he lifted restrictions much earlier than other governors, though he implemented measures to protect the elderly. While many predicted dire consequences, Florida’s death rate (more than 75,000 people) was within the national average, and the state’s economy fared better than many others.

Aside from the WP text giving DeSantis unsourced credit, is this acceptable as paraphrasing? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 11:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I'd say this is next to the line on paraphrasing as it says essentially the same with but rephrased in certain areas. FusionSub (talk) 11:19, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

It's plagiarism. -- Hoary (talk) 11:55, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

It's also a very pro-DeSantis position. 331dot (talk) 11:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that's plagiarism -- and also of questionable accuracy. A more precise statement would be that Florida ranked about 10th highest among U.S. states in number of cases and deaths per capita. That's higher than the "national average" for death and infection rate per capita. Smallchief (talk) 12:20, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

This appears to be WP:COPYVIO, see detail at that link. SPECIFICO talk 13:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

This we learned in the 8th Grade: You must "substantially change" a writing in order for it not to be plagiarism. Paraphrasing is self explanatory, and it is exactly what you see above. Hope this helps.🙂 Lord Milner (talk) 13:25, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

According to Vox, his state had a faster economic recovery though the state's average amount of cases were 3% higher than the rest of the country. The Capitalist forever (talk) 20:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

But was that demonstrably attributable to anything DeSantis did, or due to factors outside his control? (I'm a disinterested observer from another continent, and genuinely don't know.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.210.77 (talk) 15:00, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

References

Hi, I need help to make it live this page here!

Hello, I need help to make it live this page here in Wikipedia, I am trying since it's been year, I am working here at Social Champ and I got all the content from the editorial department to comply the Wikipedia policy, but this page isn't getting live, still it's in draft, can you guys please help me.

Thank you so much in advance to all the contributers. (Draft talk:Social Champ - Social Media Management) Shakeelahmedseo (talk) 14:23, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft deleted and OP blocked. 331dot (talk) 14:26, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

331dot, Draft:Social Champ - Social Media Management (the variant mentioned above) still exists. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 14:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Okay, the one I deleted lacked the hyphenated addition. 331dot (talk) 14:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

NS and Technology

Science fair project 6th grade Diy 41.116.90.192 (talk) 14:47, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:55, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

If you are asking us to help you with a science fair, we should not per wp:HOMEWORK. ✶Mitch199811✶ 15:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Move

File:Battleground_Mobile_India.webp to File:Battlegrounds_Mobile_India.webp
Can someone move a picture I uploaded? This name may change. -MP1999 talk 15:21, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Just a note: Only file movers, administrators, and stewards can move files. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 16:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

How can i report a user?

i found a user advertising in a article talk page, how can i report him? Notrealname1234 (talk) 16:49, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Notrealname1234. If you give us the article title, we can look into it. Cullen328 (talk) 17:05, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Here, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yello_Mobile Notrealname1234 (talk) 17:07, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

i forgot to ping you @Cullen328 Notrealname1234 (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Notrealname1234, I have removed that obvious spam. You can do the same at any time. Cullen328 (talk) 17:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I hope my edit is correct

Title: Tobit and Anna with the Kid

I made occasional minor edits in the past, but not recently, and now the process seems to have changed quite a lot. The paragraph I edited this evening seems to have confused Tobias with his father Tobit in two places. I haven't checked other parts of the article; that's why I am sending you this email. Vic joseph (talk) 17:57, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Vic joseph, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edit looks good to me, but I know nothing about the subject. If anybody thinks it is not an improvement, they will either just revert it, or open a discussion with you; if they do revert it, then you can open a discussion with them, on Talk:Tobit and Anna with the Kid. This is the normal way that Wikipedia works: see WP:BRD. ColinFine (talk) 19:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Declined article despite in-depth, reliable and independent cites

I am newish to Wikipedia and have submitted edits and articles while carefully following the rules on content submissions. One of my submissions has been declined several times despite the fact that I have extensively cited it with in-depth, reliable and independent sources. I am very confused when an editor claims I have not met this requirement. Sources include Politico, NBC News and Food Business News. I feel that I have clearly met the requirements to get it published. Can you help me with this? Here is the link: Draft:Vote Hemp Gothemp (talk) 18:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Gothemp, one of the comments says: Solid sources are provided, but their focus are hemp farming and attendant legislation. Subject is mentioned only tangentially in these; it is not the primary focus of these articles. Try to find articles that talk about Vote Hemp in-depth. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 18:43, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Sources such as Politico mention the org and its focus (lobbying) extensively. Why isn't this sufficient? It clearly is in-depth on the topic, reliable and independent. I see so many articles on this platform with much less cites. Gothemp (talk) 18:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps show us your best three independent, secondary, reliable sources that cover the subject in-depth, and see what editors here have to say. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 18:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Cites #2, 3 and 7 are all good. Gothemp (talk) 19:12, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Cite #2 is directly about the organization and in-depth. I again share my concern that the submission meets the criteria but is getting discounted. Today's rejection took very little time from submission. I am wondering how the reviewer was able to read the cites in depth enough to determine that it was tangental? Other cites discuss the work of the org or cite reports that were created by them. How are all these considered tangental?? Gothemp (talk) 19:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Have you read the comments left by reviewers? They agree that the sources are good, but that the sources only tangentally mention the organization. Sources must go into detail about what is significant or important or influential about this organization. The draft says it was influential, but doesn't say how other than to document its activities.

