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Why no terminal 4?

Why doesn't this airport have terminal 4? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clrichey (talk • contribs) 01:43, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pax to NY?

The article says New York isn't in the top 10 domestic destinations from O'Hare. Think that's true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.154.246.155 (talk) 20:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alaska Airlines Destinations

Alaska Airlines hasn't flown nonstop to Los Angeles in over a year... Please remove that destination from the list. Kmohammed33 (talk) 01:46, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add airline terminal assignments?

The O'Hare terminal assignments are listed on the airport's official printable maps, so I think they should be included in the article. Something to the effect of this:

Terminal 1 is used for United Airlines flights, as well as international departures by Lufthansa and All Nippon Airways. It contains 50 gates on two concourses, lettered B–C.^[1]
Terminal 2 is used for United Express, Air Canada, Alaska Airlines, and JetBlue flights. It contains 41 gates on two concourses, lettered E–F.^[1]
Terminal 3 is used for American Airlines, American Eagle, and Spirit Airlines flights, as well as international departures for Iberia and Japan Airlines. It contains 79 gates on four concourses, lettered G, H, K, and L.^[1]
Terminal 5 contains 40 gates on one concourse, lettered M, and is the airport's international terminal. All non pre–cleared international flights deplane here as it currently contains the airport's sole U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility.^[2] Most international airlines that serve O'Hare use this terminal for departures save for a limited number that utilize Terminals 1-3, and the terminal also is used by Delta Air Lines, Frontier Airlines and Southwest Airlines for domestic flights.^[3]^[4]^[5]

DReifGalaxyM31 (talk) 04:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c Cite error: The named reference ORDMap was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ "International Traveler - O'Hare Airport". Archived from the original on April 17, 2021. Retrieved 19 March 2021.
^ "Chicago Department of Aviation Completes First Phase of O'Hare Gate Renumbering at Terminal 5" (Press release). Chicago: Office of Emergency Management and Communications.
^ ORD Common Gate Use Information (PDF) (Report). Chicago: Chicago Department of Aviation.
^ "Delta Air Lines Plans Terminal 5 Move At Chicago O'Hare". Retrieved 13 January 2023.

Bensenville eviction controversy

In 2007-2010, families from more than 1000 homes in Bensenville, Il. were forced to sell their homes after the Chicago authorities condemned all properties in the entire municipality after invoking eminent domain in order to gain the land for the O'Hare Modernization Project. I think this needs to be added to the article.

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/as-ohare-expanded-time-lapse-shows-demise-of-bensenville-neighborhood/

Thoughts? 41.10.79.97 (talk) 10:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[ORDMap-1] Cite error: The named reference ORDMap was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[2] "International Traveler - O'Hare Airport". Archived from the original on April 17, 2021. Retrieved 19 March 2021.

[3] "Chicago Department of Aviation Completes First Phase of O'Hare Gate Renumbering at Terminal 5" (Press release). Chicago: Office of Emergency Management and Communications.

[4] ORD Common Gate Use Information (PDF) (Report). Chicago: Chicago Department of Aviation.

[5] "Delta Air Lines Plans Terminal 5 Move At Chicago O'Hare". Retrieved 13 January 2023.

