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== "Official OWS groups" == |
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The '''99 Percent Declaration''' is a [[Politics|political]] document including a suggested list of grievances on which organizers in the [[Occupy Wall Street]] protests and the [[Occupy movement]] have been trying to get participants to vote.<ref name=99percentdeclaration>[https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/ "The 99 Percent Declaration"] [http://the99declaration.org/ ''the99declaration.org'']</ref><ref>Kennedy, A.L. (October 22, 2011) [http://wydaily.com/local-news/7558-protesters-plan-to-occupy-williamsburg.html "Protesters Plan to Occupy Williamsburg"] ''Williamsburg Yorktown Daily''</ref> It calls for a [[United States]] [[national assembly]] to support public works programs, tax hikes on the wealthiest, debt forgiveness, and ways to get money out of politics.<ref>Walsh, J. (October 20, 2011) [http://www.salon.com/2011/10/20/do_we_know_what_ows_wants_yet/singleton/ "Do we know what OWS wants yet?"] ''Salon''</ref><ref name=lopez>Lopez, L. (October 19, 2011) [http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-19/wall_street/30296890_1_jobs-crisis-immigration-status-new-jobs "Finally! The Protesters Have Drafted A Set Of Demands For The Jobs Crisis"] ''Business Insider''</ref><ref name=duda>Duda, C. (October 19, 2011) [http://jjie.org/occupy-wall-street-protesters-call-for-national-general-assembly-put-forward-possible-demands/49205 "Occupy Wall Street Protesters Call for National General Assembly, Put Forward Possible Demands"] ''Juvenile Justice Information Exchange''</ref><ref name=haack>Haack, D. (October 24, 2011) [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/24/how-occupy-movement-won-me-over "How the Occupy movement won me over"] ''The Guardian''</ref> |
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I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=99_Percent_Declaration&diff=495778466&oldid=495523679 added] a {{tl|clarify}} tag to the assertion that "the group and document have been rejected by official OWS groups" not because I wasn't certain which OWS groups it refers to (that is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=99_Percent_Declaration&diff=next&oldid=495778466 indeed clarified] further down) but because I wasn't sure about the assertion that these groups were "official" (while the group responsible for the 99% Declaration is/was presumably "unofficial"). In retrospect, {{tl|clarify}} was probably the wrong tag and I should've [[WP:BOLD|boldly]] removed the problematic word and replaced it with "other". I'm going to do that now. – [[User:Arms & Hearts|Arms & Hearts]] ([[User talk:Arms & Hearts|talk]]) 15:30, 5 June 2012 (UTC) |
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On October 15, 2011, the Occupy Wall Street Demands Working Group published the Declaration of demands, goals, and solutions.<ref name=99percentdeclaration /><ref name=duda>Duda, C. (October 19, 2011) [http://jjie.org/occupy-wall-street-protesters-call-for-national-general-assembly-put-forward-possible-demands/49205 "Occupy Wall Street Protesters Call for National General Assembly, Put Forward Possible Demands"] ''Juvenile Justice Information Exchange''</ref><ref name=lopez>Lopez, L. (October 19, 2011) [http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-19/wall_street/30296890_1_jobs-crisis-immigration-status-new-jobs "Finally! The Protesters Have Drafted A Set Of Demands For The Jobs Crisis"] ''Business Insider''</ref><ref name=haack>Haack, D. (October 24, 2011) [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/24/how-occupy-movement-won-me-over "How the Occupy movement won me over"] ''The Guardian''</ref> However, [[New York City General Assembly]] official statements are agreed upon by consensus, and not all participants agree with issuing demands.<ref name=haack>Haack, D. (October 24, 2011) [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/24/how-occupy-movement-won-me-over "How the Occupy movement won me over"] ''The Guardian''</ref><ref name=kingkade>Kingkade, T. (October 18, 2011) [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/10/18/occupy-wall-street-planning-convention_n_1018570.html "Occupy Wall Street Protesters Propose A National Convention, Release Potential Demands"] ''Huffington Post''. Retrieved 20 October 2011</ref> The Goals Working Group may produce an alternative document.<ref name=haack /> |
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:Thanks for the discussion. The other groups referred to in the article are widely understood to be the official groups representing Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Philadelphia. I've reverted your bold edit. [[User:Factchecker_atyourservice|Centrify <small>(f / k / a FCAYS)</small>]] [[User_talk:Factchecker_atyourservice|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Factchecker_atyourservice|(contribs)]] 16:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC) |
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== Suggested grievances == |