I'm also wondering if you are associated with this organization. 331dot (talk) 18:44, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Articles such as cite #2 do go in depth on the organization. Gothemp (talk) 18:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Gothemp Please see other stuff exists. It's often not a good idea to cite other similar articles to reference yours as it could be that these other articles are also inappropriate, and simply unaddressed by a volunteer. If you want to use other articles as a model or example, use those classified as good articles. I will again ask if you are associated with this organization. 331dot (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I have worked in the industry but am not directly associated. Gothemp (talk) 19:09, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Alleged reliable source issues

One of my edits got reverted for "RS Issues" but I don't see what's wrong. Ivyaweoff (talk) 19:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. YouTube is not always a reliable source, as anyone can put anything there. Only videos from verified news organizations are generally acceptable. 331dot (talk) 19:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Creation of the Wikipedia page

Guys I'm new and I want to learn. As a suggestion, I would like to publish this page that I created. I added new funds. Thank you with all my heart

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Salvatore_Ruocco&fbclid=IwAR17oYNDF7rp4vcYOFRkluuQ7oWte_5ynPKTAIv_EbfmobqVrvTgsswdMiI Cinefilm (talk) 20:12, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Cinefilm Please read the feedback other editors provided, before submitting it for feedback. Welcome to the Teahouse! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing six million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 20:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Good day Cinefilm,

It might help you to switch to the Visual Editor if you have not already as it simplifies the code of a page to a menu. It will help you change the links as references to inline citations, or footnotes. Grammar is also an issue with the page.

As for the elephant in the room, the article is way to small with too few citations. Citations need to be reliable and there needs to be enough to pass notability requirements. You should be extra carful as you are dealing with a living person. ✶Mitch199811✶ 20:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

i tried to do something about formatting (which i count as grammar, don't @ me), at least

hope it's not as unhelpful as i initially assumed it was cogsan (give me attention) (my deeds) 20:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

PetScan

I am getting incorrect results when I run PetScan. Adding a screenshot here to see if there is something I am typing wrong. Obviously the states and pages are not in a subcategory of Montana. I have had this problem on multiple searches on multiple days, so this isn't an isolated instance. Thanks! Tbennert (talk) 20:50, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Tbennert. "Depth 10" means 10 levels deep of subcategories. A lot can happen there, e.g. Category:Montana, Category:History of Montana, Category:Pre-statehood history of Montana, Category:Washington Territory, Category:Establishments in Washington Territory by year, Category:1854 establishments in Washington Territory, Bellingham, Washington. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Tbennert. A bit of a segue perhaps, but when you create a screenshot of a Wikipedia page, it's not really you're own work that you can claim copyright ownership over per se; it's more of a case of c:COM:2D copying and c:COM:SCREENSHOT. Generally, in such cases, it's better to use a license like c:Template:Wikipedia-screenshot than a regular Creative Commons license because it takes care of all the necessary attribution required by Wikipedia's licensing without asserting you have any copyright ownership over the content of the screenshot. The template's documentation page explain the kind of information needed to use it properly. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:45, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

A user keeps reverting my edit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ale.ch.geor this user keeps reverting my citation edit, even they are correct, i kinda got into a edit war, what do i do? Notrealname1234 (talk) 21:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I found out that the user keeps doing edits that are incorrect Notrealname1234 (talk) 21:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Cog-san Notrealname1234 (talk) 22:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter Notrealname1234 (talk) 23:02, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

what cogsan (give me attention) (my deeds) 01:57, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Notrealname1234, on the article's talk page (or, if a number of articles are involved, then on the talk page of one of these articles), start a discussion. Be clear, polite, precise, and concise. -- Hoary (talk) 02:15, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

move draft to page

Hi I'm new user and I want to learn? as a suggestion, I would like to Draft:Tazi Habiba move intro a page. I had submitted a detailed

Thank you with all my heart Rapmarocedit (talk) 02:16, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@Rapmarocedit: Welcome to the Teahouse. I see you've already submitted the draft. A reviewer will get to it when they do. Otherwise I'm not sure what you mean by move intro a page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Tenryuu, I set up my user page so that I could write an article, need to be approved, and I've traductions the page from fr:Tazi Habiba getting the article wizard to direct me to Draft:Tazi_Habiba

Can someone move reviewer ?

