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Requested move 8 November 2021

It has been proposed in this section that October 2021 nor'easter be renamed and moved to October 2021 Nor'easter.

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Tropical Storm Wanda (2021) → October 2021 Nor'easter – Wanda is being given WP:UNDUE weight here. The nor'easter precursor caused the entire impact and is by far the most significant aspect of the system's existence. For the sake of neutrality, we should make the title reflect what's most important (the nor'easter and its impact) and shift the article away from a tropical cyclone format. Wanda still needs mention, but it shouldn't be dominating this entire article when the nor'easter is significantly more important. Noah^Talk 04:20, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – How about following the model of the 1991 Perfect Storm? Is that sorta what you are looking for? United States Man (talk) 05:01, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking more along the lines of Columbus Day Storm of 1962 where we can incorporate additional components into the infobox such as type and power losses. Noah^Talk 05:07, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support, despite the fact that Wanda is the only official name gives me pause, the storm is primarily known for its impacts as a non-tropical cyclone, so I see the objection with the current title. New content should be added to the MH describing its non-tropical phase, though since this was the same overall system, the current content related to Wanda is mostly fine. Since this system was both tropical and non-tropical, classifying this under WPTC and non-trop is probably the way to go as well. Ambivalent on what infobox should be used. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
Very strong oppose It was called Wanda. 🐔 Chicdat ^{Bawk to me!} 11:25, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose. If the system is already named it does not need to be changed. Tropical storm Wanda is fine as it is. IBlazeCat (talk) 12:16, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strong opposeThe system was given the name Wanda and it is not needed to be moved. We could separate the pages but i don't find that needed at this time or we could split its history as section being its Nor'Easter portion of its life and the other being its subtropical transition and then eventual demise HavocPlayz (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:22, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Does it not matter that the news agencies and people affected by the storm do not associate the name Wanda with it? To them, it was an unnamed nor'easter. I think it's a poor excuse to say Wanda is fine just because the NHC assigned the name to it. The tropical portion has little to no significance as compared to the unnamed nor'easter portion which did a lot of damage and has much wider recognition. Wanda is being given too much weight here as its overall significance is minimal compared to the extratropical part. Noah^Talk 12:49, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Extremely Strong opposeThe system. Was named. WANDA! CyclonicStormYutu (talk) 14:24, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Strong oppose'''The system was given the name Wanda and it is not needed to be moved. We could separate the pages but i don't find that needed at this time or we could split its history as section being its Nor'Easter portion of its life and the other being its subtropical transition and then eventual demise [[User:HavocPlayz|HavocPlayz]] ([[User talk:HavocPlayz|talk]])  <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 12:22, 8 November 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 *'''Comment''' Does it not matter that the news agencies and people affected by the storm do not associate the name Wanda with it? To them, it was an unnamed nor'easter. I think it's a poor excuse to say Wanda is fine just because the NHC assigned the name to it. The tropical portion has little to no significance as compared to the unnamed nor'easter portion which did a lot of damage and has much wider recognition. Wanda is being given too much weight here as its overall significance is minimal compared to the extratropical part. [[User:Hurricane Noah|<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200"><b>Noah</b></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Hurricane Noah|<span style="color:#ff0000"><b>Talk</b></span>]]</sup> 12:49, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
+*'''Extremely Strong oppose'''The system. Was named. WANDA! [[User:CyclonicStormYutu|CyclonicStormYutu]] ([[User talk:CyclonicStormYutu|talk]]) 14:24, 8 November 2021 (UTC)