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::In which case, I'll request clarification here: what does it mean to be an "official group"? Have [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] used that terminology? – [[User:Arms & Hearts|Arms & Hearts]] ([[User talk:Arms & Hearts|talk]]) 21:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC) |
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:::I believe there are many sources that would substantiate that this specific terminology is used to describe the groups in question, but I have changed the prose to address your concern and will leave it that way until I find such sources. [[User:Factchecker_atyourservice|Centrify <small>(f / k / a FCAYS)</small>]] [[User_talk:Factchecker_atyourservice|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Factchecker_atyourservice|(contribs)]] 19:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC) |
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1. '''Elimination of the Corporate State.''' Implementing an immediate ban on all private contributions ... to all politicians in federal office, from individuals, corporations, "political action committees," "super political action committees," lobbyists, unions ... to be replaced by the fair, equal and total public financing of all federal political campaigns.... |
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== Complaint == |
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2. '''Rejection of the ''[[Citizens United]]'' Case.''' The immediate abrogation, even if it requires a constitutional amendment, of the outrageous and anti-democratic holding in the ''Citizens United'' case by the United States Supreme Court.... |
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This article has many factual errors and is out of date. The 99D has not called for a National General Assembly for months. It calls for a new Continental Congress. It does not report the election of delegates as reported on the AP nor does it tell anyone what will happen in Philadelphia. Every time I try to update the article and correct all the factual errors someone erases the changes. What's the point of Wikipedia if everything in the article is wrong and you can see it is wrong by just going to the group's webpage. At least put the AP story in: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_20839169/787-elected-occupy-conference-philly |
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3. '''Elimination of Private Contributions to Politicians'''.... |
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Here is the text of the document. Maybe you will actually read the document to make some corrections. I don't care but all these errors make Wiki look foolish especially when people read the AP articles and then go to Wikipedia |
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4. '''[[Term limits|Term Limits]].''' Members of the United States House of Representatives shall be limited to serving no more than four two-year terms in their lifetime. Members of the United States Senate shall be limited to serving no more than two six-year terms in their lifetime.... |
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5. '''A Fair Tax Code.''' A complete reformation of the United States Tax Code to require ALL citizens to pay a fair share of a [[progressive income tax|progressive]], graduated income tax by eliminating loopholes, unfair tax breaks, exemptions and deductions, subsidies (e.g. oil, gas and farm) and ending all other methods of evading taxes.... |
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! Supposed text of declaration according to IP 98.15.175.134 |
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| WHEREAS THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION PROVIDES THAT: |
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. |
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6. '''Healthcare for All.''' Medicare for all or adoption of a [[single-payer health care]] system.... |
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BE IT RESOLVED THAT WE, THE PEOPLE of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in order to form a more perfect Union, by, for and of the People, shall elect citizen Delegates between June 1-7, 2012 to attend and convene a NEW CONTINENTAL CONGRESS the week of July 4, 2012 in the City Of Philadelphia. The Delegates shall then deliberate, draft and ratify a PETITION FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES to be served upon the United States Congress, Supreme Court and President, prior to November 6, 2012. |
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7. '''Protection of the Planet.''' New comprehensive regulations to give the [[Environmental Protection Agency]] expanded powers to shut down corporations, businesses or any entities that intentionally or recklessly damage the environment, and to criminally prosecute individuals who intentionally or recklessly damage the environment. We also demand the immediate adoption of the most recent international protocols, including the "Washington Declaration" to cap carbon emissions and implement new and existing programs to transition away from [[fossil fuel]]s to reusable or [[carbon neutral]] sources of energy. |
