User talk:Alessandro57

A goat for you!

Hi Alessandro I’m sending this goat to you because I never realized how many articles you have created that I read daily like Kasim Aga Mosque or cistern of Aspar. So keep on editing.

Carthago814 (talk) 16:05, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Via Giulia

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Precious anniversary

Precious

One year!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Your Reversion of My Edit

I added the Turkish name of Kastellorizo in the introduction part of the article but you removed it and said it belonged to the "names" section. Could you explain why you think it "only" belongs there? Because in articles about the Turkish islands in the Aegean(Gökçeada/Bozcaada), the Greek names of the islands are mentioned both in the names sections and the introduction parts. So if it's not a problem then, it shouldn't be a problem when it comes to the Turkish names. I believe you should either undo your reversion or remove the Greek names from the introduction parts of the articles about the Turkish Aegean islands. I love the Greek names of the Turkish islands, I think they prove how culturally close and intertwined we are with the Greeks so please choose the former and undo your reversion. Thank you. Konyevi (talk) 21:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Dear @Konyevi:, thanks for your nice message. The reason for my revert is that the consensus for Kastellorizo is to put the (many) different names of the island in a dedicate section. This decision is based on this guideline. If you will read it, you will see that one can put the alternative names after the official ones in parenthesis (the way you suggest) or, alternatively, in a dedicated section, and that this is recommended in the case of more than three names (this is the case for Kastellorizo). I don't know how many names are notable for the Turkish Aegean islands, but you can follow (maybe after opening a thread on the talk page of the article) this way too. Generally speaking, adding Turkish names to Greek islands is a quite thorny issue, but if there is a compelling reason (demographic, like a Turkish minority still living on the island, historical or geographical, i.e., proximity to the Anatolian coast) adding the Turkish name is accepted (although you can always expect that sometime someone try to cancel it). Being neither Turk nor Greek, I try to remain neutral in this issue. Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 11:43, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Should Wikipedia be censored?

Ciao Alessandro. You might be interested in following Talk:Eritrea - the two bottom talk page sections (currently); and Talk:Eritrean Defence Forces#Tigray conflict. I get the impression that these are also a case of censorship, including one item which just doesn't make sense: why refuse to NPOV and properly (rather than bare-url) reference the population estimate of a country? Boud (talk) 15:10, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

A notice about discretionary sanctions for the Horn of Africa

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Doug Weller talk 16:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Rachele was Mussolini's step-sister.

It is a fact that Rachele Mussolini (nee Guidi) was Mussolini's step-sister. This is a widely accepted fact as established in academic biographies of Mussolini. See, for example, Bosworth, Richard JB. Mussolini. Bloomsbury Publishing, 2014. That is, for a scholar of Mussolini, it was considered a "constructive" addition to the biography. Kindly note that it was evidently considered "constructive" to mention on the Benito Mussolini wiki page that he married "fellow countrywoman". That is a detail of very low (and obvious for any reader) value; the fact that he married his step-sister is of considerably higher value. Where scholarly usage insufficient, kindly note, also, that the wiki page of one Adolf Hitler, mentions that he was rumored to have romantic relationsh with his neice. I assume, therefore that it is your personal opinion of what constitutes "constructive". Apparently, what you consider "constructive" is not supported by authroitative scholarship or other wiki pages. Kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.108.58 (talk) 12:48, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

No, it is not "a fact". Rachele Guidi could have been the step-sister of Mussolini. Her mother Anna Lombardi, before marrying the farmer of a large estate, Agostino Guidi, was in fact engaged to Alessandro Mussolini, a friend of Andrea Costa and known as a 'subversive', who preferred to her the schoolteacher Rosa Maltoni. This is what is known today. Unfortunately I don't have Bosworth's biography, but I have read de Felice's biography, which is the definitive work on Mussolini, and there is no such thing written. If Bosworth has new facts (facts, not gossip) on this we can include it, but you should quote the passage where he states this, and the relevant pages. Alex2006 (talk) 14:19, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Caro Alessandro, thank you for the prompt and courteous reply. Having read your reply, I suspect that perhaps there is a subtle but important misunderstanding between "step-sister" and "half-sister". (To my understanding, in Italian, the term "sorellastra" is used for both, no?) In Enlgish, "half-sister" means that there is one blood-relative parent in common. A "step-sister" does not share a biological parent. A "step" relationship is created when a parent of each enter into a romantic relationship or one based on cohabitation. I hope that is the cause of the confusion (as I suspect from your response, which addresses a situation of possible half-sibling status based on rumor). I am not suggesting that she was Benito's "half-sister". I am stating the commonly known fact that they were "step-siblings" as is construed and accepted in the Enlgish language. Otherwise, the facts remain as presented: Rachele moved in with the Mussolini family in 1910 (after the death of her father in 1902 and the death of Benito's mother in 1905). Her mother was Alessandro's cohabitating lover (or common law wife) at this point. As such, when she became Benito's wife, she was already his step-sister. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.108.58 (talk) 19:11, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Of course, I would be more than happy to draft different language for the edit, to take into account the fine nuances that have been highlighted by this exchange. Warm regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.108.58 (talk) 00:52, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Here is the Reference, for your consideration: R.J.B. Bosworth, Mussolini (Oxford UP, 2002). [available as an ebook online as well] :

