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== User:FDLeyda == |
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[[User:FDLeyda]] appears to have passed on in September 2019 according to [https://carechapel.com/obituary/frank-drew-leyda/ online] [https://www.morningjournalnews.com/obituaries/2019/09/frank-d-drew-leyda/ obituaries]. Could someone make he relevant notices etc? I've read the guidelines but I'm not sure how to do many of the things it suggests. Thank you! [[User:MarchOfTheGreyhounds|MarchOfTheGreyhounds]] ([[User talk:MarchOfTheGreyhounds|talk]]) 11:13, 30 June 2022 (UTC) |
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== "Edge case" question == |
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Say that [[User:Example]] dies. [[User:Example2|User:Example's brother]] states that yes, Example is dead, but then says he now assumes responsibility of the [[User:Example]] account. What happens in this case? Is the account listed at Category:Deceased Wikipedians or is a note placed on the user page about the situation? [[Special:Contributions/172.112.210.32|172.112.210.32]] ([[User talk:172.112.210.32|talk]]) 03:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:That sounds like a [[WP:COMPACC|compromised account]]. How do we even know Example is dead? Wikipedia accounts are meant to be one person each; no sharing or passing on a registered account. A block would be in order. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> 10:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::{{re|Chris troutman}} In general a lock would be more desirable as it would prevent the account being used on ''any'' project by anyone. But I could be getting too "in the weeds" here. [[User:TheSandDoctor|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">The</span><span style="color:#009933; font-weight:bold;">SandDoctor</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TheSandDoctor|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:::Okay, might need to clarify. In this case [[User:Example|User:Example's brother]] would ideally have already announced prior to [[User:Example]]'s death that he and Example were related. Also, would it still be any different if Example's brother did not have an account, or if Example stated his Wikipedia account would be put into the hands of Example's brother in their will along with that? [[Special:Contributions/172.112.210.32|172.112.210.32]] ([[User talk:172.112.210.32|talk]]) 02:01, 16 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:::: There is no "responsibility" for the account of another individual. If Example's brother wishes to edit Wikipedia, he can easily create his own account. We do not allow editors to trade on the reputation of their friends or family members. As [[WP:SHAREDACCOUNT]] makes clear, shared accounts can only exist with the permission of the WMF, and only for non-editing purposes. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 02:10, 16 July 2022 (UTC) |
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==Anthony Appleyard== |
==Anthony Appleyard== |
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Anthony Appleyard
In December 2021, user:Anthony Appleyard posted that they had been in hospital. A person of this name died in Manchester on 28 February 2022. Anthony has not edited Wikipedia since 13 February 2022. As Anthony was especially diligent and steadfast, it seems sadly likely that they are deceased. Perhaps some experienced editor from that region such as user:Boing! said Zebedee can confirm or comment on this. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:58, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- It seems that his last edits on Wikipedia were also his last edits on any wiki. I have left a note on his talk page and sent an email, to be sure. I wonder if a Checkuser can confirm that he was located in Manchester. I seem to recall knowing that he was, but I don't see where he said this. BD2412 T 03:39, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- A loss if true. A CU will not be able to confirm as the information is stale, but I am sure there are individuals who know him personally who might be able to verify. That being said, as there is no direct connection in that link to our Anthony Appleyard, I have suppressed the URL
and specific locationuntil it can be verified (though if it cannot be definitively verified, the original post is still likely to be accurate, assuming AA used his own name to edit). Primefac (talk) 05:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)- Sad news indeed. If it's helpful, Primefac, Anthony Appleyard stated on-wiki a while back that he lived in Manchester. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I figured someone would know. I've kept the link hidden but re-added the original text. Primefac (talk) 06:43, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Absent a response to my queries, I think that gives us probable cause to assume the worst. BD2412 T 07:08, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- He attended the eighth Manchester meetup on 25th June 2011. – wbm1058 (talk) 11:46, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
A good time and interesting discussion was had by all. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:37, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Appears that the sixth Manchester meetup on 5 September 2009 was the first meetup he attended. RexxS posted a picture of three attendees. – wbm1058 (talk) 12:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- He also attended the seventh Manchester meetup on 24th April 2011. Interesting that he said he was teetotal; these early meetups don't seem to have been the alcohol-drenched affairs that later meetups in the area have a reputation for. – wbm1058 (talk) 13:09, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- He attended the eighth Manchester meetup on 25th June 2011. – wbm1058 (talk) 11:46, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Absent a response to my queries, I think that gives us probable cause to assume the worst. BD2412 T 07:08, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I figured someone would know. I've kept the link hidden but re-added the original text. Primefac (talk) 06:43, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sad news indeed. If it's helpful, Primefac, Anthony Appleyard stated on-wiki a while back that he lived in Manchester. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- A loss if true. A CU will not be able to confirm as the information is stale, but I am sure there are individuals who know him personally who might be able to verify. That being said, as there is no direct connection in that link to our Anthony Appleyard, I have suppressed the URL
