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Deletion in Atomic Theory

I have had to "undo" your deletion. Please do not simply delete referenced content without an explanation -- it appears from this talk that you've been asked previously to refrain from doing that. Thank you. Croessus the king of lydia (talk) 00:54, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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Scorpion and frog

The article definitely needed curating, but that is not the same as acting as its custodian. The following past edits are particularly questionable:

1. your deletions of properly referenced statements,
2. your unreferenced original research,
3. your additions of off-topic information gleaned from other WP articles.

The innumerable individual changes give the impression of editorial incompetence; the invitation to recommend the article for Good Article status is uncalled for and deluded. I am also unhappy at your deletion of your talk page history, rather than archiving it.

Rather than bringing the matter up on the Talk page, or inviting Admin comment, I decided to come here first. Sweetpool50 (talk) 15:53, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

@Sweetpool50: You could at least tell me whether I've improved anything. Kurzon (talk) 17:02, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

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Deletion discussion about B-bar (Morse code)

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@The Rambling Man: A lot of your point seemed strangely petty. Like nitpicking. You didn't find any deep issues with the article. 15:04, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Bascinet

Please do not remove illustrations of items that are directly referenced in the text. You have done this twice, removing the only illustration of a klappvisor, and more recently the only illustration of a fixed bavier and an unattached plate gorget. Are some images less than ideal? yes, but we are limited by what is available on Wikimedia. In covering a subject with many esoteric terms and little-known physical aspects, relevant coverage in illustrations is a high priority. Urselius (talk) 09:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Military wargaming

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Pro wrestling

Hi. I have seen your recents edition in the article. First, I think the terms aren't correct. As other user told you, the factual term is staged or scripted. Mock combater, parody... aren't neutral, looks like a anti-pro wrestling article.

Also, sources. The first section is sourced. Not described as mock combat, but performance art instead. I know, pro wrestling it's several things: its a theatre, it's a scripted fight, a choreogaphy. But your editions hasn't sources to support your claims. I included the sources and some parts of your editions, I think the current is a good approach. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:09, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@HHH Pedrigree: Uh, is English your first language? Because your page makes me think you're Spanish. Mock combat and parody ARE neutral terms. I don't know where you got the idea that they are biased. Methinks you don't know English so well. Kurzon (talk) 19:24, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi. No, English isn't my first language. As I said, User MPJ-DK told ""mock" is not neutral - staged is factual", which it's true. Most sources call wrestling staged or scripted. Sources in the lead say "performance". Also, Parody has negative connotations. Wikipedia says "is a work which is created to imitate, make fun of or comment on an original work." I prefer "pro wrestlers perform" or "pro wrestlers have characters", which is more neutral. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@HHH Pedrigree: And how is "parody" offensive? This is all theater, and not meant to be taken seriously. Kurzon (talk) 05:57, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:WATU

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"br" tags

Please don't "fix" br tags. <br>, <br />, and <br/> all work exactly the same, so all you're doing is cluttering up people's watchlists. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: It's about the color coding in the editor. Kurzon (talk) 04:09, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

That's not a sufficient reason to clutter up my watchlist, and those of other editors, with changes that are unnecessary but have to be checked out. Please stop. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:43, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: I have a right to make improvements to Wikipedia. Learn to live with it. Kurzon (talk) 06:50, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

I absolutely LOVE your reverted comment: "Oh piss off you selfish twit." So for your singular convenience, you want to inconvenience countless other Wikipedia editors who have to check your edits changing "br" tags. Who, precisely, is being "selfish" here? Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:52, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: Well, perhaps I was being too harsh, but I was not trying to inconvenience anyone. On the contrary, I was trying to make things more convenient for anyone who uses color-coding in the editor. Kurzon (talk) 14:07, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of referenced information

Hi there. With this edit you deletion specifically referenced information without providing any explanation. Please don't do that, you know you shouldn't be deleting referenced info. There is a talk item on the talk page about it. It's clear you disagree with this statement for some reason, though it's been in the article for many years and is now very clearly referenced. Please take to the talk page if you have any issues on this, though not sure why you would. Canterbury Tail talk 10:43, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@Canterbury Tail: Fine, have it your way, I'll leave it as it is. Maybe I can get in touch with Rick Priestley again and he could clear some things up. It's not a big deal anyway. Kurzon (talk) 10:49, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Well this is Wikipedia, WP:VERIFIABILITY. We have references that state that it's based on WFB, and the rules (the game portion) are very clearly based on WFB (and considering Priestly wrote both of them...). If you have references to the contrary then that's fair, but we'd need references. Canterbury Tail talk 11:36, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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# John Dalton in Atomic Theory Article

Can you give the proper reference for the things that you type such as example of dalton experiment?Agus Damanik (talk) 02:51, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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Please, can you search about the political ideas of those people during the reigns of Alexandre II, Alexandre III, and Nicholas II, and edit it? Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.47.68.104 (talk) 12:35, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Keys to the White House