"Benito and Rachele began cohabiting in early 1910; she must have fallen pregnant at much the same time. Some months before, Mussolini had made her his 'intended', writing properly that he was worried about her moral status while she resided with his father and her mother at the Bersagliere inn." (p 74-75) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.108.58 (talk) 19:52, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh-oh... now I understand, sorry! The problem is that step-sister is translated as sorellastra, but that's wrong! In Italian, a "sorellastra" has a biological parent in common with the person in question, and this was not the case. The problem remains though: in fact Benito's father and Rachele's mother were lovers, not married. And according to the Merrian-Webster a step-sister is "a daughter of one's stepparent by a former partner", where a stepparent is "the wife or husband of one's parent when distinct from one's natural or legal mother or father". What you affirm would have been true if the two had been married, but they were not. Or am I wrong again with my Italo-English? ;-) Alex2006 (talk) 16:09, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Alessandro, before continuing, please let me underscore my sincere appreciation to your dedication to the issue, and the wiki framework for dispute resolution. If you were at all slighted by a previous comment or tone of my intial comment, please accept my apologies. I am glad we have identified the confusion over "sorellastra". Now, for "marriage". Merriam-Webster does inlcude in its definition of step-siblings the concept of "marriage", as you noted. However, the same source notes in the definition for "marriage" that the definition is not a matter for dictionaries to define (see definition 1.a.). This is particularly important in light of same-sex/ same-gendered marriage. While I recognize that this is not the case here, it is important to keep in mind in terms of wiki precedence. More importantly (I hope you will agree), is the due consideration of the practice of "common law" or "de facto" marriage based on mutual recognition or cohabitation. MWD defines "common law marriage" as: "2: the cohabitation of a couple even when it does not constitute a legal marriage". [In some US jurisdictions, the establishment of marriage-based legal rights may even be applied by the courts to common law relationships without the consent of the parties!] This certainly describes the relationship of their parents as a form of marriage. (While I am aware that wiki is not a viable source, the wiktionary definition of step-sibling is superior as it encompasses the definitions in a more clear manner and is better suited for modern usages accross cultural barriers, IMHO.) As such, they were step-siblings through (common-law) marriage as defined in the English language as represented in your source. I look forward to the resolution of this matter so that we may move on to more interesting wiki talks about Roman history, and the like. Perhaps move from a rather Byzantine conversation to a Turkish delight? ;D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.108.58 (talk) 00:49, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I messed up an edit (entering text in the wrong place in our conversation. I just wanted to add that I would be more than happy to propose new language for the edit here, so that we can collaborate on an edit that incorporates the nuances identified in this conversation, and in light of the definitions provided. Warm regads, and thank you for the unbiased, intellectual exercise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.108.58 (talk) 01:04, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. However, as I am not a native English speaker, and I don't know the common law, I think the best thing to do is to reopen the request and ask for the opinion of Wikipedian friends whose mother language is English. I will copy our conversation here there. However, there is one thing that puzzles me: Mussolini's father and Guidi's mother did not really live more uxorio. Mussolini met Rachele when he was substituting his mother at the primary schools as a teacher, then he didn't see her anymore for nine years, while she was working as a service woman (like his mother) in Forli', and he casually met her again in the trattoria where she worked and where, in a room upstairs, Mussolini's father had just moved in with her mother. There was no family relationship between them, so to call her (step-)sister seems inappropriate. Unfortunately, the Anglo-Saxon sources, for obvious reasons, do not reach the almost maniacal degree of precision of the Italian ones with regard to Mussolini's life (consider that the first volume of de Felice's "Il rivoluzionario", which covers Mussolini's life from his birth to 1920, is longer than Bosworth's entire work), so it is easy to make mistakes. Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 11:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Dear Alessandro, I am fine with moving forward in whatever way you prefer. I recognize that a more nuanced mention is deserving, as is a culturally relevant consideration of what might be considered "mistakes". Hopefully we can do this collectively. Kindly let me know where that conversation will take place. I very much look forward to reading Felice's seminal biography. Thank you again for your close attention to this thread. Very warm regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.108.58 (talk) 13:55, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