- I am increasingly convinced that this post is accurate, so I have performed all of the necessary administrative steps (rights removal and userpage protection). Primefac (talk) 12:40, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Primefac Do you want to give it some more time or should we request the account be locked as per standard procedure? TheSandDoctor Talk 03:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think, given the information we learnt including the bit Graham87 pointed out and myself pointing out an Anthony Appleyard did pass away on 28 February with verification from The Gazette, it is very likely glock is needed as with Ronhjones et all. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 19:21, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Iggy the Swan: Ahem, "glock"? BD2412 T 19:58, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Globally locked is what I mean (same as "locked as per standard procedure". I'm sorry for any confusion especially as glock is something else! Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:02, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. I thought you might have meant blocked. Perhaps we as a project should adopt g-lock as a usage for clarity. BD2412 T 21:14, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Agree. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:20, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. I thought you might have meant blocked. Perhaps we as a project should adopt g-lock as a usage for clarity. BD2412 T 21:14, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Globally locked is what I mean (same as "locked as per standard procedure". I'm sorry for any confusion especially as glock is something else! Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:02, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- There was a link to The Gazette in my original post. This was oversighted by Primefac so I'm not sure if this is still supposed to be secret. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Direct links to private individuals are always more problematic than general statements. Primefac (talk) 11:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, I have provided that link without realising that was the one which was surpressed. I can still see it on Anthony's talk page. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 11:18, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Direct links to private individuals are always more problematic than general statements. Primefac (talk) 11:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Iggy the Swan: Ahem, "glock"? BD2412 T 19:58, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think, given the information we learnt including the bit Graham87 pointed out and myself pointing out an Anthony Appleyard did pass away on 28 February with verification from The Gazette, it is very likely glock is needed as with Ronhjones et all. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 19:21, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Primefac Do you want to give it some more time or should we request the account be locked as per standard procedure? TheSandDoctor Talk 03:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Condolences should be left at his talk page. --Izno (talk) 20:48, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- I've added a cropped photo, derived from the Manchester meetup photos above. Suaimhneas síoraí air - Alison talk 21:59, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Speaking of RexxS: that person has not edited any Wikimedia sites since late February 2021 and on the talk page, there are people who hope he will come back to edit. There's no indication on if that user has retired or taken a wikibreak etc.. His real name can be found from Commons via a category where there is the photo where the cropped version is found here in this section. At present I can't seem to find any clues from external links as to what really happened to RexxS but I would think someone would have told the community if RexxS is currently a deceased Wikimedian, as in the case of PiZero. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 11:05, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Iggy the Swan - I don’t believe RexxS is remotely deceased - and I certainly hope not! But he has left Wikipedia, which is a very great shame. KJP1 (talk) 16:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it's my understanding that RexxS has left the project although whether this is permanent exit or temporary, we don't know. Liz Read! Talk! 17:44, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Seems like here may be the answer about RexxS and I do think he's still around. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 15:18, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it's my understanding that RexxS has left the project although whether this is permanent exit or temporary, we don't know. Liz Read! Talk! 17:44, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Doug attended last year's online AGM for Wikimedia UK as an outgoing trustee but did not speak. That was on 10 July 2021. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- I recently spoke to Doug (aka RexxS) by email. He's well, and sends his condolences to Anthony's friends and family. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:31, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Emana