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The People through these non-partisan locally elected Delegates shall gather to condemn and demand redress from the individuals currently in control of the United States government. We denounce and indict these entrenched public officials and lobbyists who engage in all manner of corrupt practices for money; for violating the public's trust and general welfare clause of the United States Constitution; for abandoning the precious covenant between those who govern with the consent of the People based upon an oath to protect and defend our Constitution; and for failing to govern with integrity absent all self-serving conflicts of interest. |
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8. '''Debt Reduction.''' Adoption of an immediate plan to reduce the national debt to a sustainable percentage of [[Gross domestic product|GDP]] by 2020.... |
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Wherefore, a new Continental Congress for the 21st century will ratify a Petition for Redress of Grievances which may or may not include grievances and solutions demanding: |
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9. '''Jobs for All Americans.''' Passage of a comprehensive job and job-training act like the [[American Jobs Act]] to employ our citizens in jobs that are available with specialized training and by putting People to work now by repairing America's crumbling infrastructure.... In conjunction with a new jobs act, reinstitution of the [[Works Progress Administration]] and [[Civilian Conservation Corps]] or a similar emergency governmental agency tasked with creating new public works projects |
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An End to Corporate Personhood |
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10. '''Student Loan Forgiveness.''' Implementation of a [[student loan]] debt relief forgiveness program.... |
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The Overturning of the Supreme Court's Decision in Citizens United v. F.E.C. |
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11. '''Immigration Reform.''' Immediate passage of the [[Dream Act]] and comprehensive immigration and border security reform including offering visas, lawful permanent resident status and citizenship to the world’s brightest People to stay and work in our industries and schools after they obtain their education and training in the United States. |
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The Elimination of Crony Capitalism and Washington's Revolving Door of Corruption |
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12. '''Ending of Perpetual War for Profit.''' Recalling all military personnel at all non-essential bases and refocusing national defense goals to address threats posed by the geopolitics of the 21st century, including terrorism and limiting the large scale deployment of military forces to instances where Congressional approval has been granted to counter the Military Industrial Complex's goal of perpetual war for profit.... |
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Comprehensive Banking and Securities Reform to end Wall Street's Control of our Politicians |
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13. '''Reforming Public Education.''' Mandating new educational goals to train the American public to perform jobs in a 21st century economy, particularly in the areas of technology and green energy.... Eliminating tenure and paying our teachers a competitive salary commensurate with the salaries of employees in the private sector with similar skills.... |
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100% Public Financing of Political Campaigns and Other Election Reforms |
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14. '''End Outsourcing.''' Subject to the elimination of corporate tax loopholes and exploited exemptions and deductions stated above, offering tax incentives to businesses to remain in the United States and hire our citizens rather than outsource jobs.... |
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A Freeze on Home Foreclosures |
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15. '''End Currency Manipulation.''' Implementing immediate legislation and WTO intervention if need be, to encourage China and our other trading partners to end [[currency manipulation]] and reduce the [[trade deficit]]. |
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Real Student Debt Relief and Refinancing |
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16. '''Banking and Securities Reform.''' Immediate reenactment of the [[Glass-Steagall Act]] and increased regulation of Wall Street and the financial industry by the [[Securities and Exchange Commission|SEC]], FINRA and the other financial regulators. The immediate commencement of Justice Department criminal investigations into the Securities and Banking industry practices that led to the collapse of markets, $700 billion bail-out, and financial firm failures in 2007-2008. Introduction of a small financial transaction fee to collect a tax on each and every stock trade and all other forms of financial transactions. Uniform regulations limiting what banks may charge consumers for ATM fees, the use of debit cards and other miscellaneous "fees." Ending the $4 billion a year "hedge fund loophole" which permits certain individuals engaged in financial transactions to evade graduated income tax rates by treating their income as capital gains which are taxed at a much lower rate.... |