Thanks again! I appreciate the feedback! Rapmarocedit (talk) 03:18, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

There's really nothing to do except wait. It's a backlog, not a queue, and reviewers are more likely to pick drafts they're interested in. I'd suggest working on something else in the meantime, or editing it if you find more reliably sourced information. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer Tenryuu, and I will get to work on something else, could launch in the draft of tazi habiba care to correctly report the reliably sourced all improvements

Thank you in advance for your kindness to this request Rapmarocedit (talk) 03:35, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

I reviewed it, and declined it. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:50, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Anachronist,

thank you very much, understood il new user, you can help me to work by adding all the necessary sources and by formatting it correctly information, and Proofreading my first articles?

I don't know if it's easy to change. Thank you in advance for your comments Rapmarocedit (talk) 04:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Rapmarocedit! Asking to have references added by other volunteers to what you've already written suggests you've made the common error of trying to write an article backwards (perhaps based on your personal knowledge). You should start by finding sufficient published WP:Reliable sources, basing your draft only on what they say, and then adding more details from more sources. It's your job to find the sources in the first place. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.210.77 (talk) 15:20, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Way too many references in this article

Hi, so I came across the article Stephen Yale-Loehr and found too many references crammed into one place (see the career section.) How do I decide which are necessary and which ones are redundant?

Thanks, TrademarkedTarantula (talk) 04:00, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@TrademarkedTarantula: Check out the guidance at Wikipedia:Citation_overkill. Try to find the best sources that support a particular statement and trim the rest. "Example: A source which quotes the subject giving a brief soundbite to a reporter in an article about something or someone else." RudolfRed (talk) 04:11, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Welcoming me on Wikipedia

Hello guys, my name is EnjoyBrowser557 and I joined Wikipedia in order to add information and change content in articles and sometimes respond to discussions and talk pages. Furthermore, I am still learning about the core principles that Wikipedia provided on my homepage. Would you not forget on recent technology in Wiki software? Plus, would you like to give me barnstars or thanks to me for my intelligent work? Just to know that I am new to Wikipedia, so I am still experimenting on wikicoding and understanding on how to use userboxes for my talk page. So, when I am promoted to autoconfirmed user, I will have a chance to create articles and edit semi-protected pages. When it comes to images and photos, I learned how to use a it in proper way and change the sizes and columns of the image. My only languages I speak is English, so in meantime, I would have the ability to write paragraphs and uses sources when editing articles. That would include any field of topic, I would be interested in.

So in conclusion, do you have any advice or further information that you can present to me, so I will improve my knowledge in upcoming days? How would you guide me around Wikipedia and its talk page discussion? Anyways, kudos to those who make replies to me. /EnjoyBrowser557 (talk) (contributiuons) 04:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@enjoybrowser557: you're a bit self-centered, aren't you? anyway, we have an introduction to wikipedia editing here. lettherebedarklight晚安 04:37, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

I am a bit self-centered? Oh wow. At the definitely least, you gave me the introduction to the Wikipedia editing. /EnjoyBrowser557 (talk) (contributiuons) 05:44, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@EnjoyBrowser557 I've placed a few useful links on your Talk Page: the problem with replying here at the Teahouse is that comments rapidly get archived and can be difficult to find later. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Content on Swaraj Shetty

Hi I have created a content (biography) on Swaraj Shetty which is not getting approved due to citation issues even after providing all relevant links and citations. Could you pleease guide me on what could the possible issue? Shivani Sudhir Suvarna (talk) 07:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Poor quality of citations (examples, wikibio.in, and even Wikipedia), lack of citations, poorly described citations. Let's look at one (strangely formatted) section, "Early life". We read:

Shetty was born 30 October 1990 in Mangalore, Dakshina Kannada. He did his schooling from Narayana Guru School Mangalore and later pursued engineering from Hosur. He had always been passionate about acting and had participated in several theatre productions during his college days and has also bagged the title of Mr. Vignyan 2009 from Hyderabad. He had even won awards for his performances, which fueled his desire to pursue a career in the entertainment industry and returned to Mangalore..

None of this is referenced. The reader has no reason to believe any of it. Everything must be referenced. -- Hoary (talk) 07:55, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

article draft declined

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Williamhenryincedo#c-Theroadislong-20230517162200-Paid_editing

My recent article submission gets rejected.