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+== Why no terminal 4? ==
-==Class change==
-Some very kind person(s) at WikiProject Aviation/Airports raised their ranking of this article to B class.  I took the liberty, based on that, to raise the page's ranking on WikiProject Illinois to B, since that project is listed as semi-active.  I'll submit to WikiProject Chicago for assessment.   [[User:Chidino|Chidino]] ([[User talk:Chidino|talk]]) 19:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
+Why doesn't this airport have terminal 4?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Clrichey|Clrichey]] ([[User talk:Clrichey#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clrichey|contribs]]) 01:43, 27 November 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-== B rating ==
+== Pax to NY? ==
-{{u|Chidino}}, I am having trouble giving this a B rating. I don't feel the [[WP:LEAD]] is really a summary of the article.  If the LEAD is not decent, I can't support B. The LEAD seems to have all kinds of facts that are not even in the article rather than summarize it.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]] / [[WP:FOUR]] / [[WP:CHICAGO]] / [[WP:WAWARD]])</small> 04:36, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
+The article says New York isn't in the top 10 domestic destinations from O'Hare. Think that's true?  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/205.154.246.155|205.154.246.155]] ([[User talk:205.154.246.155#top|talk]]) 20:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-: Thanks for the feedback.  I was imitating various airport articles, rather than following Wikipedia standards for [[WP:LEAD]].  I'll keep working on it.  [[User:Chidino|Chidino]] ([[User talk:Chidino|talk]]) 06:12, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
+== Alaska Airlines Destinations ==
-: I've adjusted the LEAD to be a very brief summary of some of the highlights.  [[User:Chidino|Chidino]] ([[User talk:Chidino|talk]]) 08:09, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
-::Please make sure that you include a summary of each major section in the LEAD.-[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]] / [[WP:FOUR]] / [[WP:CHICAGO]] / [[WP:WAWARD]])</small> 11:39, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
-::At the very least, every paragraph should have at least one [[WP:IC]] from a [[WP:RS]].--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]] / [[WP:FOUR]] / [[WP:CHICAGO]] / [[WP:WAWARD]])</small> 11:35, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
-:::Better?  (I haven't written a LEAD before, so I appreciate your help.  I have been following the standards and trying to adapt them here, and any feedback would be great.) [[User:Chidino|Chidino]] ([[User talk:Chidino|talk]]) 02:20, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
-::::The "Airlines and destinations" and "Statistics" sections remain as sectionz without prose. Each section should have well-cited prose. That prose should be summarized in the LEAD. The "Cargo" section has substantial prose and remains unsummarized in the LEAD. You will either need to reorganize the article or rework the LEAD. I am not a big fan of the current summary of the Terminals section. N. B.: In the end the LEAD will have to be 3 or 4 paragraphs (4 is the max for a quality LEAD). I remain concerned that many paragraphs are without ICs from RS.-[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]] / [[WP:FOUR]] / [[WP:CHICAGO]] / [[WP:WAWARD]])</small> 04:51, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
+Alaska Airlines hasn't flown nonstop to Los Angeles in over a year... Please remove that destination from the list. [[User:Kmohammed33|Kmohammed33]] ([[User talk:Kmohammed33|talk]]) 01:46, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
-I understand your concerns.  I suspect this is one of the moments Wikipedia policy (well-established) wells up against an effective entrance.  While I do not have any experience as a Wikipedia editor, I do know how to write a good, summarizing entry (and for an airport as complex as O'Hare, this is a DAMN good entry -- something you did not note).  While Wiki's insistence on every section having equal weight in the opening, that means editing content to give equal weight to less pertinent facts. Especially with an airport, we could get caught up with statistics ad nauseum.  Please tell me how to write a more meaningful entry of five paragraphs that will serve a purpose to someone 10 minutes out from landing at O'Hare.  Who is Wikipedia serving here?  I am not asking for reconsideration of B status -- I think that is appropriate.  I wonder what devil we are serving when policy is more important than relevancy.
+== Add airline terminal assignments? ==
-AND no answer summarizes my criticism -- after almost a year.  What, precisely, holds you in grand respect and dismisses my views? Are you more valid than me?