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Ending the War in Afghanistan and Taking Care of Our Veterans |
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17. '''Foreclosure Moratorium.''' Adoption of a plan similar to President Clinton’s proposal to end the mortgage crisis. The privately owned [[Federal Reserve Bank]] shall not continue to lower interest rates for loans to banks that are refusing to loan to small businesses and consumers, but instead shall buy all underwater or foreclosed mortgages. It will refinance these debts at an interest rate of 1% or less, because that is the interest rate it charges the banks that hoard the cash rather than loan it to the People and small businesses.... |
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Medicare for All ("Single Payer Healthcare") |
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18. '''Ending the Fed.''' The immediate formation of a non-partisan commission, overseen by Congress, to audit and investigate the economic risks and possibility of eliminating the privately-owned Federal Reserve Bank and transferring its functions to the [[United States Treasury Department]].... |
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Protection of the Planet |
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19. '''Abolish the Electoral College, Comprehensive Campaign Finance and Election Reform'''.... Abolishing the [[Electoral College (United States)|electoral college]] in favor of the popular vote in presidential elections. |
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Congressional Term Limits |
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20. '''Ending the [[War in Afghanistan]].''' An immediate withdrawal of all combat troops from Afghanistan and a substantial increase in the amount of funding for veteran job training and placement.... |
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Tax Reform |
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== Constitutional amendment == |
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Harvard law professor and [[Creative Commons]] board member [[Lawrence Lessig]] had called for a [[convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution]]<ref>[http://callaconvention.org "The Movement to Organize the Call for a Convention"] ''CallAConvention.org''</ref> in a September 24-25, 2011 conference co-chaired by the [[Tea Party Patriots]]' national coordinator,<ref name=conconcon>[http://conconcon.org Conference on the Constitutional Convention], Harvard University, September 24-5, 2011</ref> in Lessig's October 5 book, ''Republic, Lost: How Money Corrupts Congress – and a Plan to Stop It,''<ref name=lessigbook>Lessig, L. (2011) [http://www.twelvebooks.com/books/republic_lost.asp ''Republic, Lost: How Money Corrupts Congress – and a Plan to Stop It''] (New York City: Hachette/Twelve) [http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/lawrence-lessig-on-how-we-lost-our-democracy-20111005 excerpt]</ref> and at the Occupy protest in Washington, DC.<ref name=occupydc>Tackett, C. (October 19, 2011) [http://www.treehugger.com/files/2011/10/could-occupy-wall-street-become-conventionists-ows.php "Could #OccupyWallStreet Become a Constitutional Convention?"] ''Discovery / TreeHugger.com''</ref> Reporter [[Dan Froomkin]] said the book offers a [[manifesto]] for the [[Occupy Wall Street]] protestors, focusing on the core problem of corruption in both political parties and their elections.<ref>Froomkin, D. (October 5, 2011) [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/lessig-new-book_n_996519.html "Lawrence Lessig's New Book On Political Corruption Offers Protesters A Possible Manifesto"] ''Huffington Post''</ref> Lessig's initial constitutional amendment would allow legislatures to limit political contributions from non-citizens, including corporations, anonymous organizations, and foreign nationals, and he also supports [[Campaign finance#Public financing|public campaign financing]] and [[electoral college]] reform to establish the [[one person, one vote]] principle.<ref>Hill, A. (October 4, 2011) [http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/10/04/am-campaign-finance-lobbying-major-roadblocks-to-effective-government/ "Campaign finance, lobbying major roadblocks to effective government"] ''Marketplace Morning Report'' (American Public Media)</ref> Lessig's web site [http://convention.idea.informer.com/ convention.idea.informer.com] allows anyone to propose and vote on constitutional amendments.