Emana left us 13 years ago in 2009. MMessine19 (talk) 10:15, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think you're right given the obituary that I have read on Wikipedia and the final edit relates to the skills of Japanese. Probably right to use the tag on the user page. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:01, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- But yesterday, Beeblebrox vandalized the page for Emana. LissajousCurve (talk) 08:56, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- And the evidence is right here LissajousCurve (talk) 23:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- @LissajousCurve: That sounds like something you should talk to Beeblebrox about. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 01:31, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- @LissajousCurve and Beeblebrox: If what I can see is what I think it is, Beeblebrox removed editor posting on Emana's user page, that should have been on her talk page. The user page is generally only edited by that user, while the talk page is the place for all the notes anyone cares to leave. If that's what happened, Beeblebrox was more likely trying to protect the person's user page. — Maile (talk) 01:50, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- @LissajousCurve: That sounds like something you should talk to Beeblebrox about. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 01:31, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- And the evidence is right here LissajousCurve (talk) 23:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- But yesterday, Beeblebrox vandalized the page for Emana. LissajousCurve (talk) 08:56, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Emana/Obituary. And @LissajousCurve:, maybe take the time to learn what vandalism is and try to assume good faith before leveling such accusations next time. --Beeblebrox (talk) 02:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Darxus
Darxus is no longer with us. I'm not really sure of the method of confirming this or how to deal with his account. I don't think his family put out an official obituary, but his father memorialized this on his facebook page in publicly viewable posts. https://www.facebook.com/jerry.barwell You can confirm this is him by cross-referencing with images of him on his webpage chaosreigns which is noted on his talk page via archive.org, it looks like his website finally went down. https://web.archive.org/web/20210623111419/http://www.chaosreigns.com/ Centerone (talk) 04:12, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Are you sure? The photo at https://twitter.com/DarxusC looks not dissimilar to the one on Barwell's Facebook, but his LiveJournal lists a different high school than the Facebook profile does, and also doesn't list the collegiate education mentioned on Facebook. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 04:39, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oh I see, it's the father's Facebook. I'm still not sure if a photo-match only is enough, though. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 04:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Seems possible based on the comment on the post what I think Centerone was referring to and the picture on Twitter implys he could be the same person. Has anyone asked the owner of the linked profile though - that method was used to confirm that in April 2019 that Ronhjones suddenly passed away by a one-to-one chat with one of the Wikipedia users and Ron's Facebook friend. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 09:51, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- I've looked further. Sadly, I think Centerone is correct:
- There's a post here from screenname Darxus, using the surname Barwell.
- Nathan Barwell's LinkedIn, using a profile pic that was featured in the Facebook posts, gives location Pelham, New Hampshire, same as https://darxus.livejournal.com/profile
- "Rethinking OpenPGP PKI and OpenPGP Public Keyserver" lists "Nathan Barwell" as an author in its metadata (if that link is opened while logged-out to academia.edu, but not while logged-in... weird). The paper doesn't mention any Barwell but does cite Darxus' website.
- I don't see a need to bother anyone grieving. I'll protect the userpage and notify the stewards. Can someone put together a brief entry? Per a Facebook comment, looks like he died in mid-Decemeber 2021. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 10:31, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Done - in the 2021 list of entries. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 10:46, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well, y'all have already confirmed and taken care of it. Just for the record, for anybody curious or wanting to be more sure, I just found the following post here which confirms the stuff you guys were talking about and gives more details. Centerone (talk) 23:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Done - in the 2021 list of entries. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 10:46, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- I've looked further. Sadly, I think Centerone is correct:
- Seems possible based on the comment on the post what I think Centerone was referring to and the picture on Twitter implys he could be the same person. Has anyone asked the owner of the linked profile though - that method was used to confirm that in April 2019 that Ronhjones suddenly passed away by a one-to-one chat with one of the Wikipedia users and Ron's Facebook friend. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 09:51, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oh I see, it's the father's Facebook. I'm still not sure if a photo-match only is enough, though. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 04:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Not listed in year
I just found out that Ahsoous isn’t listed in 2020 despite him having an English language user page LissajousCurve (talk) 18:35, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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BeenAroundAWhile
User:BeenAroundAWhile made over 100,000 edits and earlier in the year Jimbo personally congratulated him on reaching this milestone. He passed away per edits by his family at his userpage. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 11:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)