Special:Diff/1005889053 Take a look at this IPs edit. I think they are vandalizing but you know the article better than I Slywriter (talk) 23:26, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hello Kurzon,

I just had to revert an edit of yours to the article The Scorpion and the Frog (diff). You removed "written in Sanskrit" and put quotation marks in a blockquote template. The latter is discouraged by the Manual of Style, and for the former, you didn't provide an edit summary explaining why you removed that text. In future, I recommend mentioning in edit summaries your rationale for removing text or other article material. This will mean you won't get reverted by someone who didn't understand why you did it, as was the case here. Please feel free to edit the page again to re-remove the text with an edit summary explaining your rationale. Thanks, DesertPipeline (talk) 07:23, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

I see you removed the text again without providing an edit summary. Please could you at least explain here? Thank you, DesertPipeline (talk) 12:28, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

@DesertPipeline: It didn't seem important. Kurzon (talk) 13:46, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't know much about this subject myself, so I think the best idea would be to ask on the talk page for the article whether or not it is important. I'd also advise leaving the text in the article until it can be determined whether or not it is actually important. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 03:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@DesertPipeline: I'm the one who put that text there in the first place. I changed my mind. I decided that the language of the Panchatantra isn't important in this context, just the location. If I talk about this on the Talk page I guarantee nobody will chime in because I am the only editor working on this article. Kurzon (talk) 06:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay, that's fair. In future though, please do consider leaving edit summaries, especially when removing article material – it usually makes the process of improving Wikipedia go more smoothly :) DesertPipeline (talk) 07:33, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

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Please use edit summaries

Hi Kurzon, I recently reverted an edit you made at Joseph Stalin in which you removed content without explanation. I want to add my voice to the others I see above in asking that you please use edit summaries, especially when removing content from articles. Thanks, Firefangledfeathers (talk) 16:17, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

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Stop uploading copyrighted images that you do not own the copyright to onto Wikipedia. A load were just deleted for copyright violations, and you literally just re-uploaded them. They're being deleted again. Do NOT upload images that you do not own copyright to to Wikipedia, and once something has been deleted for blatant copyright violation do not reupload it again. Just because you found an image on the internet doesn't mean it isn't covered by copyright. Canterbury Tail talk 17:27, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

And note, even if GW says they don't consider photos of their models to be copyright violations, you're still uploading photos taking by other people and they own the individual copyrights to those photographs (not the models) and its those copyrights that you're violating by uploading these random photos from the internet, not GWs. Canterbury Tail talk 17:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

@Canterbury Tail: I totally asked these guys for permission. It's not my fault if they did not send confirmation emails to OTRS! Kurzon (talk) 18:10, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

You're uploading them with a statement of it being your own work, which they clearly aren't. If they have given permission then great, but until that's sorted you can't keep uploading images deleted for copyvios. Canterbury Tail talk 18:15, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Scorpion + Frog

I owe you a longer explanation on why I reverted you recently at this article. I thought you were jumping the gun. We've appealed for input and should wait a reasonable time for comments. If none come within (say) a month, then the next move would be to widen the appeal.

Meanwhile, I've been looking at allied fables. You're right about the possible connection with The Frog and the Turtle. In the 18th century translation of the whole Pilpay/Bidpai work (and we're looking principally for English language connections) the context in which the fable is told is concerned with ingratitude for benefits. And Ashliman groups the Bidpai story with Aesopic analogues. All three of those cited, however, have a moral suggesting that providential justice is at work, which is very different from the moral drawn from the scorpion and the frog. So even though there is an admitted connection between these stories, the conclusion drawn from them can be different.

As I said before, I was impressed by the fact that no less than three editors since 2010 have seen an additional connection with the older Aramaic fable of the scorpion leaving the ferrying frog unharmed. I've now found a Jewish source that does make a connection with the Aesopic story. Unfortunately, the Google Books pages break off just where the author is about to make the connection plainer. If you could find a copy of the book and look it up, that would be useful. The story is obviously concerned with Divine justice, which allows a suspension of natural law (the scorpion abstains from stinging the frog) when a higher aim (the punishment of an unjust man) is in view.

What we have, then, is a series of disconnections. Aesop/Bidpai have a scorpion and different creatures and are concerned with punishment of ingratitude. Their stories are bracketed on either side with reinterpretations of a frog and scorpion partnership coloured by very different cultures. Orson Welles tells the story cynically, in a 20th century atheistic context; Middle Eastern Jews, with a mindset (held in common with Islam) that nothing happens outside the Divine purpose, use the story in the context of what Ashliman calls "unnatural partnerships".

Since we now have a source that sees some connection between the stories (Welles' apart), I hope you'll agree that it would be a good idea to keep mention of the Jewish story in the article but not add comment (or my new source) while we wait to see if we can get any further comment. Sweetpool50 (talk) 13:28, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

I have a hunch that if you searched some database of old folk tales, you will find a lot of hits for frogs and scorpions, and the fables will be of all kinds of things. Best to stick to the really strong connections. Kurzon (talk) 09:48, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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