I want to know the reason and how I can improve the content quality of it. Williamhenryincedo (talk) 09:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: User talk:Williamhenryincedo. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 09:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Williamhenryincedo Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft was deleted as an unambiguous advertisement. Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves and what they do. A Wikipedia article about a company must primarily summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. We are not interested in what a company says about itself, or in its routine business activities, Wikipedia wants to know what those completely unaffiliated with the company choose on their own to say about it. This is usually very difficult for someone in your position to do. If you company truly merits a Wikipedia article, an independent editor will eventually take note of the company in independent sources and choose to write about it. Any article that is written will not belong to the company and can potentially contain negative information about the company, should it exist. Please keep this in mind.

If you are editing at the direction of your superiors, please read WP:BOSS and have them read it too. 331dot (talk) 09:16, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Is there a way to clear your alerts and notices

I don't want to see my old alerts and notices, anyway to clear them? Esoptr0n (talk) 09:28, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I don't believe there is a way to clear the alerts- only to mark them as read or unread. I think this is because usually the alerts are not looked at unless you have one. 331dot (talk) 09:30, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Alright, thank you for the information. Esoptr0n (talk) 10:32, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Help with deleting a draft for good

Hi, can you please assist in permanently deleting this draft : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Global_Excellence_Assembly

I think one of the reasons why a published article was removed is because of this misleading draft.

Thanks you in advance Houladinas (talk) 12:13, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@Houladinas: Welcome to the Teahouse. The draft in question has already been deleted, either at your or someone else's request. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:35, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Writing a unbiased article that I'm indirectly paid for?

I'm writing two articles that I'm indirectly paid for. This has been disclosed, in line with Wikipedia Terms of use, on my user page.

The first article is an update of an already published old article about the parking app RingGo. I've addressed the changes on RingGo's Talk page.

The second article is about RingGo's mother company EasyPark Group. EasyPark Group doesn't have an article up on Wikipedia. I tried to create a draft which was later deleted due to my connection with the company, including some feedback that it wasn't unbaised and that some sentences could be interpreted to commercially. It's now rewritten in a straight forward way, just like my RingGo edits and my quesiton is how I move forward to get it published?

Thank you for your help. JMW Editor (talk) 13:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Your re-write on the article talk page is entirely promotional and supported by press releases which are not independent sources.Theroadislong (talk) 13:31, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@JMW Editor: if you wish to write an article on the EasyPark Group (or any other topic you have a conflict of interest in), you must submit your draft for review at WP:AFC; you're not allowed to publish it directly yourself. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:59, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for clarification. JMW Editor (talk) 14:29, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@JMW Editor Your post here has reminded me of the current fuss in the UK about smartphone-only carparks and I have added some well-sourced information about that to the RingGo article. This demonstrates a comment often seen on Teahouse threads that an article about you or your company is not always a good thing. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:58, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Can I let authors know in one click

I want to delete The Daily Campus, so I followed instructions and notified all the authors. Can I do this in one click? It takes too much time. Chances last a finite time (talk) 14:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

There's: {{ping|author1|author2|author3|author4|...up to...|author50}} "notification message" ~~~~

See Template:Ping for documentation. Note that the template has to be in the same edit you sign, e.g., can't be a later addition to a previously signed edit. – .Raven  ^.talk 14:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Chances. Twinkle can make tasks like that one easier. ColinFine (talk) 14:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Chances last a finite time (talk) 14:49, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

How to post information that is confirmable but difficult to source

The location of a radio station's transmitter was given to me by a friend with local knowledge (who asked me to make the update). I was able to confirm it on Google Maps but could not find a static source to use as a reference. The location currently on the web site (that presumably was correct at some point but no longer is) is also unsourced. I tried to update the information but my edit was reverted because it was not referenced. I tried finding the information on the FCC's web site and the radio station's but was not able to.

As noted, the information in the current page is also not referenced. What is the best way to handle this?

In addition, is there a good source for answers to questions like this or generally a guide for people, like me, with experience editing occasionally over the years but not educated about nuances or tools that might make editing easier. Jreiss17 (talk) 14:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Jreiss, and welcome to the Teahouse. If the location cannot be sourced by a reliable soruce (which in this case would not need to be indepedent) then it should be removed. ColinFine (talk) 14:50, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

I am not sure. This may be a WP:BLUESKY situation that doesn't need sourcing. The coordinate location of a radio station is verifiable by anyone with a smartphone GPS who goes to the station to verify its coordinates. ~Anachronist (talk) 14:56, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

How to link two articles in different languages about the same person

Hello everyone, do you know how can these two articles be connected? They are about the same person, but they are not shown as a different language option for each one of them. Any idea how to make that happen? Thanks!

EDIT: Here are the links to each article:

Spanish: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenas_(cantante) English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenas

Piano123piano (talk) 14:57, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, @Piano123piano – it looks like this is an issue on Wikidata. It appears as though es:Athenas (cantante) and Athenas have two separate Wikidata items. To fix this, I have performed a merge of those two items. It should be fixed by now. Thanks for bringing this up! — 3PPYB6 ^{(T / C / L)} — 15:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)