+The O'Hare terminal assignments are listed on the airport's official printable maps, so I think they should be included in the article. Something to the effect of this:
-== Architectural recognition of Terminal 1 (Jahn) ==
+*'''Terminal 1''' is used for [[United Airlines]] flights, as well as international departures by [[Lufthansa]] and [[All Nippon Airways]]. It contains 50 gates on two concourses, lettered B–C.<ref name="ORDMap" />
-@Magnolia677
+*'''Terminal 2''' is used for [[United Express]], [[Air Canada]], [[Alaska Airlines]], and [[JetBlue]] flights. It contains 41 gates on two concourses, lettered E–F.<ref name="ORDMap" />
-In respect to Undid revision 852864104 by Funarchitect How is being one out of 200 notable? Please discuss.
+*'''Terminal 3''' is used for [[American Airlines]], [[American Eagle (airline brand)|American Eagle]], and [[Spirit Airlines]] flights, as well as international departures for [[Iberia (airline)|Iberia]] and [[Japan Airlines]]. It contains 79 gates on four concourses, lettered G, H, K, and L.<ref name="ORDMap" />
+*'''Terminal 5''' contains 40 gates on one concourse, lettered M, and is the airport's international terminal. All non pre–cleared international flights deplane here as it currently contains the airport's sole [[U.S. Customs and Border Protection]] facility.<ref>{{cite web |title=International Traveler - O'Hare Airport |url=https://www.flychicago.com/ohare/myflight/international/pages/default.aspx |access-date=19 March 2021 |archive-date=April 17, 2021 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210417183650/https://www.flychicago.com/ohare/myflight/international/pages/default.aspx |url-status=live }}</ref> Most international airlines that serve O'Hare use this terminal for departures save for a limited number that utilize Terminals 1-3, and the terminal also is used by [[Delta Air Lines]], [[Frontier Airlines]] and [[Southwest Airlines]] for domestic flights.<ref>{{cite press release | url=https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/doa/provdrs/dbata/news/2022/april/april62022.html | title=Chicago Department of Aviation Completes First Phase of O'Hare Gate Renumbering at Terminal 5|publisher=Office of Emergency Management and Communications|location=Chicago}}</ref><ref>{{cite report|url=https://www.igcinc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/ORD-Common-Use-Stand-Info-Mar-27-2022-thru-Oct-29-2022-DRAFT-2021-0907.pdf|title=ORD Common Gate Use Information|publisher=Chicago Department of Aviation|location=Chicago}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |title=Delta Air Lines Plans Terminal 5 Move At Chicago O'Hare|url=https://simpleflying.com/delta-air-lines-terminal-5-move-chicago-o-hare/ |access-date=13 January 2023}}</ref>
-Would the following be more acceptable?
+[[User:DReifGalaxyM31|DReifGalaxyM31]] ([[User talk:DReifGalaxyM31|talk]]) 04:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- In celebration of the 2018 Illinois Bicentennial, more than 3500 licensed Architects from throughout Illinois were asked to select the State's 200 most important architectural places, dating from the earliest prehistoric settlements to the most modern designs and structures; based on its unique spaces with their "splendid sense of light, and of lightness", <ref>{{cite news|last=Goldberger|first=Paul|title=ARCHITECTURE VIEW; AN AIR TERMINAL INSPIRED BY THE TRAIN STATION|url=https://www.nytimes.com/1987/08/23/arts/architecture-view-an-air-terminal-inspired-by-the-train-station.htm/|accessdate=23 August 2018|newspaper=New York Times|date=August 23, 1987}}</ref> the United Airlines Terminal at O’Hare was selected as one of these Illinois 200 Great Places <ref>{{cite news|last=Waldinger|first=Mike|title=The proud history of architecture in Illinois|url=https://springfieldbusinessjournal.com/2018/01/the-proud-history-of-architecture-in-illinois/|accessdate=30 January 2018|newspaper=Springfield Business Journal|date=January 30, 2018}}</ref> by the [[American Institute of Architects]] Illinois component (AIA Illinois).
---[[User:Funarchitect|Funarchitect]] ([[User talk:Funarchitect|talk]]) 20:25, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
-@Funarchitect As a contributor to this page that has struggled to help provide a consistent voice, I hope you don't mind my chiming in.
-I believe this is an excessive amount of detail that doesn't serve O'Hare well.  (As trivial as it sounds, if you boost the Terminal 1 coverage, an equal amount dedicated to Terminal 3 will magically appear.)  This section, in particular, is dealing with the progress of the airport in the 1980s.  Current architectural recognition, right before returning to construction on Terminal 3 in the 1980s, is abrupt and IMO misplaced in this section.