<ref>Lessig, L. (2011) [http://convention.idea.informer.com/ "Propose Amendments to the Constitution"] ''convention.idea.informer.com''</ref> Similar amendments have been proposed by [[Dylan Ratigan]],<ref>Ratigan, D. (2011) [http://www.getmoneyout.com/ "It's Time to GET MONEY OUT of politics"] ''GetMoneyOut.com''</ref> [[Karl Auerbach]],<ref>Auerbach, K. (2011) [http://cavebear.com/amendment/ "Proposed Amendment to the United States Constitution To Redress the Increasing Distortion of Elections and Political Speech by Corporations and Other Aggregate Forms"] ''cavebear.com/amendment''</ref> [[Cenk Uygur]],<ref>Blumenthal, P. (October 20, 2011) [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/cenk-uygur-separate-money-and-politics_n_1023053.html "Cenk Uygur Launches New Effort To Separate Money And Politics"] ''Huffington Post''</ref> and others.<ref>Public Citizen (January 21, 2011) [http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/pressroomredirect.cfm?ID=326 "One Year Later, Movement Is Growing to Overturn Citizens United"] ''Citizen.org''</ref><ref>[[Peter M. Shane|Shane, P.M.]] (October 11, 2011) [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-m-shane/occupy-the-constitution_b_1003703.html "Occupy the Constitution"] ''Huffington Post''</ref> Some [[Occupy movement]] protesters have joined the call for a constitutional amendment.<ref name=manning>Manning, B. (October 21, 2011) [http://needham.patch.com/articles/lynch-talks-wall-street-foreign-policy "Lynch Shares Views on 'Occupy' Movement"] Needham, Mass. ''Patch''</ref><ref name=crugnale>Crugnale, J. (October 14, 2011) [http://www.mediaite.com/tv/russell-simmons-occupy-wall-st-wont-end-until-constitutional-amendments-pass/ "Russell Simmons: Occupy Wall Street Protesters Want Constitutional Amendment"] ''Mediaite''</ref><ref name=niose>Niose, D. (October 13, 2011) [http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201110/what-the-occupy-wall-street-protesters-want "What the Occupy Wall Street Protesters Want — Constitutional amendment on corporations is a starting point"] ''Psychology Today''</ref><ref>McCabe, J. (October 21, 2011) [http://www.newstimes.com/opinion/article/Dear-Occupy-Wall-Street-Move-to-Amend-the-2230414.php "Dear Occupy Wall Street: 'Move to Amend' (the Constitution)"] ''NewsTimes.com''</ref> |
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A New Jobs Program |
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== References == |
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Reforming the Federal Reserve Banking System |
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== Further reading == |
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* Lefcourt, D. (October 21, 2011) [http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Essence-Of-The-Occupy-by-Dave-Lefcourt-111021-719.html "The Essence of the Occupy Movement, 'Redress of Grievances'"] ''Op-ed news'' |
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* Benn, J. (October 2, 2011) [http://www.collegian.com/index.php/article/2011/10/occupy_protestors_make_demands_in_the99declaration "Occupy protestors make demands in The99Declaration"] ''Collegian'' |
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* Moore, T. (October 25, 2011) [http://www.cornellsun.com/section/opinion/content/2011/10/25/populists-dilemma "The Populist's Dilemma"] ''Cornell Sun'' |
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Handling Education as a National Security Issue |
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== External links == |
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* [http://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/ Website] |
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* [http://www.facebook.com/people/Ninety-Nine-Percent-Declaration/100003049781530 Facebook] |
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* [http://www.the99declaration.org www.the99declaration.org] |
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Ending Perpetual War for Profit |
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[[Category:2011 in politics]] |
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[[Category:Politics of New York]] |
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[[Category:Politics of the United States]] |
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Curtailing Outsourcing and Currency Manipulation |
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= Discussion = |
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== Notability == |
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New Protections of Civil Rights to Keep Up With Invasive Technology |
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Per [[WP:WEB]], the document has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself including such works as are listed in many of the article's references. [[User:Dualus|Dualus]] ([[User talk:Dualus|talk]]) 00:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC) |
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Curtailing the Prison Industrial Complex |
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A Plan to Reduce the Federal Debt |
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YOU MAY SEE ALL 100 OF THE PROPOSED GRIEVANCES TO BE VOTED ON BY CLICKING HERE. |
