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The result was keep. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:52, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sardars of Vahali

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We don't have such articles unless there is significant coverage. No coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 10:11, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Happy New Year!!! ^{Babymissfortune} 10:27, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - owning land in two villages is insufficient notability.--Rpclod (talk) 12:46, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep -I'm open to changing my mind, but it appears to me that, despite there is only one source in the article at present, it is still on a notable topic. Though I don't own a copy, it appears they are also covered in "Punjab Chiefs" as well. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:21, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep I agree with Eddie's comment above, some history articles are difficult to source and may require a trip to the library or more specialized research, but it does seem like more sources can be found for this. SeraphWiki (talk) 19:02, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep for now. Really needs more sourcing. I could be convinced to go the other way if no more sources find their way to the article. Bythebooklibrary (talk) 02:04, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article has existed since June of 2012. How many more years do you think should be given for sources to find their way?--Rpclod (talk) 11:57, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sir a tad impatient? 198.84.253.202 (talk) 01:43, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

delete as with the nom, I'm not seeing significant coverage - if it hasn't shown up afer five years, it ain't gonna! BURLEY-XXII 07:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burley22 (talk • contribs) [reply]

Strong Keep What is coverage with history? This is an historical article, not a modern article, it won't have coverage in the normal sense. This tribal group worked as administrators, or Majordomos with Shah Jahan from 1666 to other king type dynasties to roughly 1947, which means the articles period covers 300 years. An immense amount of time. The article will be expanded out, in due course, with many dozens of refs. It is clearly notable, and passes WP:GNG. scope_creep (talk) 14:01, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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+The result was '''keep'''. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni|talk]]) 02:52, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * '''Delete''' - owning land in two villages is insufficient notability.--[[User:Rpclod|Rpclod]] ([[User talk:Rpclod|talk]]) 12:46, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
-*'''Weak Keep''' -I'm open to changing my mind, but it appears to me that, despite there is only one source in the article at present, it is still on a notable topic. Though I don't own a copy, it appears they are also covered in "Punjab Chiefs" as well. [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small><sup>'' [[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]</sub>'' </small> 16:21, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
+*'''Weak Keep''' -I'm open to changing my mind, but it appears to me that, despite there is only one source in the article at present, it is still on a notable topic. Though I don't own a copy, it appears they are also covered in "Punjab Chiefs" as well. [[User:Eddie891|Eddie891]] <small>''<sup> [[User talk:Eddie891|Talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Eddie891|Work]]</sub>'' </small> 16:21, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
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 *'''Weak Keep''' I agree with Eddie's comment above, some history articles are difficult to source and may require a trip to the library or more specialized research, but it does seem like more sources can be found for this. [[User:SeraphWiki|SeraphWiki]] ([[User talk:SeraphWiki|talk]]) 19:02, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 *'''Weak keep''' for now. Really needs more sourcing. I could be convinced to go the other way if no more sources find their way to the article.  [[User:Bythebooklibrary|Bythebooklibrary]] ([[User talk:Bythebooklibrary|talk]]) 02:04, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
+::The article has existed since June of 2012.  How many more years do you think should be given for sources to find their way?--[[User:Rpclod|Rpclod]] ([[User talk:Rpclod|talk]]) 11:57, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
+:::Are you sir a tad [[WP:IMPATIENT|impatient]]? [[Special:Contributions/198.84.253.202|198.84.253.202]] ([[User talk:198.84.253.202|talk]]) 01:43, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
+*'''delete''' as with the nom, I'm not seeing significant coverage - if it hasn't shown up afer five years, it ain't gonna! <b>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Burley22 BURLEY-XXII]</b> 07:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC)  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Burley22|Burley22]] ([[User talk:Burley22#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Burley22|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+*'''Strong Keep'''  What is coverage with history?  This is an historical article, not a modern article, it won't have coverage in the normal sense. This tribal group worked as administrators, or [[Majordomo]]s with [[Shah Jahan]] from 1666 to other king type dynasties to roughly 1947, which means the articles period covers 300 years. An immense amount of time. The article will be expanded out, in due course, with many dozens of refs. It is clearly notable, and passes [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Scope creep|scope_creep]] ([[User talk:Scope creep|talk]]) 14:01, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
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