-Further, I sincerely do not mean offense to AIA Illinois or to you, but this is, at best, trivial praise.  "One of 200", as @Magnolia677 pointed out?  And why is this list any more important than, say, the [[Chicago Architecture Foundation|CAF]]'s?  In an effort to provide context, a quick Google search turned up the AIA (''in toto'') naming it "one of the best ten works of American architecture completed since 1980."  That exceedingly impressive award isn't in there (maybe should be), but none of the architectural awards it, Terminal 5, and the CTA station have racked up are listed, simply because we're always struggling to keep this an introductory article and not meant to function as the Encyclopedia of O'Hare.
-[[User:Chidino|Chidino]] ([[User talk:Chidino|talk]]) 06:48, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
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+== Bensenville eviction controversy ==
-== Get rid of United Express in destination table? ==
+In 2007-2010, families from more than 1000 homes in Bensenville, Il. were forced to sell their homes after the Chicago authorities condemned all properties in the entire municipality after invoking eminent domain in order to gain the land for the O'Hare Modernization Project. I think this needs to be added to the article.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports/Archive_17#Potential_Major_Change_to_WP:Airports:_Removing_Regional_Carrier_Listings_from_Airport_Articles
+https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/as-ohare-expanded-time-lapse-shows-demise-of-bensenville-neighborhood/
-I believe this settled the matter. However, there is one editor, '''unnamed''' for now, that, if we listen to him/her, United Express in the destination table of this article would be merged with United Airlines. If that happens, you won't know if an airport/city is served by United or United Express specifically. (That editor wants to do it on another airport but, if we listen to him, O'Hare could be in danger) I bring it up because many wise editors read O'Hare but few read smaller airport articles.
-Should this change be made? (wipe out United Express)[[User:Aerostar3|Aerostar3]] ([[User talk:Aerostar3|talk]]) 06:09, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
+Thoughts? [[Special:Contributions/41.10.79.97|41.10.79.97]] ([[User talk:41.10.79.97|talk]]) 10:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
-::After more than a week of assessing for opinions, I will test edit the United Express table to see how it looks like. Also see the RFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports#RFC_Destinations%3A_United_Express_and_United%2C_like_it_currently_is%2C_or_no_standard_way_is_ok [[User:Aerostar3|Aerostar3]] ([[User talk:Aerostar3|talk]]) 03:31, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
-There has been no change in Wikipedia policy.  You (Rubber Ducky/Aerostar3/Blissfield101, allegedly) are performing edits while referring to an RfC that "received" 16 votes, of which 9 supported the position.  This is hardly a consensus; the most important thing is to broaden the scope of respondents to determine, if possible, what method works best for the average reader.  Isn't that what is most important?  I understand you have a position on this, but you have not convinced the rest of the editors, and this is a community.  [[User:Chidino|Chidino]] ([[User talk:Chidino|talk]]) 06:14, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
-== "Ohare" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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-A discussion is taking place to address the redirect [[:Ohare]]. The discussion will occur at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 1#Ohare]] until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Conifer|<span style="color:forestgreen;font-family:Georgia,serif">'''Conifer'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Conifer|<span style="color:forestgreen;font-family:Georgia,serif">'''talk'''</span>]]) 21:22, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
-== A notable fact ==
-O'Hare currently has the most number of runways of any civilian airport. While I added this fact in the article, I was considering working it into the introduction. I feel like it's a pretty notable fact to include in the lead. Thoughts? [[User:Apoorv Chauhan|Apoorv Chauhan]] ([[User talk:Apoorv Chauhan|talk]]) 08:38, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
-== Why no terminal 4? ==
-Why doesn't this airport have terminal 4?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Clrichey|Clrichey]] ([[User talk:Clrichey#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clrichey|contribs]]) 01:43, 27 November 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-== Pax to NY? ==
-The article says New York isn't in the top 10 domestic destinations from O'Hare. Think that's true?  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/205.154.246.155|205.154.246.155]] ([[User talk:205.154.246.155#top|talk]]) 20:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->