Jump to content

Talk:Nushki shooting: Difference between revisions

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
Assessment (Low): +banner shell (Start), +Death, +Pakistan, +Terrorism (Rater)
 
 
(8 intermediate revisions by 5 users not shown)
Line 4: Line 4:
{{WikiProject Terrorism |importance=Low}}
{{WikiProject Terrorism |importance=Low}}
}}
}}

{{old move|date=3 July 2024|from=Nushki incident|destination=Nushki shooting|result=moved|link=Special:Permalink/1233826871#Requested move 3 July 2024}}

== Requested move 3 July 2024 ==

<div class="boilerplate mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"><!-- Template:RM top -->
:''The following is a closed discussion of a [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a [[Wikipedia:move review|move review]] after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.''

The result of the move request was: '''moved.''' Per consensus. [[User:Robertsky|– robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky|talk]]) 02:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
----

[[:Nushki incident]] → {{no redirect|Nushki shooting}} – The title should state what happened. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23CC:B4AA:2F01:8CCD:1CFF:FEBB:539F|2A00:23CC:B4AA:2F01:8CCD:1CFF:FEBB:539F]] ([[User talk:2A00:23CC:B4AA:2F01:8CCD:1CFF:FEBB:539F|talk]]) 04:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

:* Oppose per [[MOS:AT]]. None of the sources in the article call it a shooting, so neither should we. [[User:SmittenGalaxy|<span style="font-weight:bold; color:#663399; text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #dda0dd">SmittenGalaxy</span>]] <span style="font-weight:bold">&#124;</span> [[User_talk:SmittenGalaxy|<span style="font-style:italic; color:#000080">talk!</span>]] 05:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
:*:It's not clear what part of [[MOS:AT]] you are actually referring to, but while the sources all describe this as an "incident" they also make multiple mentions of the vehicle and passengers being shot. I would argue that [[WP:CRITERIA]] support this move, specifically on the basis of '''recognizability''', '''naturalness''', and '''precision'''.<small>'''''[[User:Polyamorph|Polyamorph]]''''' ([[User talk:Polyamorph#top|talk]])</small> 17:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
:*::I genuinely do not remember why I used MOS:AT instead of just [[WP:AT]], as that's probably what I meant. Either way I disagree on recognizability and precision, though I agree "shooting" would be a more natural title.
:*::Also, unrelated to this specific page move, why is the article titled with the city being called Nushki? When looking at the sources and other articles on this, many seem to refer to it as Noshki instead of Nushki, however both Noshki and Noshki District redirect to the other spelling. Is Nushki a more correct spelling, or is it just the anglicized version? [[User:SmittenGalaxy|<span style="font-weight:bold; color:#663399; text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #dda0dd">SmittenGalaxy</span>]] <span style="font-weight:bold">&#124;</span> [[User_talk:SmittenGalaxy|<span style="font-style:italic; color:#000080">talk!</span>]] 02:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per my comment above. <small>'''''[[User:Polyamorph|Polyamorph]]''''' ([[User talk:Polyamorph#top|talk]])</small> 17:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support.''' There doesn't seem to be a single [[WP:COMMONNAME]] among sources, so it makes sense to fall back on other criteria to determine the best title. To that end, the increased [[WP:PRECISION]] of "shooting" makes it preferable. [[User:ModernDayTrilobite|ModernDayTrilobite]] ([[User talk:ModernDayTrilobite|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ModernDayTrilobite|contribs]]) 18:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
<div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: #FF0000;">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div><!-- from [[Template:Archive bottom]] -->
</div><div style="clear:both;" class=></div>

=== District name ===
[[User:SmittenGalaxy|SmittenGalaxy]], first off.. edit conflict on the closure. I guess we were on the talk page at the same time. 😂 Second, on the district name in the article title here, the simplest explanation is that the location is currently at [[Nushki District]]. If you think there is a need to change name of the district to a more common name one, go ahead and move the district article (or open a discussion if you require more inputs first) and then come back and move this article accordingly. This RM closure should not restrict such a move. [[User:Robertsky|– robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky|talk]]) 03:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

:Yeah, I saw the closure literally a minute or two after posting my reply lol, didn't expect to see it pop up
:But like I said, there seems to be conflicting information on the name of the area. On the map, it's Noshki, as well as in many articles. But there's also some that say Nushki, which leads me to believe it's an anglicization of the original name. One of the sources used in this article alone even uses "Noshaki", so I'll open an RM on the [[Nushki District]] article to get an idea of what the official agreed upon name is and come back if necessary. [[User:SmittenGalaxy|<span style="font-weight:bold; color:#663399; text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #dda0dd">SmittenGalaxy</span>]] <span style="font-weight:bold">&#124;</span> [[User_talk:SmittenGalaxy|<span style="font-style:italic; color:#000080">talk!</span>]] 05:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 05:01, 11 July 2024

Requested move 3 July 2024

[edit]
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. – robertsky (talk) 02:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Nushki incidentNushki shooting – The title should state what happened. 2A00:23CC:B4AA:2F01:8CCD:1CFF:FEBB:539F (talk) 04:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose per MOS:AT. None of the sources in the article call it a shooting, so neither should we. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 05:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not clear what part of MOS:AT you are actually referring to, but while the sources all describe this as an "incident" they also make multiple mentions of the vehicle and passengers being shot. I would argue that WP:CRITERIA support this move, specifically on the basis of recognizability, naturalness, and precision.Polyamorph (talk) 17:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I genuinely do not remember why I used MOS:AT instead of just WP:AT, as that's probably what I meant. Either way I disagree on recognizability and precision, though I agree "shooting" would be a more natural title.
    Also, unrelated to this specific page move, why is the article titled with the city being called Nushki? When looking at the sources and other articles on this, many seem to refer to it as Noshki instead of Nushki, however both Noshki and Noshki District redirect to the other spelling. Is Nushki a more correct spelling, or is it just the anglicized version? SmittenGalaxy | talk! 02:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

District name

[edit]

SmittenGalaxy, first off.. edit conflict on the closure. I guess we were on the talk page at the same time. 😂 Second, on the district name in the article title here, the simplest explanation is that the location is currently at Nushki District. If you think there is a need to change name of the district to a more common name one, go ahead and move the district article (or open a discussion if you require more inputs first) and then come back and move this article accordingly. This RM closure should not restrict such a move. – robertsky (talk) 03:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I saw the closure literally a minute or two after posting my reply lol, didn't expect to see it pop up
But like I said, there seems to be conflicting information on the name of the area. On the map, it's Noshki, as well as in many articles. But there's also some that say Nushki, which leads me to believe it's an anglicization of the original name. One of the sources used in this article alone even uses "Noshaki", so I'll open an RM on the Nushki District article to get an idea of what the official agreed upon name is and come back if necessary. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 05:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]