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Once signed and ratified, the Petition for Redress of Grievances drafted by the delegats will be served on the 535 members of Congress, the President and the 9 members of the Supreme Court before the 2012 general election. If these public officials ignore the petition, the delegates and all those similarly situated (i.e., 99% of the American people), will file a class action law suit in federal court seeking injunctive relief demanding redress of these grievances and asserting violations of the public trust doctrine, the general welfare clause, The Civil Righst Act, and for past and ongoing abuses of government power under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. See the full plan here. |
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<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.15.175.134|98.15.175.134]] ([[User talk:98.15.175.134|talk]]) 02:23, 23 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Hi. These complaints have all been expressed and addressed before; please see the talk page archives. In a nutshell, Wikipedia articles are generally based off of reliable sources. They are not extensions of your group's webpage and you do not have the right to control what is said in the article. Among other things, this means the article must be written in an encyclopedic tone; it is not an advocacy page and should not use random protest rhetoric or lingo such as "Continental Congress 2.0" as if these words were in common parlance. You also can't edit the article so that it contradicts the sources it cites, even if you think those sources are wrong. I'm sorry if you feel that your group is not being given enough attention by the mainstream, or if you feel your group is misunderstood by the mainstream. Unfortunately, Wikipedia is not the place to correct this. |
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:On one specific point, you seem to suggest that something in the WP article is contradicted by the AP article you linked above. But I don't see any contradiction. Could you be more specific? [[User:Factchecker_atyourservice|Centrify <small>(f / k / a FCAYS)</small>]] [[User_talk:Factchecker_atyourservice|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Factchecker_atyourservice|(contribs)]] 19:16, 25 June 2012 (UTC) |
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::And the link provided is dead now...--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 07:38, 20 December 2012 (UTC) |
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== Suggestions from an editor with a [[WP:COI]] == |
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Please see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AContinental_Congress_2.0&diff=569248167&oldid=503700470 these edits] to the [[Continental Congress 2.0]] talk page. [[User:David in DC|David in DC]] ([[User talk:David in DC|talk]]) 15:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC) |
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== External links modified == |
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"Official OWS groups"
[edit]I added a {{clarify}} tag to the assertion that "the group and document have been rejected by official OWS groups" not because I wasn't certain which OWS groups it refers to (that is indeed clarified further down) but because I wasn't sure about the assertion that these groups were "official" (while the group responsible for the 99% Declaration is/was presumably "unofficial"). In retrospect, {{clarify}} was probably the wrong tag and I should've boldly removed the problematic word and replaced it with "other". I'm going to do that now. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the discussion. The other groups referred to in the article are widely understood to be the official groups representing Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Philadelphia. I've reverted your bold edit. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 16:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
- In which case, I'll request clarification here: what does it mean to be an "official group"? Have reliable sources used that terminology? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
- I believe there are many sources that would substantiate that this specific terminology is used to describe the groups in question, but I have changed the prose to address your concern and will leave it that way until I find such sources. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 19:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
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[edit]This article has many factual errors and is out of date. The 99D has not called for a National General Assembly for months. It calls for a new Continental Congress. It does not report the election of delegates as reported on the AP nor does it tell anyone what will happen in Philadelphia. Every time I try to update the article and correct all the factual errors someone erases the changes. What's the point of Wikipedia if everything in the article is wrong and you can see it is wrong by just going to the group's webpage. At least put the AP story in: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_20839169/787-elected-occupy-conference-philly
