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East Wall and Fermoy protests

Wanted to bring this article to the attention of the WikiProject, as it would probably benefit from more eyes now and as the story evolves. @Bastun @Spleodrach and @Scolaire might be interested? Smirkybec (talk) 11:28, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, but I avoid evolving stories if I can. Scolaire (talk) 11:42, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

No, thanks. Too much emotion involved over the back of others. And earlier experiences with such incidents in counties Galway and Mayo quickly turned into POV-pushing. I stay away. The Banner talk 12:10, 9 December 2022 (UTC) I do have one question: notable or an incident?

Governments of Ireland: organisation of pages

I have a proposal at Talk:Government of the 33rd Dáil#Split by government that pages for each government should be organised by formally separate government from December 1922, rather than Dáil term. I proposed it several years ago, but it fell into the ether. It makes a lot of sense to me, but given where we are now, and the extent of changes required, it makes sense to get a broader discussion there (as prompted by Spleodrach to refer here). Iveagh Gardens (talk) 12:29, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Usage of the Duchas project as a primary source for folklore?

I am writing this here in order to try and get some form of consensus or guidance about how the Duchas Project should be treated in regards to a source for articles. Seeing as the project's scope is limited solely to Irish folklore this seems the most appropriate wiki project to post.

For those unaware Duchas is the name given to the 'National Folklore Collection' as undertaken by 'The Irish Folklore Commission' during the 1930's. The basis for the project was to preserve Irish folk traditions by asking students throughout the country to question their parents and grandparents about any folklore they knew and write it down, these responses were then taken and preserved by the Irish government and can be viewed today at duchas.ie

This project is quite invaluable to scholars of Irish folklore and referred to often when researching specific regions. However for the purposes of wikipedia I am unsure if it should be used as a primary source. What are others opinions, are these stories suitable to be referenced directly or should they only be mentioned when also used in secondary sources? Dubarr18 (talk) 15:26, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Good question! I presume at least in part inspired by my removal of a "legend" from the River Shannon article, which claimed that the river was created by a monster fleeing to the sea when it heard that Saint Patrick was about to arrive in Ireland. I removed the content because - although the story may well have been told to the child in question, who passed it on in good faith - it doesn't even rate as a piseog, a common bit of folklore. I can find no other reference whatsoever to the Shannon only being created in the 5th century that aren't retellings of that one Duchas story. Not surprising, when there are dozens of piseoga, myths and legends about the goddess Sionna and other creation myths!

To answer your original question, the Duchas Project is a great resource and I'm currently really enjoying reading John Creedon's An Irish Folklore Treasury (which recounts many stories taken from the Duchas Project records). I would say it's fine to use as a secondary source; I would be doubtful about using it as a primary source. See WP:PRIMARY. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:52, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Pages for municipal districts

Should municipal districts have their own page? I've suggested at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dundalk Municipal District (2nd nomination) that they should not. Unlike town councils and urban districts before them, municipal districts don't have a separate legal existence from the county-level local authority, but are subsidiary entities of the county council, an area committee, or local organisation of councillors for a specified part of the local government area. However, the question merits further discussion, and there isn't a clear consensus from the discussion in either direction, any contributions you might have would be welcome. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 08:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

I agree that they likely shouldn't, though perhaps some may be independently notable, the majority do not need a page of their own. Xx78900 (talk) 11:41, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion in other project

This discussion may be of interest to members of this project: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#Taoiseach or Taoisigh (Fran Bosh --(talk) 21:51, 8 January 2023 (UTC))

County Template changes

An unregistered editor, Special:Contributions/80.233.63.184, has made a number of unsourced changes to Irish County templates today. Is there concensus on what population constitutes a village or town? Keomike (talk) 17:54, 12 January 2023 (UTC)