You can comment on your original edit request. I asked a fellow Wikipedian who knows the English language much better than I do (not difficult :-)) to comment on your request. Regarding De Felice, I think that unfortunately it has never been translated into English: 6000 pages are a lot, and reading his work requires a large investment of time. anyway, if you know Italian and are passionate of this period, is a great reading! He spent 30 years researching in the Italian archives (above all the ACS) or interviewing important fascist and non fascist people who were still alive at that time. The result is amazing. Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 17:12, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Borgo Santo Spirito

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—valereee (talk) 00:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Modest flowers

Thank you for what you said on Yoninah's talk, - see also Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2021-03-28/Obituary! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Marcello Petacci

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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Via Giulia

Thank you so much for your great article. I am translating it in French. I love Italy where I go often (I am French and I live in France). I am busy on Renaissance in Italy for Wikipedia. Have a nice day.--Adonia60 (talk) 06:17, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer! I translated the articles about Borgo Nuovo and Borgo Vecchio few days ago. They are very interesting and it is a nice way to travel when you cannot go abroad because of the pandemia. I noticed few articles to translate. The French Wikipedia is very poor on these topics. Rome is a fantastic city I visited many times. Adonia60 (talk) 16:36, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Cyprus

I saw your message on Doug's talk page about the Cyprus moves. I don't know if he has any particular interest in the topic, but it seemed like a pretty severe breach of WP:NPOV so I went ahead and reverted them all. Thanks for flagging it up. If you have time to look at the user's other contributions it would be helpful... they have also been making some dubious changes to the article content. – Joe (talk) 09:59, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Temple of Jupiter Apenninus

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of SS3 Flaminia

Hello Alessandro57,

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– Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:48, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

indice di ponderazione

I asked this many months ago, but never got back to you to follow up. I still did not understand your explanation for the calculation of the indice di ponderazione in metropolitan cities for elections. Specifically, I offered this table (https://cittametropolitana.ve.it/sites/default/files/news/Tabella%20indice%20ponderato_10072015.pdf) for you to use as an example, but you used an entire other example. Can you explain more clearly using the table provided? Thank you. --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:23, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind. I think I may finally understand a bit better. Using the example I have posted above, Fascia D is 6.071% points above the 35% threshold to start out. Then you reweight everything to 100% - 41.071% = 58.929%; to find the new redistributed  % per fascia, let's say you take Fascia C. You divided 8.705% into the new weight of 58.929% to get .14772 (14.772%), though I'm not sure what this number represents. The next step I'm not exactly sure what's being calculated but you take the .14772 and multiply it by the portion that overhung the original 35% which was 6.071%; that gets you 0.8966, which you then add to the original % per fascia (8.705) to get 9.602%. I get everything after that, but what I'm still not understanding is what the figures we get in each of these 4 steps are. --Criticalthinker (talk) 09:53, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

I would like you to explain the Redistribuzione eccedenz process, though, so I know what each value is doing the steps. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:24, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mondeghili

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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Alfredo pasta

As you probably know Alfredo pasta is totally unknown in Italy, and you'll never find a restaurant who makes it. A similar dish, known as "pasta al burro" is the only similar thing you can find in Italy. So it is not Italian, rather an Italian-American dish. If it is in the "Cuisine of Italy" template we can add Hawaiian pizza as well... --79.19.219.156 (talk) 17:22, 21 November 2021 (UTC) Why is it vandalism? I'm trying to have a normal, calm discussion. Just explain why am I wrong...--79.19.219.156 (talk) 17:36, 21 November 2021 (UTC)