Here is the text of the document. Maybe you will actually read the document to make some corrections. I don't care but all these errors make Wiki look foolish especially when people read the AP articles and then go to Wikipedia
Supposed text of declaration according to IP 98.15.175.134 |
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WHEREAS THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION PROVIDES THAT:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. BE IT RESOLVED THAT WE, THE PEOPLE of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in order to form a more perfect Union, by, for and of the People, shall elect citizen Delegates between June 1-7, 2012 to attend and convene a NEW CONTINENTAL CONGRESS the week of July 4, 2012 in the City Of Philadelphia. The Delegates shall then deliberate, draft and ratify a PETITION FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES to be served upon the United States Congress, Supreme Court and President, prior to November 6, 2012. The People through these non-partisan locally elected Delegates shall gather to condemn and demand redress from the individuals currently in control of the United States government. We denounce and indict these entrenched public officials and lobbyists who engage in all manner of corrupt practices for money; for violating the public's trust and general welfare clause of the United States Constitution; for abandoning the precious covenant between those who govern with the consent of the People based upon an oath to protect and defend our Constitution; and for failing to govern with integrity absent all self-serving conflicts of interest. Wherefore, a new Continental Congress for the 21st century will ratify a Petition for Redress of Grievances which may or may not include grievances and solutions demanding: An End to Corporate Personhood The Overturning of the Supreme Court's Decision in Citizens United v. F.E.C. The Elimination of Crony Capitalism and Washington's Revolving Door of Corruption Comprehensive Banking and Securities Reform to end Wall Street's Control of our Politicians 100% Public Financing of Political Campaigns and Other Election Reforms A Freeze on Home Foreclosures Real Student Debt Relief and Refinancing Ending the War in Afghanistan and Taking Care of Our Veterans Medicare for All ("Single Payer Healthcare") Protection of the Planet Congressional Term Limits Tax Reform A New Jobs Program Reforming the Federal Reserve Banking System Handling Education as a National Security Issue Ending Perpetual War for Profit Curtailing Outsourcing and Currency Manipulation New Protections of Civil Rights to Keep Up With Invasive Technology Curtailing the Prison Industrial Complex A Plan to Reduce the Federal Debt YOU MAY SEE ALL 100 OF THE PROPOSED GRIEVANCES TO BE VOTED ON BY CLICKING HERE. Once signed and ratified, the Petition for Redress of Grievances drafted by the delegats will be served on the 535 members of Congress, the President and the 9 members of the Supreme Court before the 2012 general election. If these public officials ignore the petition, the delegates and all those similarly situated (i.e., 99% of the American people), will file a class action law suit in federal court seeking injunctive relief demanding redress of these grievances and asserting violations of the public trust doctrine, the general welfare clause, The Civil Righst Act, and for past and ongoing abuses of government power under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. See the full plan here. |
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.15.175.134 (talk) 02:23, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. These complaints have all been expressed and addressed before; please see the talk page archives. In a nutshell, Wikipedia articles are generally based off of reliable sources. They are not extensions of your group's webpage and you do not have the right to control what is said in the article. Among other things, this means the article must be written in an encyclopedic tone; it is not an advocacy page and should not use random protest rhetoric or lingo such as "Continental Congress 2.0" as if these words were in common parlance. You also can't edit the article so that it contradicts the sources it cites, even if you think those sources are wrong. I'm sorry if you feel that your group is not being given enough attention by the mainstream, or if you feel your group is misunderstood by the mainstream. Unfortunately, Wikipedia is not the place to correct this.
- On one specific point, you seem to suggest that something in the WP article is contradicted by the AP article you linked above. But I don't see any contradiction. Could you be more specific? Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 19:16, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- And the link provided is dead now...--Amadscientist (talk) 07:38, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Please see these edits to the Continental Congress 2.0 talk page. David in DC (talk) 15:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
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